Retailers Anticipate Increased Radeon RX 9070 Series Prices, After Initial Shipments of "MSRP" Models

[Knight47]

Boycotting everyone helps the monopoly. People should buy Intel, if they don't intent on spending over $300, go and find an RTX 3060 12GB at a reasonable price, if they want Nvidia, or invest in an RX 7700/7800 if they can find them at under $500. Pay for other cards only when they are at MSRP levels, plus maybe 10% of the MSRP price for the better models

Buying Intel gpu would be downgrade, same goes for RTX3060. I waited for MSRP 4070Ti Super(Asus, Gigabyte, MSI), but they went out of production before it could reach that price. So I guess I will never buy a gpu.

 

[Jermelescu]

In Romania you can still find 9070 XT at around 750€

 

[Dimitriman]

Most of them are €1000+ here in the Netherlands.

So yeah, not even AMD can save the price hikes.

Either get used to it, or find a new hobby.

So happy I paid 668 euro day 1 price for my 4070 Super, which now is about 800 euro new.

 

[Dragokar]

The launch itself was kinda crappy, but there have been several options to buy close at or to MSRP in Germany if you clicked fast enough. I have a Sapphire 9070 XT Pulse on pre-order at Notebooksbilliger.de and got an 9070 non XT Pulse already.

 

[Cheeseball]

Tell your friend to buy me one; my nearest microcenters are halfway into adjacent states over 6 hours away (one-way).

Not possible. Because I asked him to try and get me one too. But they limited the purchase to 1 per order.

That Microcenter is literally 150+ miles away from where I'm at so I won't be able to make the trip myself.

 

[john_]

Buying Intel gpu would be downgrade, same goes for RTX3060. I waited for MSRP 4070Ti Super(Asus, Gigabyte, MSI), but they went out of production before it could reach that price. So I guess I will never buy a gpu.

It wouldn't be a downgrade for everyone. Someone running still a GTX or an old RX 580 for example, waiting to upgrade, going to Intel or an RTX 3060 12GB will get a nice upgrade. It will suck having to wait all that time to end up buying a card that costs almost the same as 2-3 years ago, but waiting forever doesn't look like a viable option anymore.

 

[neatfeatguy]

To be fair to our bot friends, if bots had physical form and walked into a microcenter they'd probably sell out too

Micro Center puts a 1 GPU limit per household for a set duration - which I think is 30 days - when supplies/stocks are low or an item is high value like GPUs. Sure, you can go in and buy a GPU and turn around and resell it for more money, but you can't walk back into Micro Center and buy another one right away. You have to wait for your cooldown period to reset.

 

[Athena]

Boycotting everyone helps the monopoly. People should buy Intel, if they don't intent on spending over $300, go and find an RTX 3060 12GB at a reasonable price, if they want Nvidia, or invest in an RX 7700/7800 if they can find them at under $500. Pay for other cards only when they are at MSRP levels, plus maybe 10% of the MSRP price for the better models. But not boycott everyone, because the only company that can wait and gain from that, is Nvidia. They make 30 billions per quarter from AI GPUs, they wouldn't mind seeing gamers boycotting them.

lol, you have a short memory.
Intel is no angel, remember all the times they had their CPUs priced so high, since they had basically no competition from AMD Then Ryzen came around, and Intel now has to compete, something they never had to do before, AND they are now switching to TSMC to fab their CPUs

Nvidia holds one of the biggest contracts for TSMC, (Apple also has a huge contract as well), and, as expected, they wish to sell their allocation to the high-end market first, and the scraps go to gaming

AMD needs TSMC to produce both CPUs and GPUs, and they can't buy enough wafers to produce what they need, so they allocate to what makes them the most $ first, like Epyc, and then high-end GPUs, and then, what's left is to the consumer market

We need more high-end fabs
TSMC is at capacity, and booked out through 2028 and the next big fab is Samsung, which isn't quite as good as TSMC, so, until we get more fabs, we are basically stuck in this kind of a situation on every launch

People just shouldn't buy things that they say is too expensive, and that will work, then you will see rebates, and added games, and so on, to move product, pretty much like everything else that has to do with supply & demand

 

[Tek-Check]

Microcenter had a TON of cards, and a ton of people buying them at MSRP. They said they had over 1K stock, and they did have the higher priced models as well, and people were also buying them. Catch there is, you have to go to the store to purchase them

The issue with online places is all the bots that buy all available stock and then a few minutes later, they sell them on fleabay at 2x the price

The online places don't care who buys out all their inventory which is the big problem. They got no incentive to weed out the bots

There are still around 20 cards, including at MSRP, in Denver store, for in-store purchase. A few lucky ones will get hold of those. Good luck.

