NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 8 GB

[CapNemo72]

I am strongly considering upgrading to this from a 1060 I have had for 7+ years now.
1. I bought a 4k gaming monitor but this coincided with frequent crashes and BSODs on windows, even after reinstalling and playing games at 1080p still (might just be the new nvidia drivers but idk). I have just avoided windows and only used linux for the past week which isn't ideal. Hopefully upgrading GPUs does something about this but idk.
2. I don't play anything newer than Doom Eternal so the 8gb concern isn't as relevant to me. The main use case for me is playing older games (hopefully at 4k) and software development where I can use a 4k monitor without Windows crashing every hour. I could buy used but I would like a more power efficient card.
3. I know that the 9060 xt is coming out soon. I kinda prefer AMD as a brand (better on linux, but nvidia is fine these days as well), but even if it is 20% faster, I am afraid its going to be more expensive than advertised.
Would like to know reasons why I shouldn't upgrade right now. Also microcenter has an open box deal for 270 near me.

In your specific case, I would lean to Radeon. Since you are happy playing your video games at 1080p, an 9060 XT should be enough and quite an upgrade from 1060.
Radeon has much better driver support on Linux. 16Gb of VRAM sound like a right amount these days so that should help too.

While I understand and agree with your point, I think it's pathetic. It's far more interesting & exciting to promote positive aspects of what each tier of products can do for a prospective buyer.


Right? That is one of the reasons I'm in no hurry to upgrade from my 3080. Though to be fair, the performance of the 5080 is compelling.

Yes, 3080 is still solid gpu, and depending on what you do, could be more than enough.

 

[dlgh7]

I think it's well known in general that for some games 8gb of vram isn't enough to max them out - at least in terms of textures.


That's the basis of your complaint? Nvidias marketing slide? If they remove that, you'd have no complaints, right?

Did you read the lines below? It describes the settings btw. Do any of these game have issues with the settings described? So what is your issue here?

The problem isn't marketing slides. It is the fact that Nvidia is trying to force and influence review sites and YouTube channels to not only cover the marketing but in some cases use it almost exactly like them. Telling them for instance with the 5060 that you have to test these games using these settings in this way. GamersNexus and Hardware Unboxed both said there was a unreleased game and the Nvidia team came over and because this is a partner game told them what settings they had to use. They maxed out everything and they said it was running at under 30 fps on a RTX 5090 I believe. They said it looked like it was a mess. All because of the settings Nvidia forced them to use in the name of them being a "Partner".

Nvidia is literally going so far to influence how you report on Frame Gen and DLSS that they want creative control on how the cards are previewed and reviewed. Which I don't even think is legal in some countries.

 

[Bomby569]

The thing for me is that 3070 is still faster.
I saw this card being sold 150-200 on second hand market.

Two generations later an x60 card should be faster than old x70 card.

there's a lot of people that refuses to buy used, i'm sure there is a lot here. And the 3000 series is still under the crypto boom and that doesn't help. And i know most crypto cards are safe and all that, but still the stigma is there.

 

[dlgh7]

Really with that? Keep that nonsense to yourself.

Another one reacting with ego instead of relevant contextual info.


There are those of us are VERY tired of the riff-raff making accounts to deliberately shitpost to serve a nit-wit agenda. What are we suppose to do, throw a parade for them? Eff that. If these fools want to come into TPU's forum and cause trouble, they can be given all the "warm" welcome(read napalm in the backside) they deserve.


With all the people crying about 8GB, you'd think they'd be more annoying about the 4GB and 6GB cards on and coming to the market.. Kinda proves how narrow thinking they really are.


This is complete asinine drivel. If an RTX2070 can run CyberPunk2077 very well(which is does), a 5060 will have NO PROBLEMS what-so-ever.

I am not responding with ego. Just knowledge. Companies get arrogant with success. It is the reason Nintendo sold over 100 million Wii consoles and only 13.5 million Wii U consoles. In fact it is a trend with them they are trying to break. They haven't experienced back to back successful console generations since the NES and SNES. Though they always had success in the handheld space.

Nvidia is responding with arrogance which they have also done before. In fact that is basically how we got the first Super cards. They had gotten so arrogant they needed a course correction and some goodwill so they released Super cards to try and accomplish it.

