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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X

Tsukiyomi91 said:
Never call a dead-end platform "affordable" when AM5 is coming. Sure, it's $5 more expensive than the 12600K but the Alder Lake chip does everything else a lot better while maintaining much higher all-core boost clocks than the 5700X. Also, power consumption is not so relevant when you're seeking for consistent performance.
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Never call a new platform proven.
 
Chomiq said:
Or maybe you should stop making it about yourself and think about the fact that @W1zzard just became a father and has other things on his mind.
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What is that suppose to mean? Everyone have issues with their life but the job is the job and because your private life becomes busier, I understand that one have to make choices, but doing "sloppy" work shouldn't be one of them.
Sorry but I'll make it "about me" when someone directly replies to me.
By any means I'm NOT "mad" at @W1zzard at all, just a little disappointed because I believe that the previous equivalent SKU of a piece of hardware should be included (if possible/available) when making a review.
 
PanicLake said:
By any means I'm NOT "mad" at @W1zzard at all, just a little disappointed because I believe that the previous equivalent SKU of a piece of hardware should be included (if possible/available) when making a review.
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No worries, I agree with you, and it should be included. As I said, I'll be rebenching everything in a couple weeks, so doesn't make a lot of sense to spend a few hours testing something just to test it again for a few hours soon, especially when I have like 0 time for anything
 
W1zzard said:
No worries, I agree with you, and it should be included. As I said, I'll be rebenching everything in a couple weeks, so doesn't make a lot of sense to spend a few hours testing something just to test it again for a few hours soon, especially when I have like 0 time for anything
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Yeah, everywhere you look, inflation. Yet we still don't have a 30-36h day :(
 
i don't believe we'll see reco prices tho... so, "affordable", but not so affordable as it could or should be.


Udyr said:
*Ryzen 7 5800X offers better price/performance for $10 more.

The 5800X runs hotter, though.
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not so hot as every ryzen 9.

Footman said:
Law of diminishing returns.

AMD is off on their pricing. 5600 more expensive than the 5600X and the 5700X $10 cheaper than the 5800X!!!

I bought the 5600X when it was released at full MSRP, upgrading from the 2600X and have not regretted it. I just don't see much value in spending more on an 8 core cpu. The new Intel lineup looks strong, but the value that AMD brought with their AM4 platform makes it cheap and easy to swap out the cpu when I need a boost. I am sad that AMD are ending AM4 platform. I had fun with my 1700x->2600x->5600x
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why have you switched 1700X to 2600X? same goes to people who changed 2700X to 3600(X/XT). LMFAO. there is no BIG performance gap between these cpus. and you people change 8 cores to 6 cores. it's same thing that some id...s tell me new i3-12100F is same good as mine i5-11400F, whether tests proof that poor i3 will choke in heavy load. same goes here, i owned r5 2600, r5 2700 and r5 3600. there weren't magic and 3600 wasn't better than 2700. i just got two of them both, not upgrading 2700 to 3600 tho, lol
 
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Price has now dropped to $236 for the 5700X while the 5800X remains at $289. I wonder what this does now to the performance/dollar graph.

At $236 this 8 core cpu appears to be a good deal. Thoughts? I'm planning to upgrade my 3600....
 
Footman said:
Price has now dropped to $236 for the 5700X while the 5800X remains at $289. I wonder what this does now to the performance/dollar graph.

At $236 this 8 core cpu appears to be a good deal. Thoughts? I'm planning to upgrade my 3600....
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For $236 just buy this one and don't look back. Especially if your motherboard is on the nicer side.
 
Footman said:
Price has now dropped to $236 for the 5700X while the 5800X remains at $289. I wonder what this does now to the performance/dollar graph.

At $236 this 8 core cpu appears to be a good deal. Thoughts? I'm planning to upgrade my 3600....
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Footman said:
Price has now dropped to $236 for the 5700X while the 5800X remains at $289. I wonder what this does now to the performance/dollar graph.

At $236 this 8 core cpu appears to be a good deal. Thoughts? I'm planning to upgrade my 3600....
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I got my 5700x for $239 like over a month ago new from Amazon. I've seen the prices for a while wondering if I made the right choice. With that said I am happy with my purchase. It runs cool its fast and with my current configuration. I couldn't be happier with my decision.
 
I didn't realise until I installed one of these for a client yesterday


Seeing the 30C difference from stock 5700x to stock 5800x on the temps page?
Yeah. It's actually like that in reality.

Having a 5700x run 25C idle and 55C load on a be quiet AIO was eye-opening, compared to my 5800x that just says "Hi. I like 75C, so i'll live there"
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Yeah, the lower TDP makes things so much nicer in the temp front. I've tried the 5950X in eco mode too, the temperatures are much lower. You could probably run it passive with a nice heatsink. :)
 
Mussels said:
I didn't realise until I installed one of these for a client yesterday


Seeing the 30C difference from stock 5700x to stock 5800x on the temps page?
Yeah. It's actually like that in reality.

Having a 5700x run 25C idle and 55C load on a be quiet AIO was eye-opening, compared to my 5800x that just says "Hi. I like 75C, so i'll live there"
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See another reason I am so happy with my purchase of the 5700x vs the 5800x.
 
Is this a compelling buy at $211? It's on sale at Amazon today. Can't make a decision. I really am thinking about upgrading my son's PC which has a 2600x, B450 mobo and 5700XT gpu. He games at 1080p and has a 144hz monitor. The 5600 is $159 on Amazon, so cheaper still. Not a great deal of difference in gaming performance, but would the 8 core be the better buy for extra $50.....

Thoughts?
 
