12Gb GPUs already obsolete, brand new game takes up to 18Gb Vram at 1440p

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

WELP, RTX 4070 12gb just launched and a new game just rendered it useless as Star Wars Jedi Survivor reported to consume up to 18 gb vram at 1440p, jedi survivor is one of many upcoming games developed exclusively for current gen consoles which normally means very high vram requirements for their pc ports, thanks to consoles this time being equipped with generous 16gb ram, vram issues are continuing to get worse in light Nvidia shipping their midrange cards below 16gb vram, and it seemed like yesterday 12gb was considered to be the bare minimum, well maybe not anymore...

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/12zw867

- UPDATE : It appears that further testing shows the game eats up to 21Gb of Vram, PC ports of current gen games continues to render most GPUs today insufficient in light of gpu vendors giving you below minimum vram for anything but their top margin cards, is pc gaming dying?

 

[Toothless]

The game is coded like poo and FSR/DLSS are things anyone can use.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Pc gaming continues to be the best platform to play with greedy corporations releasing expensive hardware with bare minimum specs and broken pc ports, yay!

 

[ixi]

Don't start war with nvidia boys about gpu vram. They will come at you with dlss . But yeah, welcome to present time... sitting here with 2K monitor and 8GB vram...

 

[Vayra86]

The game is coded like poo and FSR/DLSS are things anyone can use.

And Quality FSR / DLSS cost additional VRAM, dont they?

 

[dgianstefani]

It's a hilariously bad port lol.

 

[Dragam1337]

The writing has been on the wall for a long time - you dont ever want to have a pc with less specs than the current gen consoles... meaning ideally you want at least 16gb vram.

And Quality FSR / DLSS cost additional VRAM, dont they?

Are you trolling ?

 

[Chomiq]

WELP, RTX 4070 12gb just launched and a new game just rendered it useless as Star Wars Jedi Survivor reported to consume up to 18 gb vram at 1440p, jedi survivor is one of many upcoming games developed exclusively for current gen consoles which normally means very high vram requirements for their pc ports, thanks to consoles this time being equipped with generous 16gb ram, vram issues are continuing to get worse in light Nvidia shipping their midrange cards below 16gb vram, and it seemed like yesterday 12gb was considered to be the bare minimum, well maybe not anymore...

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/12zw867

And for some reason developer is not distributing PC copies to reviewers...

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

The writing has been on the wall for a long time - you dont ever want to have a pc with less specs than the current gen consoles... meaning ideally you want at least 16gb vram.

Correct, I've been saying that for over two years, once the cross gen cycle ends and developers start making games exclusively for ps5 and series x, pc requirements and vram would shoot to the roof, i always recommend people to buy rx 6000 series over rtx 3000 series because of the generous vram the rx 6000 series gives you to last more than two years

 

[Dragam1337]

Correct, I've been saying that for over two years, once the cross gen cycle ends and developers start making games exclusively for ps5 and series x, pc requirements and vram would shoot to the roof, i always recommend people to buy rx 6000 series over rtx 3000 series because of the generous vram the rx 6000 series gives you to last more than two years

Unless one got the 3090. People who bought a cheap 2nd hand 3090 will be happy - others, not so much.

 

[wolf]

another garbage port to add to the list of ones to not pre-order or buy until it's fixed. If it's that damn bad with a 4090... VRAM is the least of anyone's worries.

 

[Toothless]

And Quality FSR / DLSS cost additional VRAM, dont they?

Guess we can both test, no?

 

[Frick]

I mean yeah it'll use as much as it can.

 

[raven1]

Im really frustrated with how Backwards Nvida is going with their New GPUs with limited VRAM. I was looking forward to something more compatible for my CPU with the 4060ti coming out in may, but finding out they are releasing them with just 8GB of Vram! Heck the 3060s were released with 12Gb Vram, yet the new 4060 is pushed back to 8? I've been a fan of Nvidia but AMD seems to be taking the lead with more affordable GPUs with 16GB VRAM on the same tier GPU price wise. Because most of the modern games coming out the 8GB Vram card will be obsolete. Thanks Nvida. I'll pick the 16GB till you get your shyt together with the VRAM!!!

 

[nguyen]

1. RTX GPU has over 30% marketshare, yet DLSS is excluded
2. <1.5% of all dGPU have over 18GB VRAM for this game to work

Fantastic move from AMD , they are actively trying to nuke PC gaming at this point (so people would move to console)

 

[raven1]

Unless one got the 3090. People who bought a cheap 2nd hand 3090 will be happy - others, not so much.

So do you recommend me getting a used 3090 with 24GB Vram instead of the 4070 12GB at the same price? But what about the 4000 series new DLSS 3? Will that make up for it?

 

[dgianstefani]

Do not buy a used 3090.

