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Well, i never said they can't be used for anything besides gaming. If he is mainly useing the system for gaming, the benchmarks even prove that Nehalem isn't that great. When Nehalem comes out the Core 2's wont be outdated. If he is just trying to generally future proof his system(like, has nothing to do with gaming or anything) and just wants the best, then yes a Nehalem system would be ideal.

But, Nehalem has proven itself in most muli core apps.(and yes this is based on benchmarks) but as for gaming(yes PC can do more, but i am talking about gaming right now) there is nothing it can do that most of the 45nm Quads can't. BUT i do agree that if he does alot more CPU core heavy things(CS3, Photoshop and what not) yes the Nehalem will clearly come out on top. If you do all that(run CPU heavy programs that can use all cores) plus game Deimos, then i say go Nehalem. But if you know for a fact that you are going to mainly use it for gaming and a bit of program CPU core heavy usage, there is nothing the Core 2's can't do that Nehalem can.

Yeah, I just was saying it wouldn't follow to say nehalem isn't good for games and then say a 45nm quad is. At worst they would be the same. And the bold remains to be seen. You may be right, it may not offer anything useful in games. However, depending on how this works w/ turning off some cores to give other's more power, it may actually have a lot more to offer than current quads, even in single-threaded apps, we'll just have to see. And there are other features that may indeed make nehalem superior to core 2's in more things than multi-core apps, we'll just have to wait and see if it comes together properly. I'm thinking it will.
 

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Yeah, I just was saying it wouldn't follow to say nehalem isn't good for games and then say a 45nm quad is. At worst they would be the same. And the bold remains to be seen. You may be right, it may not offer anything useful in games. However, depending on how this works w/ turning off some cores to give other's more power, it may actually have a lot more to offer than current quads, even in single-threaded apps, we'll just have to see. And there are other features that may indeed make nehalem superior to core 2's in more things than multi-core apps, we'll just have to wait and see if it comes together properly. I'm thinking it will.

I agree.;)
 

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Sorry i haven't replied. Glad to hear people are interested. I ran into a hurdle.. Flipplin 500 bucks in car repairs. The rig wont' be purchasable till late september/earlier october (For me birthday :p) Not to mention i have to spend another 500 on duty gear for my new job. BDU's, Fully kitted Duty belt + cuffs. I'm a correctional Officer. That stuff isn't cheap, thankfully it's all tax write off.
 
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how many sets of BDU's and what color/ pattern? what kinda accessories and stuff you need? I may have some stuff you could grab cheap, if not I can reference you to some dirt cheap places..
 
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and as for the delay... it'll save you some cash.. september/ october some nice price drops are coming down :)
 

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and as for the delay... it'll save you some cash.. september/ october some nice price drops are coming down :)

That's what I figured. I appreciate the offer for BDUs, but unless you're local I'm not gonna buy something from someone I don't know. :p No offense.
 
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That is unless ya know of a few cheaper websites? I know Copquest.com has decent prices. Saving 100 bucks on my duty belt compared to the local store.
 

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I use to work at Target....don't work there.:shadedshu
 

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I use to work at Target....don't work there.:shadedshu

Walmart before this job buddy.. FLippin walmart. You have no idea how happy i was when i quit. :toast:
 

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I'm new to this game. But I don't know what to go with. I"ve got a few good ideas, been reading here and there, talking to alot of friends. I just dont' know what to go with.

I think i'm gonna go with a Vista Ultimate 64 bit edition for my os. So here's the build I got in mind. Please edjucate me!

CPU: Core 2 Quad Q9300
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GFx: 9800GTX

I'm not gonna post all the extra crap, just the key components. My main thoughts are, should I spend a little extra and bother going to DDR3 ram? And what about the new Intel processors coming out later this year? I've considered just waiting, since i'll have to buy a new mobo/cpu if I plan on upgrading to the Intel I7's.

HD 4850 instead of the 9800GTX, 800 or 1066 ram instead of 1100 ram.
 
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I use to work at Target....don't work there.:shadedshu

I loved working for Target.

Then again, I worked at a DC---didn't have to deal with all them rascally customers.:laugh:
 
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That is unless ya know of a few cheaper websites? I know Copquest.com has decent prices. Saving 100 bucks on my duty belt compared to the local store.

OPSGEAR is based out of Nevada, and are highly dedicated to law enforcement and military personel, and offer discounts and free services to them. ( www.opsgear.com ) Their product selection is very nice, and their mechandise is decent to high quality, and fairly priced for most things. They have full duty belts with all compartments and add ons needed for around $60 for heavy duty nylon. If you subscribe to their newsletter and web updates via email, they send you promo codes for X dollars off your order or free shipping, and exclusive offers and pre-orders. you may also pick up orders directly.
 