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[john_]

lol, you have a short memory.
Intel is no angel, remember all the times they had their CPUs priced so high, since they had basically no competition from AMD Then Ryzen came around, and Intel now has to compete, something they never had to do before, AND they are now switching to TSMC to fab their CPUs

Nvidia holds one of the biggest contracts for TSMC, (Apple also has a huge contract as well), and, as expected, they wish to sell their allocation to the high-end market first, and the scraps go to gaming

AMD needs TSMC to produce both CPUs and GPUs, and they can't buy enough wafers to produce what they need, so they allocate to what makes them the most $ first, like Epyc, and then high-end GPUs, and then, what's left is to the consumer market

We need more high-end fabs
TSMC is at capacity, and booked out through 2028 and the next big fab is Samsung, which isn't quite as good as TSMC, so, until we get more fabs, we are basically stuck in this kind of a situation on every launch

People just shouldn't buy things that they say is too expensive, and that will work, then you will see rebates, and added games, and so on, to move product, pretty much like everything else that has to do with supply & demand

The last Intel CPU I bought, was a Celeron 333A. After that AMD. And yes I remember everything. But what is important is the GPU market to find an alternative. Intel is bad news and it is also a "premium" company, meaning when they get at the same level as the other two, they will start pricing their offerings high. But right now, what is important to the consumer is an alternative and Intel putting 10GB on the B570, while pricing it close to $200 and 12GB on the B580, while pricing close to the $250 price point, IS DEFINITELY GOOD NEWS and I will support them.

I have written probably 4 digit number of posts about how bad Intel is and everything you try to remind me here, I have written those, 100 times. But right now, we need them in the GPU market.

 

[AnotherReader]

I think it is. It is all the US news is talking about. Tariffs I know have been a thing for a long time. Canadians get almost all their milk from the USA. Because of Canadian tariffs the average gallon of milk in Canada is over $8 compared to the average price of $3.50 in the USA. I think the tariffs the USA is imposing are just a ploy to meet certain demands. Granted it has already led TSMC to announce a facility in the USA and Intel is starting to spin theirs up and believe Micron also has a facility in the works.

We only get about 3.5 % of our milk from the US. The average milk price in Canada isn't $8. Four litres of milk cost between $6.61 and $6.64 in the last 6 months. That works out to about USD 4.38 per gallon. As for our higher cost milk, it isn't because of tariffs; it's due to supply management.

 

[Guwapo77]

I know I won't get any apologies for my analysis...but I surely feel vindicated.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

If I wanted one of these, I still could get one at my local MicroCenter, but I’m not dropping $600+ on a GPU, and I’m not going to contribute to the scalping by getting one just to resell it. Another bonus to MicroCenter is that Best Buy price matches. I picked up a Ryzen 5800XT for the MC price, without having to drive 30 miles to do it. The catch is MC has to have in stock.

 

[Tek-Check]

AIB partners are the scalpers now...
9070XT sold out in our local pc shop within the hour. Some even as expensive as the 5070TI, and people still bought them because that is what was in stock.
The AIB partners is only going rape people round 2 with Nvidia and AMD.

You cannot put Radeon and Nvidia cards in the same basket. RDNA4 cards were a lot less expensive than 5070Ti earlier today. There is no question about it. That's another reason those have been selling so fast today.

I have not seen one single Radeon card on CCL that costs £900, and 5070Ti start from £900. Below is one of larger shops in the UK. They sold out almost all Radeon cards and they had a lot. 5070Ti cards are £250-300 more expensive. It's ridiculous. That's why 5070Ti are still sitting there in their shop, waiting to be purchased by those who are really ready to burn their wallets...

