• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition

64K

Joined
Mar 13, 2014
Messages
6,190 (1.66/day)
Processor i7 7700k
Motherboard MSI Z270 SLI Plus
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2070 Super
Storage Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB and WD Black 4TB
Display(s) Dell 27 inch 1440p 144 Hz
Case Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA SuperNova 850 W Gold
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Logitech G105
Software Windows 10
This GPU is a beast. Very impressive.
Good job Nvidia!
 

Easy Rhino

Linux Advocate
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2006
Messages
15,459 (2.42/day)
Location
Mid-Atlantic
System Name Desktop
Processor i5 13600KF
Motherboard AsRock B760M Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling Noctua NH-U9S
Memory 4x 16 Gb Gskill S5 DDR5 @6000
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Gaming OC 6750 XT 12GB
Storage WD_BLACK 4TB SN850x
Display(s) Gigabye M32U
Case Corsair Carbide 400C
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 650 P2
Mouse MX Master 3s
Keyboard Logitech G915 Wireless Clicky
Software The Matrix
Wow, all of those rehashed AAA titles like MW2 and all of those botched AAA titles like Cyber Punk that are unplayable will look amazing.
 
Joined
Apr 13, 2022
Messages
1,001 (1.31/day)
I wonder why you didn't ask the most important question!! Will it blend! Then it hit me you can't fit this thing in a blender.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
16,453 (4.70/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D -30 uv
Motherboard AsRock Steel Legend B650
Cooling MSI C360 AIO
Memory 32gb 6000 CL 30-36-36-76
Video Card(s) MERC310 7900 XT -60 uv +150 core
Display(s) NZXT Canvas IPS 1440p 165hz 27"
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black)
Audio Device(s) HD58X, Asgard 2, Modi 3
Power Supply Corsair RM850W
Impressed by the performance watt, better than I expected, the dlss3 however does not convince me, excellent performance but low quality for now.

The real problem remains the price, no perf / cost increase and the size, too big.


DLSS3 is vaporware, maybe we will see in 5 games working properly 6 months from now. Physx flashbacks all over again.


also, jayz2cents review:

If I can get a 3090 or 3090 ti for like $899-999 range, I may just do that. i could care less about ray tracing. but I am waiting on rdna3 first. I have a feeling the chiplet design is going to kick Nvidia's ass (not in ray tracing, but in everything else)

1665495945050.png
 
Joined
Oct 6, 2021
Messages
1,485 (1.55/day)
I'm only using a small subset of Heaven, the most demanding area. I've seen it do over 500 FPS in that scene, so not completely CPU limited.
I'll still look into a better test though, but that invalidates all previous data, so lots of retesting will be needed


Will upgrade CPU later this year. I just spent two weeks in summer retesting on the current 5800X. Due to so many cards, games and resolutions I can't just switch easily
Would it be possible to test just the 4090 with a stronger CPU for comparison purposes?
 
Joined
Feb 6, 2021
Messages
19 (0.02/day)
I'm only using a small subset of Heaven, the most demanding area. I've seen it do over 500 FPS in that scene, so not completely CPU limited.
I'll still look into a better test though, but that invalidates all previous data, so lots of retesting will be needed
In that case all is good, thank you! Still, it feels bad to see such poor scaling with overclock.

Relatively low core/memory/hotspot temperatures on this reference model are a pleasant surprise. When the reference model brings top performance, aesthetics, cold and silent card, one might ask what's the point of non reference cards ? Can't wait to read your reviews of custom models.
 