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Yeah, Opsgear does have some good stuff. Only issue with that duty belt is all the stuff is the wrong style. And it's in Green. =P. I"m going All high end Bianchi. Though I will get my kevlars gloves from them.
 

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I loved working for Target.

Then again, I worked at a DC---didn't have to deal with all them rascally customers.:laugh:

lol, i was mostly Cart Attendant, which was very hard when it was hot, but at least we got to use the cart machine that makes it alot easier. But everyone kept stealing stuff alot and alot of people who were working there where taking cash out of the register(i could see them getting arrested while i was doing the carts outside:laugh:). But the job wasn't worth it for the pay.
 
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you can get different colors from them.. you can also go through blackhawk. blackhawk has some nice stuff, I have a few things from them and they're very rugged.
 

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you can get different colors from them.. you can also go through blackhawk. blackhawk has some nice stuff, I have a few things from them and they're very rugged.

The website only had OD Green, was sold out of whatever else as the set. =P. Almost all of that belt is not what I need. Or in the improper style. I appreciate the help in terms of trying to help me save cash. :toast: Though i will use that site for the Kevlar, and maybe a few other things. We shall have to see.
 

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Since i got nothing to talk about as of right now. Might as well talk about the rest of the rig. I am deciding on a case. As of right now. I want the Coolmaster Cosmos S.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119150
I like the Cosmos S because I like full towers and its the best looking full tower imo at the moment.

I've been thinking about a mid tower but I can't find one I actually like. Any case suggestions from the experienced users out there?

I thought about the smiladon but I'm not too fond of doors anymore.
 
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here's a link to my system on EVGA'S mod rigs so you can see a pic of the inside on my case with everything installed(except the case fans that go over the gfx card and cpu heatsink for pulling the heated air away from them. They fit and I have them installed and working, but if they were in place when I took the pic, that's all you would see).

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My planned resolution as of right now is 1680x1050. On a 20 inch monitor. So i doubt i'll be up to 1920/1200. So the 260 will get the job done then?


get a 4870... :)
 

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Since i got nothing to talk about as of right now. Might as well talk about the rest of the rig. I am deciding on a case. As of right now. I want the Coolmaster Cosmos S.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119150
I like the Cosmos S because I like full towers and its the best looking full tower imo at the moment.

I've been thinking about a mid tower but I can't find one I actually like. Any case suggestions from the experienced users out there?

I thought about the smiladon but I'm not too fond of doors anymore.

The CosmoS doesn't have good ventilation compared to others, it was mainly designed to be compatible for multiple liquid-cooling systems and to be quiet, which is overkill in your upgrading scenario. As for the noise, it uses noise-proof foam which conducts more heat inside the case, conducting 20 degrees more heat than other cases. What I would recommend you is that if you are looking for something that will get the job done efficiently and with style, I recommend either the Antec Three Hundred or the Antec Nine Hundred.

The Nine Hundred comes with 2 Front 120mm fans, 1 Back 120mm fan, 1 side fan slot for extra optional intake, and 1 whopping 140mm roof fan. It even includes a handy tool compartment on the top to store small tools. The case is ATX (like as if you will need E-ATX for a while), has a side window to keep eyes on the hardware, and all the fans glow with blue LEDs.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspxItem=N82E16811129021&Tpk=Nine Hundred

The Three Hundred, however, is the same thing but cheaper and slightly downgraded. No blue LEDs, no side window, no tool compartment, and instead of a 140mm roof fan it has a 120mm roof fan. The performance is barely anything different from the Nine Hundred but for nearly half the price. I highly recommend this case if you don't care about eye candy but care for your wallet. Its ATX supported as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

Take your pick, as these cases have a superb reputation. You can also upgrade to the bigger Twelve Hundred, which is a full tower Nine Hundred that only supports ATX, but it is overkill and beyond in your position as it stores up to 9 hard drives in orderly fashion. I only recommend this if you are planning to store tons of hard drives.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043&Tpk=twelve hundred
 
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The NZXT tempest has de-throned the antec 900 as cooling king for mid-towers imo, it has the same fans + 1 extra 140mm top fan, plus it is nearly as big as the 1200 and other full towers, wire management looks good, and priced well (about the same price as the 900, in some places cheaper, in some places more). Here it is at the egg, but check your local retailer cause I know microcenter is selling it for $90.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047

I'm thinking this will be my next case, although the cm 690 looks good too......
 
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My suggestions per experience, is the Antec 900 for mid tower, and Antec 1200 for full tower. I'm using the 1200 right now. 2 VERY nice cases as far as air flow and cooling. the 1200 also has phenominal wire management, and comes with all the fans you'll need, besides a CPU HSF :D
 
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I personally didn't like the RC-690, it didn't have enough air intake in my opinion..
 
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