AMD Debuts Radeon RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 Powered by RDNA 4, and FSR 4

[Steevo]

If Navi 48 is indeed as small as 250 mm^2, there is no reason to charge more than $399 for it, and even that will stop many people from buying it.

Is that how you expect Nvidia and Intel to price their cards?

If it has 7900XT render performance and 4080 RT performance for $799 it should sell like hotcakes. I keep seeing people with this class of hardware crying about their not being a enthusiast level card, I don't consider my 7900XTX enthusiast, AMD hasn't made a high end competitor for two generations already and the sales of actual graphics hardware is consolidating into 9060/7900GRE/4070/4060 area unless you are talking about integrated and if they really come through on that front they just nailed it.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

It's 2025 and 7900XT is selling for 670€ atm and it has more vram. $599 MSRP would be DOA.

But that is exactly what they did with the 7000 series released them against cheaper and better Price to performance 6000 series cards.

Is that how you expect Nvidia and Intel to price their cards?

If it has 7900XT render performance and 4080 RT performance for $799 it should sell like hotcakes. I keep seeing people with this class of hardware crying about their not being a enthusiast level card, I don't consider my 7900XTX enthusiast, AMD hasn't made a high end competitor for two generations already and the sales of actual graphics hardware is consolidating into 9060/7900GRE/4070/4060 area unless you are talking about integrated and if they really come through on that front they just nailed it.

While I do think 800 is unlikely... 5-600 usd seems plausible if the 5070 is 600-700 usd... 5070 only needs to be 15-20% faster than the 4070 super to be ballpark 7900XT raster and it's already faster in RT.

 

[Soul_]

No price, no presentation. They are waiting for nvidia and then price it based on it. So this is going to be another badly priced gen for AMD then.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

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RDNA4 probably sucks, that's why Lisa didn't bother coming on stage.

 

[Krit]

It's 2025 and 7900XT is selling for 670€ atm and it has more vram. Priced at $599 MSRP, 9070XT would be DOA. AMD is sadly not Nvidia.

499$-549$ no more.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

No price, no presentation. They are waiting for nvidia and then price it based on it. So this is going to be another badly priced gen for AMD then.

Yeah, 50 bucks less than 5070 if it's on pair with it, or 50 bucks less than 5070 TI if it competes with TI. Nothing that would make 9070XT worth buying over Ngredia I'm afraid

 

[phubar]

Is that how you expect Nvidia and Intel to price their cards?

If AMD wants market share they have to price accordingly at this point.

If it has 7900XT render performance and 4080 RT performance for $799 it should sell like hotcakes.

RT perf won't be that good. And at $800 vs 5070 or 5060 it'll sell like crap. 7900xt already sells poorly vs 4070/Ti at $650-700 right now. Maybe 4070Ti levels of performance has been rumored with fair consistency. This would be a nice step up over the 7900xt's RT performance but nothing game changing.

If FSR4 works well and gets wider support that would be a bigger deal IMO.

I don't consider my 7900XTX enthusiast,

LOL wut?? A 7900xtx performs like a 4080 on pure raster. Its on RT it lags (performs like a 3090/Ti there). That is definitely a high end competitor. Biggest issue with it IMO in the market is that NV's DLSS has wide spread and better support at this point.

 

[Scotter008]

Where does this information come from? Any actual images showcasing this? Would be extremely interesting if true.

We also got our first peek at what the "Navi 48" GPU powering the Radeon RX 9070 series looks like—it features an unusual rectangular die with a 2:1 aspect ratio, which seems to lend plausibility to the popular theory that the "Navi 48" is two "Navi 44" dies joined at the hip with full cache-coherency.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

No price, no presentation. They are waiting for nvidia and then price it based on it. So this is going to be another badly priced gen for AMD then.

It's 2025 man it's not about who is the best priced anymore it's all about who is the least terribly priced for what it offers.....

 

[AusWolf]

Cool. When?

