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Tri333

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Hello,
In few days I want to upgrade my computer and buy 9070xt.
And I really dont know which model should I pick.... Im literally green in OC, UV... I just want to plug in and enjoy my new FPS ^^

I want from my card just to be COLD, and not much loud.
At the moment I think about Nitro+, Asus TUF (same price in my country) or Mercury with Magnetics Air (~50$ more)

Which one should be the coldest one without changing nothing ?
 

It isn't that hard, isn't it?
 

It isn't that hard, isn't it?

No, it isnt... But already I watched and read a lot of reviews, and still i dont know which one is the "best" for Ogre like me.....
And its why I ask you guys, coz youre smarter than me in this topic
 
PowerColor hellhound is also a very quiet card, the Sapphire Pulse is not bad either.

Temps are ok, memory temps will be high on all and depends on card and brand of memory chips.

The performance delta between the different 9070xt cards isn’t huge, I’d focus on price and noise level since you will notice the difference there.
 
Here in Holland they advice to buy the cheapest. The temps, noises and FPS are very close to each other. So not worth spending the extra money for a couple FPS, 2/3 degrees colder.

Here the PowerColor Hellhound 9070 is the cheapest with €669

Fanboys will always advice their brand, but in this case make your choice by saving money. Its not worth the extra money
 
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I've been very pleased with my ASRock Taichi OC.

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Let me re-iterate =)

Temps doesn't matter much with those minor differences, performance will hardly be noticeably different.
Do you have a specific reason for achieving low temp?

Price will be noticable, but maybe less of a factor for you.
Noise is much harder to fix.

Most will manage a slight undervolt and perform more or less the same with a lower power limit for a more silent operation.
Or perform a bit faster with an small undervolt and rise powerlimit, but the return in performance for power used is of debatable value when it comes to gameplay differences.
 
I'm owner of ASUS RX 9070 XT TUF, so far satisfied. Card is cool and quiet.
AsRock Taichi is also good, but has that problematic connector, that's the reason chose TUF over Taichi.
Even Pulse from Sapphire is good. They released revised version.

I'd avoid XFX, they are way too thick (some require 4 slots) for no obvious reason. Also, they are a bit louder.
Avoid Gigabyte at all costs.
 
I'm owner of ASUS RX 9070 XT TUF, so far satisfied. Card is cool and quiet.
AsRock Taichi is also good, but has that problematic connector, that's the reason chose TUF over Taichi.
Even Pulse from Sapphire is good. They released revised version.

I'd avoid XFX, they are way too thick (some require 4 slots) for no obvious reason. Also, they are a bit louder.
Avoid Gigabyte at all costs.

Can you tell me your temps ?

At the moment probably Ill buy TUF too, im afraid of the 12v in Nitro+. Maybe there arent any news about melting in Nitro+, but knowing my luck I dont want try ^^"
 
Avoid Gigabyte at all costs.
I agree, (but i'm quite satisfied with my gigabyte gaming oc 9070 xt) but if I could buy right now new card i would go with xfx oc versions with vapor chamber.
I'd avoid XFX, they are way too thick (some require 4 slots) for no obvious reason. Also, they are a bit louder.
Better temps means that it should live longer, and xfx is i think best for now with temps.
Ah can You add what case You 've got and other components like mobo, and etc? cause with xfx it will clog your case really well, it's big card.
 
I don’t agree with this obsession with temperatures.

The impact on component life between 50 and a 100 degrees, yeah a bit. Between 65 and 75 no. Also the risk is that the manufacturer of the lower temperature devices have already factored longevity related to temperature into the equation and use less quality components.
 
@Tri333

Hello,

I would suggest whatever is cheaper from the common models that have enough reviews to make sure all aspects were covered.
This would usually mean "MSRP" priced models like the Pulse, Reaper etc. But sometimes the difference between these and more premium models is not as large as review prices would suggest.
So if the Pulse has a MSRP of $600 and Nitro+ of $730, that is a ~22% increase. If the actual street prices in your country don't reflect that percentage difference then the Nitro+ starts to become more desirable.
The ASUS TUF is pegged at $800 in the review.
With both at similar price I would have a hard time choosing between Nitro+ and TUF.

What is great about the Pulse is that it has a good cooler at "MSRP" level, meaning that if it's cheap enough it will have very good value. Also quiet out of the box.
Another great thing is that it's lightweight, compared to my obese 5070 Ti GameRock that is an advantage, also less tall and less thick. I chose what was the best deal at that time from the available models but I would've preferred a lighter card with similar cooling performance.
AsRock Taichi is also good, but has that problematic connector, that's the reason chose TUF over Taichi.
At this power draw level I would reckon there is no cause for concern, but still when it comes to principles AMD partners using the nVidia connector is treason and bad karma.
 
Ah can You add what case You 've got and other components like mobo, and etc? cause with xfx it will clog your case really well, it's big card.
Phanteks Eclipse 600s, MSI Tomahawk b650

Im just obsessed with temperature, coz I have my PC under the desk. And sometimes I touch glass in my case with my leg. SO it isnt nice to touch something hot.... And I dont have much space to put my PC somewhere else

At start I wanted to buy Red Devil (its the cheapest one) but after reviews Im afraid that he will be to hot
 
Can You mount the gpu with vertical mount?, cause it could push the hot air away from the glass panel.
but it could hinder the performance and temperatures of the card itself, and not all cards could fit Your case with vertical mount. (it could be to close to glass, to get fresh air, and unfortunately new card has design that is blowing hot air exactly to side panel).
 
avoid the powercolor ones, they are cheaper because they have smaller coolers, and the gygabite ones because of the pads issue. The rest is fine, noise just adjust fan curve.
 
