5070 cards available below £550 in in the UK

[NSR]

on a sidenote in Europe you can now get a 5070ti for about 50 to 100 more than a 9070xt and a 5070 also for around the same price as a 9070. AMD managed to cook itself even in this climate, even with Nvidia offering them everything, it's actually impressive.

On the "9070 availability" thread some of us mentioned that AMD is pulling some shenanigans in the background with pricing.

The 5070 can be found for much cheaper than a 9070. It doesn't make any sense for retailers to discount NVIDIA GPUs below AMD unless AMD is charging them more. NVIDIA is still the household name.

I still very much hate NVIDIA only offering 12GB on a mid-range card but if the 9070 continues to be so much more expensive I easily see people opting for NVIDIA instead especially for DLSS and 4X FG. Gamers will happily pay a premium if they think there's value in it but there's a limit.

5070 (left) vs 9070 (right)

5070 Ti (left) vs 9070 XT (right)

The Ti/XT pricing makes more sense but AMD can not afford to push the XT any higher than £700, especially with that Zotac 5070 Ti at £799. The XT was "supposed" to be under £600 to begin with.

 

[Bomby569]

On the "9070 availability" thread some of us mentioned that AMD is pulling some shenanigans in the background with pricing.

The 5070 can be found for much cheaper than a 9070. It doesn't make any sense for retailers to discount NVIDIA GPUs below AMD unless AMD is charging them more. NVIDIA is still the household name.

I still very much hate NVIDIA only offering 12GB on a mid-range card but if the 9070 continues to be so much more expensive I easily see people opting for NVIDIA instead especially for DLSS and 4X FG. Gamers will happily pay a premium if they think there's value in it but there's a limit.

I was making a general statement from what i've seen, but reading this i actually went and saw right now: the biggest and cheapest store in my corner of Europe and i can get a 9070xt or a 5070ti (899 euros) for exactly the same price and the 5070 is actually cheaper than the 9070. So i was actually not correct.

 

[mtosev]

Interesting prices in the UK. Here in the EU the cheapest I can find is 649€.

 

[Bomby569]

Interesting prices in the UK. Here in the EU the cheapest I can find is 649€.

if you convert GBP to EUR, 540GBP it's about 635EUR so it checks. There is also little differences between European countries due to different VAT's

 

[Calicifer]

AMD is rumored to raise their MSRP after the initial period. So, any advantage which they might have had in theory will evaporate.

In addition, AMD always had a whacky regional pricing. Sometimes in different regions AMD was way cheaper than Nvidia, sometimes way more expensive. This is why Nvidia wins overwhelming market share. MSRP is one thing, but prices often stagnate where Nvidia is the actual value option.

In my region, RTX 5070 is cheaper by 50 euros than RX 9070. So why anyone would go for AMD option? Sure, it might be slightly better. However, why anyone should replace product which they know and enjoy with some no name competitor? Who doesn't even offer better product? Just little faster raster performance for little more is not enough to entice people to switch from Nvidia to AMD to any serious degree.

 

[Krit]

on a sidenote in Europe you can now get a 5070ti for about 50 to 100 more than a 9070xt

Best price for RX 9070 XT right now is 705€ and best price for RTX 5070 Ti right now is 897€. That's a ~27.2% price increase for only ~6.4% average performance increase.

HW unboxed recomends AMD if it's only 15% cheaper than nvidia so...... AMD is better deal 897 - 21.4% = 705

 

[cinemaware]

on a sidenote in Europe you can now get a 5070ti for about 50 to 100 more than a 9070xt and a 5070 also for around the same price as a 9070. AMD managed to cook itself even in this climate, even with Nvidia offering them everything, it's actually impressive.

Is this true? You have some links?

And, sorry, @Krit , you can't compare 5070Ti to 9070 XT only on raw fps performance. That's not how the GPU/gaming world works these days.

 

[Krit]

And, sorry, @Krit , you can't compare 5070Ti to 9070 XT only on raw fps performance. That's not how the GPU/gaming world works these days.

even RT on average will not be 27.2% faster on a RTX 5070 Ti (only 17% increase over a RX 9070 XT) We are not living in rdna 3 days anymore where gap between is simply stupid. Difference in p/p overall is not big but AMD still is ahead of nvidia if we look at average results raster and RT.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Muh VRAM argument is boring and tired, lets quit it.

This! Thank You!

 

[Rover4444]

Muh VRAM argument is boring and tired, lets quit it.

I agree, the science is settled. 8GB is not enough for 4k gaming in 2055.

 

[chrcoluk]

I dont see that as a good price, multi gen old, no FSR4 support.

 

[cinemaware]

even RT on average will not be 27.2% faster on a RTX 5070 Ti (only 17% increase over a RX 9070 XT) We are not living in rdna 3 days anymore where gap between is simply stupid.

I'm not talking about RT, but DLSS4 itself. Transformer is transformative, and I wouldn't mind the MFG as option as well. Yeah, FSR4 is said to be catching up too...in, what, 5 games that count?

Also, that 27% valuation is based on our current clown world pricing. Normally it'd be 150USD more, which for me is worth it. This is why I asked Bomby569 for the links because it sounds too good to be true.