If you don't like what I have to say you can ignore it and not respond. It appears you are the one reacting. You could just skip over my post. I'm not the one with 31,000 post on a forum. You clearly like to be heard.

 

[JustBenching]

The problem isn't marketing slides. It is the fact that Nvidia is trying to force and influence review sites and YouTube channels to not only cover the marketing but in some cases use it almost exactly like them

I agree, Nvidia wants reviews to be done the way they want. But that's true for every single company on the planet. There is no company that wants their products to be reviewed in an unfavorable light.

But you know what's great about living in the West? There is nothing that nvidia or any other company can do about it. You - me - or any other reviewer can show them the middle finger and go buy the product we want to review off the shelf. Problem solved. We can then proceed and test it however we want. Complaining about not gaming early review samples just shows entitlement. Nobody owes you anything. Especially if you are a channel that it's main review comes from rageclickbaitdrama farming BS then i'd go as far as to say you don't deserve an early sample.

 

[dlgh7]

I agree, Nvidia wants reviews to be done the way they want. But that's true for every single company on the planet. There is no company that wants their products to be reviewed in an unfavorable light.

But you know what's great about living in the West? There is nothing that nvidia or any other company can do about it. You - me - or any other reviewer can show them the middle finger and go buy the product we want to review off the shelf. Problem solved. We can then proceed and test it however we want. Complaining about not gaming early review samples just shows entitlement. Nobody owes you anything. Especially if you are a channel that it's main review comes from rageclickbaitdrama farming BS then i'd go as far as to say you don't deserve an early sample.

I don't think GN is clickbaiting. I think they view themselves as a legitimate news outlet and not as much a YouTube channel. Which in this day and age isn't so far fetched.

GN has shown some chops in exposing companies and if it wasn't for them Newegg would still be shipping out DOA returned parts as new to customers. I had the exact thing happen to me a few months before GN posted their Newegg story. Newegg still wouldn't take accountability. Thankfully PayPal forced a full refund.

All the companies want good reviews but they don't try and force the coverage and test suites etc. This is why in the case of this story multiple sites and YouTube channels confirmed what was going on. LTT, Hardware Unboxed, etc. Except Nvidia then upped the ante with GN by threatening them to lose access to some of the engineers GN had done videos with before. Funny enough at the whole expense of GN as Nvidia didn't give them a dime.

Nvidia thinks that for YouTube channels that they can force their influence by effecting future views and content. Believing that by doing so these channels will be forced to work within the rules they want. No other company that I have heard of recently practices these sort of practices. This at the moment is kind of exclusive to Nvidia. While maybe you don't like the Expose coverage, someone has to do it or Nvidia will just keep up their behavior. Nvidia has egg on their face now. And now there are legitimate rumors of a Super Refresh coming this year. Coincidence? Probably not.

 

[JustBenching]

I don't think GN is clickbaiting. I think they view themselves as a legitimate news outlet and not as much a YouTube channel. Which in this day and age isn't so far fetched.

GN has shown some chops in exposing companies and if it wasn't for them Newegg would still be shipping out DOA returned parts as new to customers. I had the exact thing happen to me a few months before GN posted their Newegg story. Newegg still wouldn't take accountability. Thankfully PayPal forced a full refund.

All the companies want good reviews but they don't try and force the coverage and test suites etc. This is why in the case of this story multiple sites and YouTube channels confirmed what was going on. LTT, Hardware Unboxed, etc. Except Nvidia then upped the ante with GN by threatening them to lose access to some of the engineers GN had done videos with before. Funny enough at the whole expense of GN as Nvidia didn't give them a dime.

Nvidia thinks that for YouTube channels that they can force their influence by effecting future views and content. Believing that by doing so these channels will be forced to work within the rules they want. No other company that I have heard of recently practices these sort of practices. This at the moment is kind of exclusive to Nvidia. While maybe you don't like the Expose coverage, someone has to do it or Nvidia will just keep up their behavior. Nvidia has egg on their face now. And now there are legitimate rumors of a Super Refresh coming this year. Coincidence? Probably not.