 

[AusWolf]

I managed to grab one from Scan UK for £570 while the servers at Overclockers were down. Thank you, internet for the news headlines featuring only Oc UK, and thus, redirecting everybody there.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

Things are so bad and with all those tariffs going around are going to become so much worst, that I think whoever manages to buy a GPU at MSRP will be lucky, even if the price is bad. Well, OK, not everyone. People spending $800 for a 12GB card would probably regret it.

The thing is that with NO Nvidia in the market, AMD's 9070 will go out of stock even if there are 1000000 cards out there. People are desperate for a good GPU at a somewhat good price, considering market conditions and maybe this is the only time where the sticker wouldn't matter to some. Because there is no Nvidia in the market. Nvidia cut production of 4000 series cards and push problematic 5000 cards in the market at ultra low quantities leaving many without options.

There is also a rumor of 5090's getting recalled in Europe for the obvious reason of being a fire hazard.

The tariffs are only 10% on hardware charging another 22% & all the up to 40% more isn't the tariffs.
It's the A.I.B's doing what they can do make every penny they can.

At this point we're all just better off not buying anything for the next 5 years till the A.I bubble bust; or the stock of cards is so high that they have no choice but lower the prices to normal or below msrp.

 

[AusWolf]

Micro Center puts a 1 GPU limit per household for a set duration - which I think is 30 days - when supplies/stocks are low or an item is high value like GPUs. Sure, you can go in and buy a GPU and turn around and resell it for more money, but you can't walk back into Micro Center and buy another one right away. You have to wait for your cooldown period to reset.

UK stores do that too, but they sold out in minutes anyway.

 

[Rungar]

cant buy one in Canada.. no suprise. These companies are soo full of shit. lol.

 

[Fluffmeister]

I could barely force myself to read the review of the cards, all the talk of building up stock, mean old NVIDIA with their fake MSRP, AMD cards will be cheaper and way more available BS.... it was like watching a train crash in slow motion.

Congrats to the few that got a card relatively cheap to actually enjoy, and congrats to the rest that will make a nice profit selling them on to others.

 

[regs]

We are getting absolutely trolled in the Netherlands.. as usual.

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Same in Russia - 1000 euro including VAT.

It's normal for AMD. Worldwide traditionally AMD is more expensive than MSRP, while Nvidia is traditionally cheaper than MSRP. As 5070 Ti went mass production just few weeks ago, once shipments will hit shelves they will be just more or less even in price. 9070 XT won't be cheaper.

 

[xorbe]

I thought I might find a non-oc 9070 XT card today, but seems like everything sold out in minutes this morning, is what I'm reading. Maybe these things will be sitting on shelves 3-6 months from now.

 

[Freedom4556]

The tariffs are only 10% on hardware charging another 22% & all the up to 40% more isn't the tariffs.
It's the A.I.B's doing what they can do make every penny they can.

At this point we're all just better off not buying anything for the next 5 years till the A.I bubble bust; or the stock of cards is so high that they have no choice but lower the prices to normal or below msrp.

The only fix to this will be both more supply (from maturing nodes) and less demand (from AI bubble popping).

Eventually the executives will want to know where the return-on-investment is for all the billions they've spent training LLMs. There's still no clear way for the horrid state of generative AI to actually make investors back the mountains of cash that they're blowing on firms like OpenAI.

The other shoe will have to drop eventually. We just never really got time to breathe after the Ethereum merge before LLMs moved in to gobble everything up.

 

[Denver]

As much as MSRP pricing sounds redundant and wrong...
The guy on Twitter said it, so it must be true. Right?

 

[TheDeeGee]

Same in Russia - 1000 euro including VAT.

It's normal for AMD. Worldwide traditionally AMD is more expensive than MSRP, while Nvidia is traditionally cheaper than MSRP. As 5070 Ti went mass production just few weeks ago, once shipments will hit shelves they will be just more or less even in price. 9070 XT won't be cheaper.

NVIDIA is anything but cheaper here (Netherlands) a 5070 Ti goes for over €1400.

My 4070 Ti was €1030 at launch and two years later the same card was still €950.

 

[freeagent]

My 4070Ti was 640usd almost 3 years ago lol.

Enjoy fellas