 

[Krit]

Also, that 27% valuation is based on our current clown world pricing. Normally it'd be 150USD more, which for me is worth it. This is why I asked Bomby569 for the links because it sounds too good to be true.

RX 9070 XT
RTX 5070 Ti

Yes FSR 4 compatibility is the biggest issue there but when RTX 5070 Ti is 192€/210$ more expensive then it's somewhat fair.

 

[Bomby569]

Best price for RX 9070 XT right now is 705€ and best price for RTX 5070 Ti right now is 897€. That's a ~27.2% price increase for only ~6.4% average performance increase.

HW unboxed recomends AMD if it's only 15% cheaper than nvidia so...... AMD is better deal 897 - 21.4% = 705

i need a link for a 9070 xt at 705euros in europe, do you have one?
is this a reputable store? new card? are the shipping cost reasonable?

 

[Krit]

is this a reputable store?

Not the best but i bought there HP X34 monitor for a good price only new items sold.

RX 9070 XT
RTX 5070 Ti

 

[Bomby569]

Not the best but i bought there HP X34 monitor for a good price only new items sold.

RX 9070 XT
RTX 5070 Ti

that's a nice price. In my corner of Europe prices are not like that, they are all much higher and anything below normal prices are shaddy 3rd party sellers and stuff like that.
I guess in Latvia they aren't as greedy or they are selling stolen cards, no other explanation makes sense.
Does that include VAT?

In here it's hard to get a decent 9070 for that price lol

edit: oh i remembered another explanation, you purchase and they cancel on your ass, refund the money, but it's a good way to get free publicity. I've seen that happen before.

 

[Calicifer]

Maxtrade is one of those online stores who redirects stuff and don't have their own stores. My friend ordered PC from them in the past and they were reliable. However, other such stores were very problematic for me. I don't doubt that Maxtrade will honor your purchase, but I have serious doubts about them honoring your warranty. They are one of those kind of sellers whom I wouldn't trust with expensive purchases.

Maxtrade however is a good indicator of where prices are going. If they happen to have lower priced supply, it means that such supply is available to other retailers too and they are now selling out their old inventory and they will restock in upcoming weeks with cheaper stuff too.

 

[Flayed]

would you give up fsr4 for a free game ?

I figure that the upscaling tech only shines when going from 1440p to 4k and I have a 1440p monitor. Plus I'm sick of the GPU market BS and will wait for a node shrink before replacing my card.

 

[Krit]

In here it's hard to get a decent 9070 for that price lol

But RTX 5070 Ti is at the same price. That's not normal at all when nvidia and amd are going for the same price. Maybe AMD gpus are selling very well........ In Latvia AMD almost always is cheaper and better value.

 

[Zazigalka]

I figure that the upscaling tech only shines when going from 1440p to 4k and I have a 1440p monitor. Plus I'm sick of the GPU market BS and will wait for a node shrink before replacing my card.

it's great at 1440p, and it's not only upscaling, it has an option to run native + fsr4 aa instead of blurry TAA

 

[NSR]

I figure that the upscaling tech only shines when going from 1440p to 4k and I have a 1440p monitor. Plus I'm sick of the GPU market BS and will wait for a node shrink before replacing my card.

Hot take but good upscaling isn't that bad even going from 540p to 1080p. I've been testing Cyberpunk FSR 4 performance at 1080p path-tracing and it looks pretty good (well, as good as 1080p can look), you'd have to be very picky to spot differences especially during gameplay. DLSS looks even better with their new model. A lot of the improvement comes from cleaning up TAA but upscaling definitely has a place outside of 4K. It is one of the reasons even budget buyers prefer NVIDIA cards (for DLSS).

 

[Calicifer]

In Hogwarts Legacy accidentally defaulted to FSR upscaler at 4k from Xess after driver installation. I thought that my game was visually bugged! Then I discovered that it was just AMD upscaler...

I heard many good things about FSR 4. I sure hope that it isn't bad as visual glitches anymore.

 

[NSR]

I heard many good things about FSR 4. I sure hope that it isn't bad as visual glitches anymore.

FSR 4 is a lot more stable and clearer than FSR 3, it's not even close. I won't go into too much detail since this is getting off topic but these are some examples from my testing. Stability is a night/day difference even in these heavily compressed and noisy GIFs.

Unfortunately, to catch up to NVIDIA, AMD abandoned the original point of FSR: wide-spread implementation for all GPUs. Oh well.

 

[Bomby569]

I'm ready to call it, AMD's MRSRP was a absolute lie. There are cards on stock everywhere and you can't find any close to MSRP, in general the 9070 is at best 50 over the MRSP and the 9070xt 100 over the MSRP, and this are lucky i got one prices, regular prices are even worst.

 

[NSR]

I'm ready to call it, AMD's MRSRP was a absolute lie. There are cards on stock everywhere and you can't find any close to MSRP, in general the 9070 is at best 50 over the MRSP and the 9070xt 100 over the MSRP, and this are lucky i got one prices, regular prices are even worst.

Called it last week.

I like my 9070 but AMD definitely fooled the market with this release. The current prices we're seeing are closer to what they wanted.

As for the 5070, stock on the sub £550 cards is drying up for now. Overclockers only has £599+ models left. I suspect the Scan models will be bought by the end of the week.