You didn't answer the most important part of my post. What stops GN (im just mentioning GN cause you brought this channel up specifically) from walking to his local Walmart or bestbuy or whatever, grab a card off the shelf like the REST OF US and do whatever the heck he wants with it. He can review it at 8k Ultra PT and nvidia can do absolutely nothing to stop him. So - what are we talking about here?

 

[Hecate91]

The problem isn't marketing slides. It is the fact that Nvidia is trying to force and influence review sites and YouTube channels to not only cover the marketing but in some cases use it almost exactly like them. Telling them for instance with the 5060 that you have to test these games using these settings in this way. GamersNexus and Hardware Unboxed both said there was a unreleased game and the Nvidia team came over and because this is a partner game told them what settings they had to use. They maxed out everything and they said it was running at under 30 fps on a RTX 5090 I believe. They said it looked like it was a mess. All because of the settings Nvidia forced them to use in the name of them being a "Partner".

Nvidia is literally going so far to influence how you report on Frame Gen and DLSS that they want creative control on how the cards are previewed and reviewed. Which I don't even think is legal in some countries.

The fact that Nvidia has a history of strong arming reviewers into acting like marketing is concerning enough, the manipulative tactics would only damage the gaming market further, and I wouldn't doubt Intel, AMD, and nearly every other PC component brand would join into influencing reviewers into being too afraid to make an honest review of a product. There is GPP, which is debatable on whether it was implemented, though we have Asus who only sells the highest tier on Nvidia cards, and MSI who ditched AMD completely even on handhelds and has dozens of geforce models. Also, HW Unboxed who almost got blacklisted from reviewing Nvidia cards and were told to change their review direction to a more positive spin on DLSS.
The forced threatening makes no sense to me at all, especially when Nvidia has a near monopoly on the market, and consumers will buy every Geforce card sold no matter what a youtube review says about some overpriced GPU. You can't reason with the hardcore fans who think Nvidia should be able to do whatever they want, and it's sad that people defend a company to the point they think a company should be free of any criticism, the dismissive mentality with people calling a legitimate reviewer clickbait or ragebait is 100X worse than shielding for any other brand I have ever seen.

 

[NSR]

This is complete asinine drivel. If an RTX2070 can run CyberPunk2077 very well(which is does), a 5060 will have NO PROBLEMS what-so-ever.

The video praises the raster performance highly as well as the DLSS feature set and the initial RT performance (60-70fps with DLSS quality).

The problem was that it progressively lost performance as the memory buffer filled up with RT on. The guy with the 3070 who I quoted experienced the same issue which led to him dropping the game.

A comment under that video sharing a similar story:

I understand these specific criticisms get annoying but anything that helps make a more informed decision is a plus.

As usual, this is fixed by lowering other settings like textures but at that point why enable RT. If I was a new-gen buyer who wanted to play Cyberpunk with RT at 1080p High, It'd be better to buy the the 5060 Ti 16GB or the 9060 XT 16GB. However, I wouldn't know this without the testing.

 

[JustBenching]

The video praises the raster performance highly as well as the DLSS feature set and the initial RT performance (60-70fps with DLSS quality).

The problem was that it progressively lost performance as the memory buffer filled up with RT on. The guy with the 3070 who I quoted experienced the same issue which led to him dropping the game.

A comment under that video sharing a similar story:
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I understand these specific criticisms get annoying but anything that helps make a more informed decision is a plus.

As usual, this is fixed by lowering other settings like textures but at that point why enable RT. If I was a new-gen buyer who wanted to play Cyberpunk with RT at 1080p High, It'd be better to buy the the 5060 Ti 16GB or the 9060 XT 16GB. However, I wouldn't know this without the testing.

Can I ask WHY do we expect a 5060 to play cyberpunk maxed out with RT? I mean you do of course realize that there are cards that cost 3x and 4x as much and can't do that properly, right? We had 6800xt, 6900xt, 6950xt, 7800xt, 7900xt, 7900xtx - they all crap the bed on cyberpunk with RT. Yet here we are complaining that a 300$ card can't do it either while ignoring the 1k+ cards.

