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TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

Greenslade said:
Can you explain why the keyboard failed to work on F1 or F2 with that message about the floppy drive?As regards the other PC i found it switched on all fans running and showed a light on my T5 when plugged in.
When i tried to turn it off i had to keep on pressing the on off button before it shut down.
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Sadly, this is a hands-on kind of situation. Where do you keep finding these strangely dumpy systems that are so riddled with problems?
 
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68Olds said:
You'll need to change the clock from 12 hour to 24 hour too. I see a PM in your picture, so it is currently set to 12 hour.

Press & hold to shutdown is normal. You don't have an operating system to handle a normal shutdown.
So F2 doesn't take you into the BIOS? You got there somehow, because that screen picture is in the BIOS.
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It won't let me only go any higher than 12. I am confused by it all o_O

lexluthermiester said:
Sadly, this is a hands-on kind of situation. Where do you keep finding these strangely dumpy systems that are so riddled with problems?
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lexluthermiester said:
Sadly, this is a hands-on kind of situation. Where do you keep finding these strangely dumpy systems that are so riddled with problems?
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If I get the CMOS battery hopefully it will sort it out. I did not see those laptops. but are they worth getting if they are back there tomorrow?
 
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Hm, just by curiousity I tried that X800 RX (Club3D's own moniker) and damn, it was only X800 GT (8 pipes). I was hoping for a 12-pipe GTO.

Well, I need to try that with an older system some day with older games and benchmarks.
 
I have just got my PS3 set up with the basic stuff .I have downloaded the manual to PDF but the print is far to small, how can i make it normal size ?o_OI have an HP Envy 5000 printer.I would be surprised if anyone on here can read it without a magnefine glass
When i download my BT bill for broadband it is the normal size.

lexluthermiester said:
Sadly, this is a hands-on kind of situation. Where do you keep finding these strangely dumpy systems that are so riddled with problems?
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I bought it from the local brick brack market. And just took a chance on it for a fiver. The other one I found was chucked out in the street.
 

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Cool & Crazy hardware from who else but LGR.


 
The monitor enclosure looks like an old microwave. :laugh:
 
Greenslade said:
I have just got my PS3 set up with the basic stuff .I have downloaded the manual to PDF but the print is far to small, how can i make it normal size ?o_OI have an HP Envy 5000 printer.I would be surprised if anyone on here can read it without a magnefine glass
When i download my BT bill for broadband it is the normal size.


I bought it from the local brick brack market. And just took a chance on it for a fiver. The other one I found was chucked out in the street.
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I have to ask that why you need a manual for? I mean, I got my PS3 used as well and never seen any use for a manual. This is the only help I've needed when I changed the HDD to a SSD.

How to update PS3 console system software

Get the latest PlayStation®3 system software update.
www.playstation.com www.playstation.com
 
Greenslade said:
I bought it from the local brick brack market. And just took a chance on it for a fiver. The other one I found was chucked out in the street.
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Fair enough. Not bad for a fiver, if you can get it fixed up, which I suspect you can.

stinger608 said:
The monitor enclosure looks like an old microwave. :laugh:
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That's what I thought too!
 
While I may not come across so much rare things as @Robert B does, I'm thankful to announce that my Ti4200 is very much alive :D

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Almost. Original 423 chip, although I have had a 478-to-423 on the board originally. (and still have that socket adapter in my drawer, with a 1.6 or so Celeron)
 
MaxiPro800 said:
Almost. Original 423 chip, although I have had a 478-to-423 on the board originally. (and still have that socket adapter in my drawer, with a 1.6 or so Celeron)
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Ah, I truly forgot that SDR 423 boards exist, I remembered that only cheaper 478 boards supported P4 and SDR.
 
Does anybody here have experience with 2009~2013 systems and Windows 10?
I wonder if Windows 10 would somehow affect the performance of X48/X58/X79 systems (and period correct video cards) compared to Windows 7
 
framebuffer said:
Does anybody here have experience with 2009~2013 systems and Windows 10?
I wonder if Windows 10 would somehow affect the performance of X48/X58/X79 systems (and period correct video cards) compared to Windows 7
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I have Win10 on my X58 X5675 rig and nothing to complain there. Runs perfectly fine :)
 
