AMD Radeon RX 7600

[RedBear]

@W1zzard: Apologies if it's been already asked, but is there any reason for the lack of the RX 6650XT in the efficiency and power consumption tabs?

 

[EatingDirt]

This is not all that attractive for a low end product with the 6600XT & 2080 being at the prices they are right now. 1% performance per dollar over the 6600XT is a bit pitiful.

That being said, looking at the price-to-performance graph, it only needs a price reduction of ~$25 to make it one of the best budget options currently available.

 

[W1zzard]

@W1zzard: Apologies if it's been already asked, but is there any reason for the lack of the RX 6650XT in the efficiency and power consumption tabs?

I just retested 6650 XT for performance, because it's not part of my usual test group, but relevant for these reviews .. not sure if it's worth adding it for efficiency and power

 

[RedBear]

I just retested 6650 XT for performance, because it's not part of my usual test group, but relevant for these reviews .. not sure if it's worth adding it for efficiency and power

The two GPUs have similar configurations and very close performance, seeing just how more efficient Navi 33 got compared to Navi 23 looked kind of interesting to me. If you don't have time or you don't find it worthwhile, never mind it. Thanks for the answer anyway (and for the review, of course).

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Nice moving of the target by your side there! Firstly you ignore the price of 6900K (my mistake it is a 8-core one but it was demolished by a much cheaper 1700X) and then the one for the just released 7600. Kudos!

Dude, are you OK? Like, can you feel your arm, or count backwards from 10? Because I have no idea what you are babbling about. The original comment was on how GPUs are stagnating like CPUs did in the 2010s, and thus they are at least lasting longer, and somehow you have translated this as "bad" because a $1000 CPU existed. That literally has nothing to do with the situation and you are making yourself look like a total fool.

as for the the games being playable or not, I haven't seen any proof of what you wrote about the 7600. Please provide one if you like.

Like I have mentioned multiple times, Hardware unboxed did a revisit of the 8GB 3070 and found it to be woefully lacking. Since you are unable to understand how searches work, I found it for you:

You can also look up the review of the 7600 by techspot

AMD Radeon RX 7600 Review

AMD's new Radeon RX 7600 is a new mainstream GPU offering that is not unlike Nvidia's recent RTX 4060 Ti release - there's actually a decent product...

www.techspot.com

Quote: "The 7600 takes the lead over the 6650 XT at 1440p, but these results are somewhat skewed as the 7600 consistently had missing textures in this test. This is a common issue for all 8GB models, leading to inconsistent memory management and unreliable results."

Any other questions?

Nothing, Navi33 is a minuscule chip, it has 33% of the shaders and bandwidth of a fully enabled Navi31, I don't know what people expected.

There is nothing wrong with the 7600 other than the obvious fact that it's too expensive.

How about literally any improvement over its predecessor? If its okay to flame Nvidia for effectively re releasing the 3060ti, its OK to do the same to AMD when they re release the 6650.

 

[Camm]

The only thing really going for this is the price IMO, and even then I think it could stand to shave another $20.

I fully expect the 4060 next month for $300 to categorically outclass this.

 

[N/A]

The two GPUs have similar configurations and very close performance, seeing just how more efficient Navi 33 got compared to Navi 23 looked kind of interesting to me. If you don't have time or you don't find it worthwhile, never mind it. Thanks for the answer anyway (and for the review, of course).

I was expecting at least 20% benefit from dual shaders. Those 2% are non-existent and fake. Perhaps the drivers can't see them as such at all and operates in single issue mode.

 

[N3M3515]

AMD: Here is a RX 6600 8GB replacement 2 years later... enjoy!

Your're welcome.

 

[jsven008]

This is a great card for the price, and one that improves in virtually every facet over its predecessor the RX 6600 all while starting at a lower MSRP. The RX 7600 is ~25% faster than the RX 6600, a substantial improvement. Well done AMD, a great card for the price which will become even sweeter with the deep discounts and free games AMD offers.

 

[Outback Bronze]

This is a great card for the price, and one that improves in virtually every facet over its predecessor the RX 6600 all while starting at a lower MSRP. The RX 7600 is ~25% faster than the RX 6600, a substantial improvement. Well done AMD, a great card for the price which will become even sweeter with the deep discounts and free games AMD offers.

Looks like you're going to be the minority here mate. Very brave.

All I've been reading is another card release getting bashed. What a surprise.

 

[Zareek]

A sub $300 MSRP card that play everything at 1080p without RT, is getting back to where things should be. I'm still underwhelmed, in pretty much every possible way.