Joined
May 13, 2022
Messages
75 (0.10/day)
System Name Main PC
Processor I5 12400F
Motherboard MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI
Cooling Noctua NH-U12S
Memory Corsair Vengenance LPX 2x8 GB DDR4 3000 MHZ C16
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 2060 KO
Storage WD SN550 500GB M.2-2280 (Main drive)/ Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" SSD/ SanDisk Ultra 2 TB 2.5" SSD
Display(s) Main: AOC C24G1 24.0" 1920 x 1080 144 Hz 1ms, 2nd: AOC 24B2XH 23.8" 1920 x 1080 75 Hz
Case Fractal Design Pop Air
Audio Device(s) Razer Kraken 7.1
Power Supply Be quiet System Power 9 500 CM 500 W 80+ Bronze Semi-modular
Mouse Razer Deathadder Chroma
Keyboard Corsair strafe (Cherry MX Silent)
Software Windows 10
I wonder why you didn't ask the most important question!! Will it blend! Then it hit me you can't fit this thing in a blender.
They managed to fit an entire blender in another larger one in one of the Blendtec videos so i think it's plausible to fit a 4090
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 18, 2016
Messages
8 (0.00/day)
System Name Soko 6
Processor Intel i5-3470
Motherboard MSI Z77 MPOWER
Cooling Thermalright Venomous X
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX970 G1 Gaming 4GB
Storage Samsung 750 EVO 500GB
Display(s) Dell U2412M
Case Cooler Master 690
Power Supply Antec TP-750C
relative-performance_3840-2160.png

How exactly is 45% speed up "probably the largest jump gen-over-gen for many year"??
100% (3090Ti) vs 64% (2080Ti) is roughly 56% speed up.
 
Joined
Dec 14, 2011
Messages
270 (0.06/day)
Processor 12900K @5.1all Pcore only, 1.23v
Motherboard MSI Edge
Cooling D15 Chromax Black
Memory 32GB 4000 C15
Video Card(s) 4090 Suprim X
Storage Various Samsung M.2s, 860 evo other
Display(s) Predator X27 / Deck (Nreal air) / LG C3 83
Case FD Torrent
Audio Device(s) Hifiman Ananda / AudioEngine A5+
Power Supply Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
Mouse Amazon finest (no brand)
Keyboard Amazon finest (no brand)
VR HMD Index
Benchmark Scores I got some numbers.
I'm disappointed. There were multiple "leaks" on Videocardz.com showing nearly double the performance of a 3090.
Check some more reviews out, there are games showing literally double the performance of a 3090 is rasterization.


Bit surprised by the power charts here, the 4090 is using less power in gaming than a 3090? :S
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
16,453 (4.70/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D -30 uv
Motherboard AsRock Steel Legend B650
Cooling MSI C360 AIO
Memory 32gb 6000 CL 30-36-36-76
Video Card(s) MERC310 7900 XT -60 uv +150 core
Display(s) NZXT Canvas IPS 1440p 165hz 27"
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black)
Audio Device(s) HD58X, Asgard 2, Modi 3
Power Supply Corsair RM850W

jayz2 cents review, 18 minutes in, bend the cable gently folks, lol

and i also finished the gamersnexus review. its an impressive jump, but at end of day this is just for 4k gamers. i only care about 1440p 27" high refresh, so I am waiting for high end RDNA3
 
Joined
Jun 20, 2022
Messages
302 (0.43/day)
Location
Germany
System Name Galaxy Tab S8+
Processor Snapdragon 8 gen 1 SOC
Cooling passive
Memory 8 GB
Storage 256 GB + 512 GB SD
Display(s) 2.800 x 1.752 Super AMOLED
Power Supply 10.090 mAh
Software Android 12
Really impressed by performance and energy efficiency (especially if the powerlimit is reduced to 60% or if an FPS limit is in place) but dimensions are a different story - especially if you consider it's energy efficiency.

Pricing is hard to judge right now. The 90s series of nVIDIA cards always was expensive compared to the rest of the stack but without numbers for 4080 16GB and 4070... ehm sorry... 4080 12GB it's just not possible right now. Until those get tested I might keep my opinion: 4080 is to expensive, the markup to high. And I fear prices for 4070, 4060 and 4050 will also go up significantly and nVIDIA will look even more greedy than it is currently.

Compared to the 3090/3090ti the price is really good - especially if you consider prices of last year or even the beginning of this year.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
16,453 (4.70/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D -30 uv
Motherboard AsRock Steel Legend B650
Cooling MSI C360 AIO
Memory 32gb 6000 CL 30-36-36-76
Video Card(s) MERC310 7900 XT -60 uv +150 core
Display(s) NZXT Canvas IPS 1440p 165hz 27"
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black)
Audio Device(s) HD58X, Asgard 2, Modi 3
Power Supply Corsair RM850W
1665496608014.png


guru3d review, ray tracing on at 4k for an old ass game like Legion... still only 60 fps. nah thanks bros, I'd rather be gaming at 144+ fps on a 144+hz monitor.

much more immersive experience that way.