Some more updates on my 2007ish era PC. Replaced the vanilla P5K with the Pro version, hopefully the VRM is better suited for Q6600 OC. Might ask a friend to try out his Q6600 if it's a better overclocker, couldn't get mine to above 3.2GHz on the vanilla 5PK.
GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB with the full G92 core is here as well, only the CPU cooler is up for consideration. Thinking of getting Zalman CNPS9700-NT, would you guys consider it as appropriate for the build? Thanks.
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Some more updates on my 2007ish era PC. Replaced the vanilla P5K with the Pro version, hopefully the VRM is better suited for Q6600 OC. Might ask a friend to try out his Q6600 if it's a better overclocker, couldn't get mine to above 3.2GHz on the vanilla 5PK.
GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB with the full G92 core is here as well, only the CPU cooler is up for consideration. Thinking of getting Zalman CNPS9700-NT, would you guys consider it as appropriate for the build? Thanks.
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CNPS9900 Max is quite good if you want era-appropriate. $30 new from Zalman on Amazon USA https://a.co/d/2POAupo
Honestly though this is not the most efficient implementation of heatpipes, it will perform about the same as your standard 4-heatpipe tower (a lá Deepcool Gammaxx 400 which is another good budget choice)
 
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Thinking of getting Zalman CNPS9700-NT, would you guys consider it as appropriate for the build? Thanks.
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For sure; those kinds of coolers were the bees' knees back then. Another era-appropriate choice (I know cuz I had one) is CM Hyper 212+, which was pretty decent for 77X procs IME.
 
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Some more updates on my 2007ish era PC. Replaced the vanilla P5K with the Pro version, hopefully the VRM is better suited for Q6600 OC. Might ask a friend to try out his Q6600 if it's a better overclocker, couldn't get mine to above 3.2GHz on the vanilla 5PK.
GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB with the full G92 core is here as well, only the CPU cooler is up for consideration. Thinking of getting Zalman CNPS9700-NT, would you guys consider it as appropriate for the build? Thanks.
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FEAR... the Crysis of 2005 what it came to system requirements. And it had awesome AI back in the day.

Still a great game!
 
Lenne said:
FEAR... the Crysis of 2005 what it came to system requirements. And it had awesome AI back in the day.

Still a great game!
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Talking about games, I think that Red faction Guerilla was an underrated classic. You might benefit from dedicated PhysX card too. Although it is particularly hard to run.
 
ShrimpBrime said:
Can you explain this please? I am currently gathering information (at a slower than wanted pace) and would like your input an what you mean by this.
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I think he means a dedicated card which existed before Nvidia bought Ageia.

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ShrimpBrime said:
Yes I know. I have a physx card. PPU2 actually. That's a PPU first gen. 7.11.13 drivers. Or use the 8.09.xx drivers.

I am curious about the meaning "particularly hard to run" ....
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It's brutal on CPUs. My Athlon X4 870K often drops to 30 fps or lower. I have watched i7 920 gameplays and it drops to 40 fps. That Core 2 Quad taht you have is probably the slowest CPU that may run it passably. Core 2 Duos don't run it well. And fps is unstable, due to complexity of physics during destruction. Despite all that, it's not nearly as intensive for GPU.
 
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It's brutal on CPUs. My Athlon X4 870K often drops to 30 fps or lower. I have watched i7 920 gameplays and it drops to 40 fps. That Core 2 Quad taht you have is probably the slowest CPU that may run it passably. Core 2 Duos don't run it well. And fps is unstable, due to complexity of physics during destruction. Despite all that, it's not nearly as intensive for GPU.
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I've been testing on W11 and 12400F at 4.6ghz.

So far the experience with UT3 and physx maps hasn't been the greatest to say the least.

Setting aside the cpu and generation, I've witnessed the same thing, but seemingly on a much larger range, of FPS drops.

Starting closer to 300+ fps and gradually lowering to unplayable frame rates even down to single digits. Some maps a bit worse than others.

Phsyx driver version didn't seem to matter much, all the particles where really good and plenty, but slow degradation of frame rates was very curious.

The one game I played in which this didn't seem to occur was Cell Factor revolution. The FPS stayed pretty high and smooth.

Been trying to determine how to help the issue with other games, but I think it's on the game developer end more so than the hardware side.
 
ShrimpBrime said:
I've been testing on W11 and 12400F at 4.6ghz.

So far the experience with UT3 and physx maps hasn't been the greatest to say the least.

Setting aside the cpu and generation, I've witnessed the same thing, but seemingly on a much larger range, of FPS drops.

Starting closer to 300+ fps and gradually lowering to unplayable frame rates even down to single digits. Some maps a bit worse than others.

Phsyx driver version didn't seem to matter much, all the particles where really good and plenty, but slow degradation of frame rates was very curious.

The one game I played in which this didn't seem to occur was Cell Factor revolution. The FPS stayed pretty high and smooth.

Been trying to determine how to help the issue with other games, but I think it's on the game developer end more so than the hardware side.
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UT3 should be very easy to run, hell it even runs on dual core K8 chips decently. Admitedly with PhysX off, but I thought that it should be rendered well on very overkill GPU compared to that game's requirements. PhysX wouldn't work well on AMD hardware, as AMD basically has to emulate or translate code, so there's a big performance penalty. Even then, Mafia 2, which uses PhysX, dropped to 20-11 fps at time with RX 580, but without PhysX it worked at engine locked 60 fps all the time.
 
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