AMD definitely missed their goals on this one. I assume they expected better IPC and MUCH higher clocks out of Navi 33. Maybe it will get better as the drivers mature in typical AMD fashion. The RT gains, in particular, are an absolute joke! I hope the massively delayed Navi 32 is better.

I'm not shocked at the video playback power issue, they massively overhauled that. Next generation they should get that fixed. Then again, they still haven't fixed the multi display power consumption issues so who knows, maybe they don't care that much.

 

[RedBear]

How about literally any improvement over its predecessor? If its okay to flame Nvidia for effectively re releasing the 3060ti, its OK to do the same to AMD when they re release the 6650.

Off topic perhaps, but 4060Ti is effectively closer to a slightly slower 3070 "rerelease", only at 4K it's closer to the 3060Ti than the 3070 in TPU's average. It gets even closer to the 3070 when you factor raytracing. Of course in general the situation is similar, the cheapest 3070 on newegg sells for $400, so you're effectively getting the same performance for the same price (but with DLSS3 as bonus together with the AV1 encoder).

 

[tvshacker]

A sub $300 MSRP card that play everything at 1080p without RT, is getting back to where things should be.

It would be if it was something "new" to the market. Let me introduce you to the RX6700 (non-XT):

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rs92FT/xfx-speedster-swft-309-radeon-rx-6700-10-gb-video-card-rx-67xlkwfdv

(280$ at the time of writing)

 

[Baru68]

Why is there no Arc 770?? According to Tomshardware GPU hierarchy, an A770 is smidge above RTX 3060/RX 5700 XT performance, and they're included in these benchmarks, but why not intel.

First time I can recall being disappointed in a review here over the last 15 years. Please include Intel's cards that are in a relative performance range to the GPU being reviewed.

 

[tfdsaf]

Should be $250 at most, at $230 it would have been an amazing card with huge value and an instant buy from anyone looking into that $200 to $250 segment. Again, leave it to AMD to screw up their launch and have an underwhelming card, only for them to guaranteed lower prices of this card to $250 in one month or so.

Mark my word, one to one and a half month from now this card will cost $250 and it would be a much better value!

 

[oxrufiioxo]

All I've been reading is another card release getting bashed. What a surprise.

It's not just in these forums if you watch pretty much any other reputable review of everything from the 4080 down it's been really bad this generation.

TPU has probably given the most positive reviews this generation and that's fine all of them have been fine at a hardware level it's just that the pricing has gotten out of whack. Pretty much anything with a decent performance uplift got a massive cost increase and almost nothing has been decent from a price/performance perspective.

And now we get two releases in the 250-400 usd range with almost no performance uplift vs previous generation cards in the same price range.

It's almost like AMD/Nvidia never thought the crypto boom would end and now that the gravy train is over they are trying to milk gamers as hard as possible thankfully other than the 4090/7900XTX selling out all other cards have just sat in stock which is pretty unprecedented for a new generation.

Pretty much every model of 4060ti that is rumored to not have a lot inventory is still sitting in stock on Newegg currently.

The only thing seemingly missing is an equally bad 4060 going by Nvidia benchmarks that has 50% less vram than it's predecessor and AMDs midrange 7700XT-7800XT offerings left to save this generation.

 

[Outback Bronze]

everything from the 4080 down it's been really bad this generation.

So why isn't the 4090 included with its absurd pricing? Price/performance is worse than the 4080 down under.

all of them have been fine at a hardware level it's just that the pricing has gotten out of whack.

So why are cards getting bashed if it's just pricing? You yourself have said the 7600 is trash: "Wow this is trash" although you do mention pricing later on. It was just your immediate response that gets attention.

W1z: With these performance levels, RX 7600 is a solid choice for gaming at Full HD.

Tech Spot: "there's actually a decent product here, however it's poorly priced".

Also, people have been bashing turning settings down on these cards.

AMD themselves have said it: AMD claims that the new $270 Radeon RX 7600 is designed for 1080p gameplay at high to ultra-high settings.

Maybe we should all be saying the price of these cards is trash instead? Whereas I feel all I'm hearing is "cards" are trash.

Yeah, I get it if you are complaining about the 8GB but for 1080p except for the 4 vram hog games everything is fine. Many other cards with more vram available for people to choose from.

With the 4060Ti I've seen turning on DLSS3 can mitigate the 1% lows with settings on max with only 8GB of vram.

All in all, this generation of pricing is dog shit.

But let's face it, what % of stuff hasn't gone up in the last 2 years.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Corrected that for you.