I have said it all along, RT is the new Physx, neat, but too much of a performance hit.
 
Joined
Jan 6, 2013
Messages
349 (0.08/day)
given dlss is the biggest new feature of this generation, you've spent way too much time on only raster performance which OK, isn't a huge jump, but it isn't the point really. Because if next year on this time, 95% of the games will support dlss 3 then this car will be a 3x the performance of 3090TI card, which is a FANTASTIC performance for the price actually...

And sure, dlss 3 needs to be implemented by game devs, but given there are already numerous partnerships in place for dlss 2, those will most likely add dlss3 support in the games and nvidia being nvidia, will push this even more with other games, given it is their biggest feature IMO for this generation.

I really don't agree with the people saying dlss 3 is vaporware. It has it's flaws, sure, but improving raster performance by 2-3x like DLSS3, this would means 2025-2028 timeframe. With DLSS3 and AI we can get this NOW. That is 4k 144hz RT on, which is great.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Feb 16, 2017
Messages
477 (0.18/day)
It's obviously a card that performs incredibly well.

My point is that the hyperbole in the conclusion of this review reflects severe historical ignorance and is unwarranted. It performs incredibly well, and its incredible performance uplift is exactly in the ordinary window of expectations that has been occurring for over a decade as new generations of GPU get launched.

This is a "meets expectations" product concerning traditional performance. Which is perfectly fine - generational improvements are fantastic and game-changing! But to act like this is an "exceeds expectations" product when talking about plain rasterized performance is nonsense. The Ray Tracing and feature set is in many ways extra-ordinary and I think some hyperbole there appears justified. But not on the baseline performance as exists currently in this review's conclusion.
It's also made less impressive when making other considerations like the price increases generation to generation.
 
Joined
Aug 10, 2021
Messages
166 (0.16/day)
System Name Main
Processor 5900X
Motherboard Asrock 570X Taichi
Memory 32GB
Video Card(s) 6800XT
Display(s) Odyssey C49G95T - 5120 x 1440
agree with others here, nothing exceptional (raster only), and for that pricepoint shouldn't be recommended imo

Anyways, W1zzard, would it be possible to include a unity game to the test list.
Also an API FPS average graph

Thanks for the review
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
16,453 (4.70/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D -30 uv
Motherboard AsRock Steel Legend B650
Cooling MSI C360 AIO
Memory 32gb 6000 CL 30-36-36-76
Video Card(s) MERC310 7900 XT -60 uv +150 core
Display(s) NZXT Canvas IPS 1440p 165hz 27"
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black)
Audio Device(s) HD58X, Asgard 2, Modi 3
Power Supply Corsair RM850W
given dlss is the biggest new feature of this generation, you've spent way too much time on only raster performance which OK, isn't a huge jump, but it isn't the point really. Because if next year on this time, 95% of the games will support dlss 3 then this car will be a 3x the performance of 3090TI card, which is a FANTASTIC performance for the price actually...

what are you on about? most games will not support DLSS3. even the games that most recently supported DLSS2, barely increase FPS at all. lol check out some of @maxus24 reviews he does comparisons, it does help the image quality some, but fps gains have been very unimpressive lately. DLSS is overhyped. hell they were bragging about DLSS3 for Cyberpunk 2077, but they couldn't even have it ready for launch, its too buggy still. and that is for their flagship showcase game... let alone some small developer, or a console AMD port...
 
Joined
Sep 1, 2009
Messages
1,188 (0.22/day)
Location
CO
System Name 4k
Processor AMD 5800x3D
Motherboard MSI MAG b550m Mortar Wifi
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 4x8Gb Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 bl8g36c16u4b.m8fe1
Video Card(s) Nvidia Reference 3080Ti
Storage ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB
Display(s) LG 48" C1
Case CORSAIR Carbide AIR 240 Micro-ATX
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar STX
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 650W
Software Microsoft Windows10 Pro x64
If this card cost $1000 or even $1200, it would have been a winner.
 