 

[3valatzy]

It will have small versions:

 

[AusWolf]

It will have small versions:

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The only small version here is the 9070 non-XT MBA. Although, this isn't an exhaustive list, so I'm still hoping.

 

[tussinman]

"RX 9070 being slightly faster than the RX 7800 XT. The RX 9060 XT will beat the RX 7700 XT, while the RX 9060 beats the RX 7600 XT"

9070 could be okay at $400 but $450-500 might be pushing it.

9060XT if they keep the $330ish price would be a way better value than the 7600XT

9060 beating the 7600XT is a given since the 7600XT was a joke (it was slower than the 6700 non XT and 3060Ti).

 

[Frick]

Is that how you expect Nvidia and Intel to price their cards?

If it has 7900XT render performance and 4080 RT performance for $799 it should sell like hotcakes. I keep seeing people with this class of hardware crying about their not being a enthusiast level card, I don't consider my 7900XTX enthusiast, AMD hasn't made a high end competitor for two generations already and the sales of actual graphics hardware is consolidating into 9060/7900GRE/4070/4060 area unless you are talking about integrated and if they really come through on that front they just nailed it.

100% of the performance for 100% of the price for next gen leap sounds like good corporate logic.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

First thing that popped in my head......

 

[NoneRain]

They didn't even talk about it in the keynode... damn

 

[remekra]

It seems RTG exists now only to provide GPU part to their APU. 1600$ RTX 5080 coming soon in few hours.
As a 7900XTX owner it's a damn shame.
Even more so if FSR4 is only for RDNA4. Guess those "AI Accelerators" in RDNA3 are for nothing gaming wise.

Edit
Sorry it also exist for Instinct Enterprise GPUs

 

[BlaezaLite]

LOL wut?? A 7900xtx performs like a 4080 on pure raster. Its on RT it lags (performs like a 3090/Ti there). That is definitely a high end competitor. Biggest issue with it IMO in the market is that NV's DLSS has wide spread and better support at this point.

It's faster according to TPU GPU database. Was looking at 4080's after the debacle lol

 

[Daven]

Well RDNA4 is obviously not ready yet. That’s about all one can read into any of this.

 

[k0vasz]

seems solid cards, but these will be on-par with the low-end RTX50xx cards only. and judging by the recent pricing, these will be just a tad cheaper than the matching nvidia counterparts

the real interesting cards will be coming with UDNA... but that's still at least a year away

 

[Soul_]

The biggest point I found interesting is, lack of confidence and lack of importance to consumer GPU division.

 

[3valatzy]

They didn't even talk about it in the keynode... damn

Well, I think it's a good approach actually.
To allow Gamers Nexus and the like to do the marketing instead of themselves.
Might get more positive reviews later...

Well RDNA4 is obviously not ready yet. That’s about all one can read into any of this.

I am afraid it will never be ready for what AMD expects from it. A low-end chip to jump over itself and behave like a CheatForce RTX 4080. Not going to happen.
The only thing which can save AMD now is to use Navi 48 as a revolution in the low-end, where actually the masses of average joes happily lurk around...

The biggest point I found interesting is, lack of confidence and lack of importance to consumer GPU division.

 

[Onasi]

This announcement is pointless without concrete info on availability and pricing. They essentially just confirmed that the card that we knew was coming indeed will be coming and have performance levels that already were expected and discussed to death for month. Classic AMD marketing self-inflicted wound. Jesus fucking Christ.

 

[Cheeseball]

It's 2025 and 7900XT is selling for 670€ atm and it has more vram. Priced at $599 MSRP, 9070XT would be DOA. AMD is sadly not Nvidia.

Yeah, 670 EUR (or $700) are sale prices unfortunately (which I like of course), but AMD still officially had the MSRP for it around $750 until now:


I'm not sure why you think $600 would be considered DOA since the direct performance rival of the RX 7900 XT (the RTX 4070 Ti Super) is pushing $800. $600 would be a competitive price.

 

[Bomby569]

and this is why they will fail miserably as always, nvidia it's all yours