 

[dlgh7]

You didn't answer the most important part of my post. What stops GN (im just mentioning GN cause you brought this channel up specifically) from walking to his local Walmart or bestbuy or whatever, grab a card off the shelf like the REST OF US and do whatever the heck he wants with it. He can review it at 8k Ultra PT and nvidia can do absolutely nothing to stop him. So - what are we talking about here?

Nothing is stopping them. That is what Hardware Unboxed did while at Computex I believe. GN will probably buy a 5060 and do a review as well.

The main issue is that most of the time reviewers have a week or two with a product before it releases. So if your most trusted outlets don't have something it forces you as a consumer to wait for reviews or buy the product without knowing if it is good.

Now if that is something like a gaming console that is one thing. People do have brand loyalty. But with graphics cards there is a lot more involved as they are used for gaming, video and graphics work, productivity in general, livestreaming, etc. Again they are free to buy them sure but if every site or Channel had to do that either consumers are going to be annoyed with the reviewers or the fact that the company isn't sending them. That comes down to who is informed and how well.

I think in the case of GN Nvidia took it even further by saying they would stop access to engineers that GN has made videos with in the past. It is Vindictive behavior and honestly the behavior of unprofessional overly sensitive people that can't take criticism in an industry based around microscopic inspection of products. Nvidia should get rid of their PR team and their Executives if they can't grow up.

 

[NSR]

Can I ask WHY do we expect a 5060 to play cyberpunk maxed out with RT?

It's not that we expect it to do this, it already can.

The 5060, like most NVIDIA cards, has good ray tracing hardware. In the video, the guy is driving around at 60-70fps with some DLSS quality transformer model before performance degrades as VRAM is used up. Had the VRAM not been used up, he'd still be enjoying his experience.

I mean you do of course realize that there are cards that cost 3x and 4x as much and can't do that properly, right? We had 6800xt, 6900xt, 6950xt, 7800xt, 7900xt, 7900xtx - they all crap the bed on cyberpunk with RT. Yet here we are complaining that a 300$ card can't do it either while ignoring the 1k+ cards.

RDNA 2/3 were plenty criticised for this. If you wanted to use RT, you were encouraged to buy NVIDIA. We'd be hearing the same thing if RDNA 4 had not improved RT performance.

 

[JustBenching]

It's not that we expect it to do this, it already can.

The 5060, like most NVIDIA cards, has good ray tracing hardware. In the video, the guy is driving around at 60-70fps with some DLSS quality transformer model before performance degrades as VRAM is used up. Had the VRAM not been used up, he'd still be enjoying his experience.

So it turns out, it actually can't. So what's the issue...?

RDNA 2/3 were plenty criticised for this. If you wanted to use RT, you were encouraged to buy NVIDIA. We'd be hearing the same thing if RDNA 4 had not improved RT performance.

And if you want to use RT buy a 16gb card. Going from that to "therefore this card shouldn't exist and it's a waste of sand cause it can't max out every game (and now with RT included)" is a huge leap forward. Which isn't the kind of criticism that rdna 2 and 3 received. Nobody argue they are trash and amgreedia and wastes of sand cause they can't run RT or games maxed out.

 

[Bomby569]

This tech drama, as always, seems way overblown. It started when Nvidia said no more gpus if HUB didn't to RTX, and to be fair that question should never be at the table to begin with. If you want to review a card buy a card like the rest of us, go throw the experience like all of us, and review a resale product and not something that may be cherry picked.
You can't buy a card, write about it. You think it's too expensive, write about it. Do the consumer experience.

I guess now they went for GN, with no more interviews if they didn't do 4x, but again maybe don't ask them for stuff, that will always make you dependent on Nvidia in one way or another and will make your reviews questionable. I always assumed it was Nvidia that came to Steve and said "hey you can interview this guy" and if they don't come to you, don't ask for favour, there are no such thing as free lunches.

If they want to be journalists, investigators, independent, than act like it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I am not responding with ego. Just knowledge.

It kinda seems like it. The info you're offering is not relevant to the discussion and thus comes off like an ego stroke..

The video praises the raster performance highly as well as the DLSS feature set and the initial RT performance (60-70fps with DLSS quality).

To be fair, I didn't watch it. A lot of YouTubers are bitching and moaning on the subject the thumbnail spoke volumes and told me not to waste my time on it.