24%? There's no situation that this GPU is 24% faster than a full die Navi 23.

The 4060 Ti was objetively worst.
You CAN'T compare the 6650 xt to the 7600, you compare the 6600 to the 7600, and in that comparison, the 7600 is 24% faster while being $270 instead of $300 that the 6600 launched at.

Yes I can and I just did, I'm not interested in fantasy product names and have never been. This is a full die Navi 33, which makes it a functional equivalent of the 6650 XT.

Comparing it to a clock reduced, die harvested version of its predecessor because it lacks a "XT" in its fantasy name is simply denial and lying to yourself. It won't make things look better than they currently are.

You'll overcome the stages of grief eventually, I suppose.

 

[Lionheart]

Such a meh product, no efficiency gains (not like I was expecting a lot) It's not terrible, just meh. The price drop was a bit late but welcomed, would of been almost worthy if they dropped it by $50, $249 seems reasonable.

I assume the RX 7600 XT is going to be the RDNA3 version of the RX 6700 XT / RX 6750 XT, RX 7700 XT will replace the RX 6800 XT and the RX 7800 XT around RX 6900 XT performance??

 

[Icon Charlie]

Thank you W1zzard for the info.

I have stated in the past about the industry YOU WERE WARNED ON HOW BAD THIS WAS GOING TO GO DOWN.

AMD and Ngreedia. BOTH companies are using market speak instead of innovation. They continue to price gouge their customer base with misleading phrases, such as " Effective Bandwidth" "Great 1080p video card". And so on. Hell my EVGA 1070 is a GREAT 1080p video card. Why am I going to buy a $300.00+ (tax plus shipping) door stop when I can spend a few dollars more and get a better video card from last generation?

I have been trying to say in a round about manner to BUY LAST GENERATION'S VIDEO CARDS as well as last generation components because of this sort of price gouging as well as the lowering of overall quality of components being made.

People are being sold a bunch of BULL$H!T. I hope you people understand just "why" was have been harping on the 6800/6800XT for such a while now.

So I'll say it again IMHO A DO NOT BUY THESE CARDS. YOU ARE NOT GETTING YOUR MONEY'S WORTH.
THIS REFERENCE CARD SHOULD ONLY BE @ $199.99 and then go up from there from their board partners.

If you want to spend money on this card. That is on YOU. The smart people will save their money and make their decisions wisely.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

So why isn't the 4090 included with its absurd pricing? Price/performance is worse than the 4080 down under.



So why are cards getting bashed if it's just pricing? You yourself have said the 7600 is trash: "Wow this is trash" although you do mention pricing later on. It was just your immediate response that gets attention.

W1z: With these performance levels, RX 7600 is a solid choice for gaming at Full HD.

Tech Spot: "there's actually a decent product here, however it's poorly priced".

Also, people have been bashing turning settings down on these cards.

AMD themselves have said it: AMD claims that the new $270 Radeon RX 7600 is designed for 1080p gameplay at high to ultra-high settings.

Maybe we should all be saying the price of these cards is trash instead? Whereas I feel all I'm hearing is "cards" are trash.

Yeah, I get it if you are complaining about the 8GB but for 1080p except for the 4 vram hog games everything is fine. Many other cards with more vram available for people to choose from.

With the 4060Ti I've seen turning on DLSS3 can mitigate the 1% lows with settings on max with only 8GB of vram.

All in all, this generation of pricing is dog shit.

But let's face it, what % of stuff hasn't gone up in the last 2 years.

Even though some of the games TPU uses don't even scale that well with the 4090 its still a large jump in 4k RT performance vs anything else and at least out here in the states it's only about 33% apart in price from the 4080
.
It's still too expensive though.



Really is just the price/performance making all these gpu's worse than they have to be or as I would say about some of them Trash.

4080 is an awesome card and would be great if it didn't get a 70% price hike at the very least offers something more than any previous generation card though.
4070ti is very good at 1440p and would be great if it didn't get a 33% price hike.
4070 again decent performance and probably the card I least dislike although the 20% price hike and only 6% better price to performance vs it's predecessor is still weak.
4060ti offers almost nothing over the 3060ti other than AV1 and DLSS3 which as much as I like DLSS3 it's very limited in it's usefulness and only really works in SP games as it is.

You can also really just look at how much Nvidia has cut these down vs previous generations and we are by far getting the least amount of SM per $$$ of any other generation.