HTC

Joined
Apr 1, 2008
Messages
4,610 (0.78/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name HTC's System
Processor Ryzen 5 5800X3D
Motherboard Asrock Taichi X370
Cooling NH-C14, with the AM4 mounting kit
Memory G.Skill Kit 16GB DDR4 F4 - 3200 C16D - 16 GTZB
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse 6600 8 GB
Storage 1 Samsung NVMe 960 EVO 250 GB + 1 3.5" Seagate IronWolf Pro 6TB 7200RPM 256MB SATA III
Display(s) LG 27UD58
Case Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair TX 850M 80+ Gold
Mouse Razer Deathadder Elite
Software Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS
Screenshot from 2022-10-11 14-54-00.png


This chart was made by a youtuber using nVidia's claimed performance of the card: the Y axis is how much % faster the card was VS previous X80 card, so the GTX 480 was around 54% faster than the GTX 280, and so on and so forth.

@W1zzard : any chance you could do something similar to this of the X90 class of GPUs?
 

iO

Joined
Jul 18, 2012
Messages
526 (0.12/day)
Location
Germany
Processor R7 5700x
Motherboard MSI B450i Gaming
Cooling Accelero Mono CPU Edition
Memory 16 GB VLP
Video Card(s) AMD RX 6700 XT
Storage P34A80 512GB
Display(s) LG 27UM67 UHD
Case none
Power Supply SS G-650
Massive performance but 2150€ is just ridiculous.

And ironically it's so fast that their hyped DLSS3 support becomes kinda moot.
 
Joined
May 11, 2018
Messages
998 (0.45/day)
given dlss is the biggest new feature of this generation, you've spent way too much time on only raster performance which OK, isn't a huge jump, but it isn't the point really. Because if next year on this time, 95% of the games will support dlss 3 then this car will be a 3x the performance of 3090TI card, which is a FANTASTIC performance for the price actually...

No. Right now 95% of games don't support DLSS, and it has been around for two generations. And now game developers have also other options that don't require working closely with graphics card maker / paying to be implemented.
 
Joined
Jan 6, 2013
Messages
349 (0.08/day)
what are you on about? most games will not support DLSS3. even the games that most recently supported DLSS2, barely increase FPS at all. lol check out some of @maxus24 reviews he does comparisons, it does help the image quality some, but fps gains have been very unimpressive lately. DLSS is overhyped. hell they were bragging about DLSS3 for Cyberpunk 2077, but they couldn't even have it ready for launch, its too buggy still. and that is for their flagship showcase game... let alone some small developer, or a console AMD port...
1. dlss 3 is present in cyberpunk, check other reviews...
2. you are not very well informed. dlss 2 is an upscaling tech. dlss 3 is a frame generation tech, so it will most definitely add a lot of performance in the games, especially in the limited ones, also CPU limited ones. read a bit more about how dlss 3 works..
 
Joined
Jun 21, 2013
Messages
543 (0.14/day)
Processor Ryzen 9 3900x
Motherboard MSI B550 Gaming Plus
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB GSkill Ripjaws V 3600CL16
Video Card(s) 3060Ti FE 0.9v
Storage Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, 2x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB
Display(s) ASUS ProArt PA278QV
Case be quiet! Pure Base 500
Audio Device(s) Edifier R1850DB
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex III 650W
Mouse A4Tech X-748K
Keyboard Logitech K300
Software Win 10 Pro 64bit
I expect RDNA3 to do great in raster, but AMD will be in trouble if the RT performance is trash like their current cards, seeing how more and more games are using raytracing.
 
Joined
Jan 6, 2013
Messages
349 (0.08/day)
No. Right now 95% of games don't support DLSS, and it has been around for two generations. And now game developers have also other options that don't require working closely with graphics card maker / paying to be implemented.
would be a bit childish to believe that nvidia spent this much silicon on ADA for DLSS3 and not push it with the devs. also the main gaming engines already support dlss 3 integration out of the box, so newer games will have it...
 
Top