A comment under that video sharing a similar story:

Funny that, because I still have my RTX 2080 as well and and naturally even it still runs CyberPunk very well. It can do so at 4k with some settings turned down. My 2070 doesn't do 4k so good, but it does 1440p well. The 5060 performs better in every way to both the 2070 and the 2080. So let's do the math, shall we..

I understand these specific criticisms get annoying

VERY fricken annoying...

but anything that helps make a more informed decision is a plus.

That's just it, you people are NOT helping anyone. Users who are going to look at an 8GB card will understand going into the purchase that they need to manage their expectations and GFX settings. Budget Gaming 101. The continued naysaying nonsense is a waste of time, effort and patience.

 

[Hecate91]

This tech drama, as always, seems way overblown. It started when Nvidia said no more gpus if HUB didn't to RTX, and to be fair that question should never be at the table to begin with. If you want to review a card buy a card like the rest of us, go throw the experience like all of us, and review a resale product and not something that may be cherry picked.
You can't buy a card, write about it. You think it's too expensive, write about it. Do the consumer experience.

I guess now they went for GN, with no more interviews if they didn't do 4x, but again maybe don't ask them for stuff, that will always make you dependent on Nvidia in one way or another and will make your reviews questionable. I always assumed it was Nvidia that came to Steve and said "hey you can interview this guy" and if they don't come to you, don't ask for favour, there are no such thing as free lunches.

If they want to be journalists, investigators, independent, than act like it.

I guess it's all just drama if you refuse to believe a company would ever resort to anti-competitive tactics while being vengeful towards the tech press. GN, HW Unboxed, Paul's Hardware, Jaystwocents, LTT, Daniel Ownen, and others I'm probably missing all talked about Nvidia attempting to shut out any reviews of a product knowing it's mediocre and only causes stagnation for anyone on a budget.
Are all those people clickbait, dramabait,ragebait or whatever false claim people want to throw around now?

And the issue isn't buying a card, any top tech reviewer can easily go buy a card on launch day, the issue is getting a review out on launch day, all of the Nvidia sponsored "previews" will drown out any review that comes a week or so later, the average consumer will see the "preview" articles and buy based on a card being hyped up as an amazing value, just buy it because the more you buy the more you save.

There aren't any free lunches, Nvidia didn't even pay for it I'd assume, according to GN he had to pay to fly out for talks with Nvidia engineers. I find it very odd a multi-trillion dollar company doesn't want to pay for a flight so engineers can provide knowledge of how the tech works to the enthusiasts who might want to buy a shiny new GPU.
The threatening and vinditctive behavor doesn't help Nvidia any, it seems like a desperate attempt to hide the fact they don't about gaming and haven't since before the crypto hype.
And if Nvidia wants independent legitimate reviewers to have an unbiased assesment of a product, then you'd think Nvidia would be helping them with interviews and detailed analasys on hardware, not trying to blacklist the legitimate tech press completely.

 

[dlgh7]

That's just it, you people are NOT helping anyone. Users who are going to look at an 8GB card will understand going into the purchase that they need to manage their expectations and GFX settings. Budget Gaming 101. The continued naysaying nonsense is a waste of time, effort and patience.

That is far from accurate. If the marketing material that shows things like 300+ fps and what not with frame gen or DLSS didn't work on people Nvidia wouldn't pay someone to make them. Not everyone is a super informed DIY PC Builder. In fact I would expect Nvidia to sell way more 8gb GPU's in prebuilt computers at someplace like Best Buy alone then probably the whole DIY community as a whole. People that buy prebuilt computers are going to see the marketing material or hear it from the company selling the computer with the GPU already installed. They might watch one or two videos on YouTube if they are lucky. There is also a chance it is just a parent our teenager or someone else not super informed that hears the marketing material from a sales associate and makes their decision based on the pitch they are given.

It is naive to think every person is this super informed DIY PC Builder. It could be a young kid or young professional looking to be a livestreamer or Twitch Streamer, or someone that does Wedding videos or photography as a side hustle... etc. etc. etc.

edit: This is interesting. From Digital Foundry this morning. 2080ti beating 5060 7 years after release.