7900XTX was overhyped but is a fine 4080 competitor at a 20% discount
7900XT was a joke at 900 usd to start but at 780 is fine but it still hasn't dropped enough to make the 4070ti less appealing for some and has some downsides.
7600 is 35% more expensive than it's predecessor for 24% more performance in the current market... Awesome.

Is it AMD fault their outgoing RDNA2 cards can't hold their MSRP like Nvidia, no.... That doesn't mean we shouldn't compare them at the current market prices though.


This is the sorta progress we've gotten after 2+ years honestly to me that is a bit sad. Basically the generation of the Sidegrade.

These are just my opinions though as I've always said if you look at the data and think these cards are the best thing since sliced bread good for you.

That is my mini breakdown of this generation so far.

At the end of the day people are going to have to do their own research look at as many reviews as possible and then decide what has earned their money and at least that hasn't changed from any previous generation.

 

[mechtech]

MSRP at launch (6 year ago) of 1030 (Pascal architecture =7 years ago) was $70, and not was a good price. This is a museums card, its price today should be $5.
Forget this trash, no one is going to buy obsolete garbage today, and less at a higher price than at launch. The existence of people who still remember it, and the higher prices, indicates that in the minds of some still endures stockholm plandemic miner syndrome. World goes on.

The winky icon meant a joke……

 

[sepheronx]

Not surprised at all

 

[wheresmycar]

So in a nutshell, even Nvidia's 4050 cloaked 4060 TI gives AMD's 7600 on its maxed out silicon an absolute thrashing! How on earth does AMD come back from this. Ok, "but its cheaper", no its not, for what you're getting this isn't anything remotely resembling ~$300 (ignoring the panic-driven measily $30 subtraction).... habitual market settings would have this sloth selling at $180-$200. Anyway, price is secondary to product capability and its shocking to see this is the best AMD could come up with. I'm not exactly excited about overclocked power guzzling alternatives either. For some reason, all of sudden i'm a little warmer towards the 4060 TI, nowhere near encouraging endorsement at the asking price, but 21c clouded pull out your shorts but no ice cream warmer.

Whats happened to the peoples saviour taking a swing with 'jailed VRAM provisions' at the green team? I kid you not, AMD stepping to the plate got me a little excited. I've been lingering in the shadows for a long time for some small pockets of advancements to open up wider visually stunning prospects going forward. Optimism is a killer, the assumption being AMD would ride increased VRAM offerings and wider bandwidths across the board. It was a good party trick to say the least. Like someone put it earlier - "RDOA3" it is!! unless less embellished titles like roblox is gonna carry you into ~2026. Don't catch me on roblox, its just an exaggerated postulation to cover what i really feel (a poop of a card for 2023).

Man the sales for the non-gaming segment must be insane for these manufacturers to drop these types of tedious poop-bombs of a cards on the larger gaming consumer crowd. Its not enough to suggest the price is the only problem here, these are simply horrible examples of GPU progression and a GPU evolution kick in the balls at a time when games are clearly demanding more power and wider graphics support capabilities.

Someone fill me in... (a genuine question)

Whats with these "HUGEEEEEEE" performance disparities between the flagship models and what is supposedly meant to be a high-flyer mid-ranger 1080p-killer card/s? The 4060 TI is almost 100% short of the 4090's performance. Now, we have a 7600, almost 120% short of the 7900 XTX. With gaming demands obviously incessantly at large, why the expansive cutthroat gimping between the flagship top flyers and the lower deck which is certainly not the bottom barrel scraping tier? I get the part where lower costs achieves maximum profit rewards or pre-fashioned obsolescence makes good business-sense but the level of disproportionism is too wide, too disconcertingly transparent and almost resembling a revolutionary corporate "we don't give a schite" milestone? What gives?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Whats with these "HUGEEEEEEE" performance disparities between the flagship models and what is supposedly meant to be a high-flyer mid-ranger 1080p-killer card/s? The 4060 TI is almost 100% short of the 4090's performance. Now, we have a 7600, almost 120% short of the 7900 XTX. With gaming demands obviously incessantly at large, why the expansive cutthroat gimping between the flagship top flyers and the lower deck which is certainly not the bottom barrel scraping tier? I get the part where lower costs achieves maximum profit rewards or pre-fashioned obsolescence makes business-sense but the level of disproportionism is too wide, too disconcertingly transparent and almost resembling a revolutionary corporate "we don't give a schite" milestone? What gives?

Honestly I feel like AMD/Nvidia feel like gamers who spend 400 usd or less are just lucky they even make a card they can afford. At least that is my view of the attitude they have towards them.