Pay attention to the build quality. Personally I would at least tell the topic poster to avoid any gigabyte hardware. gigabyte has a very, very, very bis reason and at least two or more issues.

I would not buy myself any ASUS, MSI or gigabyte graphic card. I would also think twice to buy from brands which also make graphic cards for other chips. I doubt they will deliver any decent product.

The topic poster may read the newspieces for graphic cards and recent newspieces. The topic poster may check those youtube repair channels, especially about gigabyte graphic cards.

My powercolor 7800xt hellhound was one of the quietest in the previous genertion. What I remember of reading those tests, the powercolor hellhound is also a decent choice in regards of build quality and noise.

In the past sapphire and powercolor were good choices for amd graphic cards. I also believe they only make amd graphic cards. They do not reuse cheap nvidia cooler on amd graphic cards which makes the experience worse for the amd graphic card. Trash card i was forced to sell msi radeon 6800 z trio.
 
avoid the powercolor ones, they are cheaper because they have smaller coolers, and the gygabite ones because of the pads issue. The rest is fine, noise just adjust fan curve.

Or look at the noise and temperatures from the reviews? Bigger does not always mean better, it looks better and the margins are probably better.... but noise and cooling performance can still be good enough on a smaller cooler.

For me picking a card is, even though it bothers me to admit, more parts emotion (that huge cooler is awesome) than logic (I can save 100$ and the case is under my desk), I obsess over small (unneccesary) details and emtionally commit in ways that conflict with logic and facts. To feel that you make the right choice is harder to argue with or second guess, than second guessing your logic and facts.

You know what the compromises and uncertanities are when it comes to facts and logic, emotions just are.

I would if I was the OP meditate on that and then pick the card right for me, in the end the differences are not going to be huge =)
 
Or look at the noise and temperatures from the reviews? Bigger does not always mean better, it looks better and the margins are probably better.... but noise and cooling performance can still be good enough on a smaller cooler.

For me picking a card is, even though it bothers me to admit, more parts emotion (that huge cooler is awesome) than logic (I can save 100$ and the case is under my desk), I obsess over small (unneccesary) details and emtionally commit in ways that conflict with logic and facts. To feel that you make the right choice is harder to argue with or second guess, than second guessing your logic and facts.

You know what the compromises and uncertanities are when it comes to facts and logic, emotions just are.

I would if I was the OP meditate on that and then pick the card right for me, in the end the differences are not going to be huge =)
Indeed.... In fact it is one of the best in noise...

 
Or look at the noise and temperatures from the reviews? Bigger does not always mean better, it looks better and the margins are probably better.... but noise and cooling performance can still be good enough on a smaller cooler.

For me picking a card is, even though it bothers me to admit, more parts emotion (that huge cooler is awesome) than logic (I can save 100$ and the case is under my desk), I obsess over small (unneccesary) details and emtionally commit in ways that conflict with logic and facts. To feel that you make the right choice is harder to argue with or second guess, than second guessing your logic and facts.

You know what the compromises and uncertanities are when it comes to facts and logic, emotions just are.

I would if I was the OP meditate on that and then pick the card right for me, in the end the differences are not going to be huge =)

physics mate, less mass, less cooling capacity, unless you find a rock inside your gpu. You can't escape physics.
 
i had the hellhound and it's pretty good.
 
physics mate, less mass, less cooling capacity, unless you find a rock inside your gpu. You can't escape physics.
There are some nuaces to physics as well (and as usual the devil is always in the details) and thats where things get interesting! More mass means more capacity to store energy, the capability to radiate it in this case depends on the design, heatpipes, fins, quality, TIM material and airflow. So more mass does not directly equal to less noise or better cooling performance, it means at best better capability to generate less noise.

This is evident in the data from the various reviews in this thread, metrics for some cards clearly show less noise, some are slightly cooler and some are clearly heavier, all are metrics from physics and implementation of physics, just pick the metric(s) most important to you and choose accordingly =)

The XFX and Palit cards are perfect examples on this, they outweigh the competition by a up to a kg more and less and they are bulkier, but they are noisier. Maybe they would be less relative noise at 500w in, but that is not relevant, maybe they would be less noisy with a different fan curve or a different fan, but the fact is that they out of the box are not delivering better performance from a cooling and noise perspective than e.g Sapphire and Powercolor (as can be seen in all the reviews).

Fun anecdote is "obsession with weight, in the absence of an understanding of what it may infer, led to Japanese manufacturers in the 70s and 80s to fit heavy plates to the bottom chassis of amps. This supported a sales technique of a customer to lift an amp to see how heavy it was and, therefore, how robustly it was constructed." https://forums.audioholics.com/foru...ter-constructed-better-power-supplies.114110/ so it is nothing new=)

I suspect the vendors have different strategies here, they focus their marketing on differently, because we all different on what want, more than that some are smarter than others.

I will now shut up and not derail this =)
 
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