 

[lexluthermiester]

That is far from accurate.

That's your opinion.

If the marketing material that shows things like 300+ fps and what not with frame gen or DLSS didn't work on people Nvidia wouldn't pay someone to make them.

Moose muffins. The 5060/5060ti marketing contain no such statements.

We're done here.

 

[Bomby569]

And the issue isn't buying a card, any top tech reviewer can easily go buy a card on launch day, the issue is getting a review out on launch day, all of the Nvidia sponsored "previews" will drown out any review that comes a week or so later, the average consumer will see the "preview" articles and buy based on a card being hyped up as an amazing value, just buy it because the more you buy the more you save.

Integrity comes at a cost.

It really doesn't matter if others are saying yes to Nvidia, getting gifts or money from Nvidia, and getting a review first. Either was Steve from GN or Derbauer in their joint video that just confirmed that if the product is good the views will be much higher and don't depend on first day views.
Let's be honest here for a second, what they are concerned is losing those day one views, and they are willing to throw their integrity under the bus for it. Sure they want Nvidia to be fair and honest even when they have a sub-par product and i wanted to marry a supermodel and end world hunger, and yet here we are.

If this is about saving the poor souls that go rushing to buy day one or pre order, i doubt many of those souls can be saved. The same way the 4060 is still the most sold card despite all the videos from GN and HUB having to sell themselves to Nvidia in order to save these poor people.

Journalists don't complain about bad companies not being fair, they do their fuc**** job.

Didn't TPU's 5060 review come a few days late. Aren't we here? reading and commenting. Did you went to see all those videos and decided you didn't need this?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Integrity comes at a cost.

Dishonesty in marketing costs more and is always harmful.

Journalists don't complain about bad companies not being fair, they do their fuc**** job.

This! It's called professionalism.

 

[JustBenching]

Let's be honest here for a second, what they are concerned is losing those day one views, and they are willing to throw their integrity under the bus for it.

I've been saying this for days but nope, ngreedia. Independent journalist that totally depends on companies sending him free and early samples. Yeah...

 

[Luminescent]

edit: This is interesting. From Digital Foundry this morning. 2080ti beating 5060 7 years after release.

It seems to me or DF is promoting Nvidia ? the choice of games, Cyberpunk 2077 - Nvidia tech demo for years, Alan wake 2 - Nvidia heavily sponsored game and tweaked recently with RTX megageometry, Black Myth Wukong - practicly made for Nvidia, even Alex from DF joked how biased developers were in a podcast.
In another video they used these games to compare 5060 to PS5, come on, we know PS5 GPU is low end by today standards but to use these games is just nasty.
I wonder how will they spin the "Nvidia GeForce RTX 5060 Review: Better Than PS5 GPU Perf - But 8GB Is Not Enough" review when Grand Theft Auto VI hits PC in 2027 or something like that, i don't know how that game will work on 8gb GPU, Nvidia needs to summon the mother of all AI to compress the shit out of those textures to fit in 8gb.
That's another thought, is any 8gb GPU, GTA VI ready ? i bet you they aren't, buy 5060/9060 xt 8gb now and 2 years from now, damn, it doesn't work well in GTA VI, i need to upgrade my GPU, AMD and Nvidia - mission accomplished.

 

[JustBenching]

It seems to me or DF is promoting Nvidia ? the choice of games, Cyberpunk 2077 - Nvidia tech demo for years

Fun fact, cyberpunk works better on AMD gpus than the average game does. Proof that nvidia is actually playing fair.

The 9070xt is on average slower than a 5070ti, 4080 and 4080super. On cyberpunk? Beats them all and not by a small margin. Same applies to all amd gpus btw, nvidia sponsored games are incredibly optimized for amd hardware..

Spoiler

https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro/images/relative-performance-3840-2160.png

 

[lexluthermiester]

Fun fact, cyberpunk works better on AMD gpus than the average game does.

Raster? Yes. RTRT? Not so much.

Proof that nvidia is actually playing fair.

While true, they still have a definitive lead in RTRT performance.

 

[N/A]

I would only be concerned if it ran out of memory at low texture settings. I'm still not convinced. Medium, high and ultra settings on the 5060 is asking too much.