Footman said:
Is this a compelling buy at $211? It's on sale at Amazon today. Can't make a decision. I really am thinking about upgrading my son's PC which has a 2600x, B450 mobo and 5700XT gpu. He games at 1080p and has a 144hz monitor. The 5600 is $159 on Amazon, so cheaper still. Not a great deal of difference in gaming performance, but would the 8 core be the better buy for extra $50.....

Thoughts?
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"Yes"
 
@Mussels so you are suggesting that I purchase the 5700x at $212?
 
Footman said:
so you are suggesting that I purchase the 5700x at $212?
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If you're doing it to replace the 5600X, then no. If you're upgrading the 2600x, then yes.
 
Footman said:
@Mussels so you are suggesting that I purchase the 5700x at $212?
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You'll be damned happy with it

95% the performance of the best Zen3, with low wattages and temps. It'll never strain a motherboards VRM's and never thermal throttle, while it's also good for high FPS/refresh rate gameplay AND multi threaded gameplay

Udyr said:
If you're doing it to replace the 5600X, then no. If you're upgrading the 2600x, then yes.
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Faster than me, but yes - this

3700x to 5800x was a huge FPS leap for me on a mere GTX1080, a 2600x to 5700x is an insane jump in gaming performance... on a 6700xt? Yeah, that'll be big
 
@Mussels I'll tell my wife you said it was ok to upgrade the CPU
 
Footman said:
@Mussels I'll tell my wife you said it was ok to upgrade the CPU
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I'm here for you if you need help in the divorce


I mean, you could be getting 50% gains in some titles - it's not a small upgrade

The 3300X is slightly faster than a 2700x on average, from the 3300x review:
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And then from this review (With an example of a game that is CPU limited)

Is 100FPS Unplayable? Nope!
Is 150FPS from the same GPU heaps better? HELL. YES.
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@Mussels Haha.
So tempted. Perhaps I'll replace my 5600x with the 5700x and give my 5600x to my son to replace his 2600X...

I game at 2560, so I doubt I'll see any difference in fps with the 5700x and my 6700XT. My son will have a significant uplift with the 5600X.

I could just be cheap and keep my 5600X, buy my son an even cheaper 5600 and wait for next gen CPU...
 
Footman said:
@Mussels Haha.
So tempted. Perhaps I'll replace my 5600x with the 5700x and give my 5600x to my son to replace his 2600X...

I game at 2560, so I doubt I'll see any difference in fps with the 5700x and my 6700XT. My son will have a significant uplift with the 5600X.

I could just be cheap and keep my 5600X, buy my son an even cheaper 5600 and wait for next gen CPU...
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To be fair, you might see difference. I saw huge difference when I moved from 2700x to 5800x and I play 4k. even at 4k in some cases huge difference (Euro Truck Sim huge difference) The only thing is I have 6900xt. Your son might see a difference though with his 2600x upgrade. That all depends also on the GPU you are using. Your 6700xt might see a difference.
 
ratirt said:
To be fair, you might see difference. I saw huge difference when I moved from 2700x to 5800x and I play 4k. even at 4k in some cases huge difference (Euro Truck Sim huge difference) The only thing is I have 6900xt. Your son might see a difference though with his 2600x upgrade. That all depends also on the GPU you are using. Your 6700xt might see a difference.
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I use DLAA and play at 4k140, or DLSS and play at 4k210 (2x/3x my refresh rate with fast Vsync)
My 3700x couldnt pass ~110FPS in the same titles i can pass 200 in - although the 1080 cant use DLSS, so the CPU limit isn't really an issue for me on that rig
 
Mussels said:
I use DLAA and play at 4k140, or DLSS and play at 4k210 (2x/3x my refresh rate with fast Vsync)
My 3700x couldnt pass ~110FPS in the same titles i can pass 200 in - although the 1080 cant use DLSS, so the CPU limit isn't really an issue for me on that rig
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With Euro truck sim, with my 2700x everything was improved. Mostly what I've noticed is the minimums where doubled. with 2700x i could see dips to 40-50FPS in some cases. Now I have it locked at 100FPS all the time with my 5800x. All this is at 4k.
For me, the move to 144hz was enough and I sincerely don't need any more FPS since it will change nothing for me. Also, It depends what game I play actually when I use the 144fps. mostly a 100 or 60 is enough with the games I play. I could use FSR but I'm not sure if the games I play have it. CP2077 has I suppose. Havent played for a while though.
 
ratirt said:
With Euro truck sim, with my 2700x everything was improved. Mostly what I've noticed is the minimums where doubled. with 2700x i could see dips to 40-50FPS in some cases. Now I have it locked at 100FPS all the time with my 5800x. All this is at 4k.
For me, the move to 144hz was enough and I sincerely don't need any more FPS since it will change nothing for me. Also, It depends what game I play actually when I use the 144fps. mostly a 100 or 60 is enough with the games I play. I could use FSR but I'm not sure if the games I play have it. CP2077 has I suppose. Havent played for a while though.
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Yeah, that's a good way to explain it.

I've got a friend with a ryzen 1400 buying my 2700x, he only plays LoL - he cant understand why he gets 144FPS at the start of a match but ~60 at the end, he kept upgrading GPU's but doesn't understand that the CPU has work to do as well.

50% usage to him said the CPU had room to spare, until i explained SMT to him
 
OK, just to give you guys a heads up (cos that's just the way I roll), the 5700X is now only $199 at Newegg!!!! Use code FTSBXAZ44 to get extra $10 off. What a deal..... I am now sleeping on the sofa, thanks @Mussels

Damn, they also have the Ryzen 5600 for $129!!!
 
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