 

[raven1]

WELP, RTX 4070 12gb just launched and a new game just rendered it useless as Star Wars Jedi Survivor reported to consume up to 18 gb vram at 1440p, jedi survivor is one of many upcoming games developed exclusively for current gen consoles which normally means very high vram requirements for their pc ports, thanks to consoles this time being equipped with generous 16gb ram, vram issues are continuing to get worse in light Nvidia shipping their midrange cards below 16gb vram, and it seemed like yesterday 12gb was considered to be the bare minimum, well maybe not anymore...

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/12zw867

Well It is AMD Sponsored and engineered to run with the AMDs 16GB-20GB cards that are much cheaper than the 4090. Meanwhile Nvida is stepping back their game releasing their new 4060 series cards in May with just... 8GB! 4 less GB than their previous 3060 12GB VRAM. WTF Nvidia? Step up your game or its move over, AMD 16GB $550 GPUs are here.

 

[Vya Domus]

And Quality FSR / DLSS cost additional VRAM, dont they?

FSR not so much but DLSS comes with a non trivial VRAM cost, meaning if you struggle with performance and you also don't have a lot of VRAM you're gonna have a bad time.

 

[chrcoluk]

Bad ports will continue to exist forever, they are what they are, the real world of gaming.

 

[Toothless]

FSR not so much but DLSS comes with a non trivial VRAM cost, meaning if you struggle with performance and you also don't have a lot of VRAM you're gonna have a bad time.

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Is there an FSR chart floating around? I'm curious.

 

[Bomby569]

then comes Id Software and releases the new Doom, runs at 8k ultra with 2GB Vram on a 4 core cpu from 2010

WELP, RTX 4070 12gb just launched and a new game just rendered it useless as Star Wars Jedi Survivor reported to consume up to 18 gb vram at 1440p, jedi survivor is one of many upcoming games developed exclusively for current gen consoles which normally means very high vram requirements for their pc ports, thanks to consoles this time being equipped with generous 16gb ram, vram issues are continuing to get worse in light Nvidia shipping their midrange cards below 16gb vram, and it seemed like yesterday 12gb was considered to be the bare minimum, well maybe not anymore...

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/12zw867

DO NOT CONCLUDE X AMOUNT OF VRAM IS NOT ENOUGH (USED/NEEDED/ALLOCATED), WHEN YOU'RE USING A 24GB VRAM CARD, IF X<24GB

 

[GamerNerves]

If the best settings eat a huge amount of VRAM, that yet doesn't mean they are necessary or even beneficial to use. Bad management of system resources (optimization) is possible, but given how Fallen Order ran (pretty good imo), I'm inclined to believe they might have just included some uber textures for 8K screens or something like that - or perhaps these news are bogus.

Even if you should not as a consumer accept too little from a product, like too low amount of VRAM as is on the RTX 3070 / Ti, you shouldn't buy new hardware because some games are unreasonably demanding.
These news of extremely high requirements exist only to sell the new overpriced GPUs. They might be even pushed by AMD who offers generally more VRAM. Dumb people will be baited naturally, and reviewers possibly too...

 

[dgianstefani]

If the best settings eat a huge amount of VRAM, that yet doesn't mean they are necessary or even beneficial to use. Bad management of resources (optimization) is possible, but given how Fallen Order ran, I'm inclined to believe they might have just included some uber textures for 8K screens or something like that, or perhaps these news are bogus.

Even if you should not as a consumer accept too little from a product, like too low amount of VRAM as in the RTX 3070 / Ti, you shouldn't buy new hardware because some games are unreasonably demanding.
These news of extremely high requirements exist only to sell the new overpriced GPUs. They might be even pushed by AMD who offers generally more VRAM. Dumb people will be baited naturally, and reviewers possibly too...

A 4090 can't even run it well, so arguing a bad console port means a 4070 is obsolete is... strange.

 

[Dragam1337]

So do you recommend me getting a used 3090 with 24GB Vram instead of the 4070 12GB at the same price? But what about the 4000 series new DLSS 3? Will that make up for it?

I would absolutely get a used 3090 over a 4070 / ti - it's a no brainer in my book. As for dlss3, im really not a fan of it, and after having tested it in the different games, im not using it at all.

FSR not so much but DLSS comes with a non trivial VRAM cost, meaning if you struggle with performance and you also don't have a lot of VRAM you're gonna have a bad time.

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Are you unable to comprehend charts, or what?

It says ultra rt + no dlss = 11.6 gb vram consumption... ultra rt + dlss quality = 10.6 gb vram consumption.

Dlss does NOT increase vram consumption... it lowers the internal render res, so why on earth would it... -_-

A 4090 can't even run it well, so arguing a bad console port means a 4070 is obsolete is... strange.

Look at the OSD - it's not the gpu having issues, it's the cpu...