6800LE vs X1600PRO

[cjoyce1980]

ATI X1600PRO 256MB 3DMark05 4.5k
nVidia 6800LE 128MB 3DMark05 4.1k

errrrr........is this right

As you know there is nothing to unlock on the X1600PRO but I can unlock my 6800LE from 8/4 to 16/5, (the other vertex shader doesnt work). I tried both of the cards with a fresh install each time. the specs of both read like this:-

6800LE 128Mb
Memory Bus Type: 64x4 (256 bit)
DirectX Compliance: 9.0c
OpenGL Compliance: 2.0
PS Version: 3.0
VS Version: 3.0
Fragment Pipelines: 8 (16)
Vertex Pipelines: 4 (6)
Texture Units: 8 (16)
Raster Operators 8 (16)
GPU: NV40
Interface: AGP 8X
Core Clock: 300 MHz
Memory Clock: 350 MHz (700 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 22.4 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 5120 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 5120 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 5120 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 400 MVertices/sec

X1600PRO 256Mb
Memory Bus Type: 32x4 (128 bit)
DirectX Compliance: 9.0c
OpenGL Compliance: 2.0
PS Version: 3.0
VS Version: 3.0
Fragment Pipelines: 12
Vertex Pipelines: 5
Texture Units: 4
Raster Operators 4
GPU: RV530
Interface: AGP 8X
Core Clock: 500 MHz
Memory Clock: 390 MHz (780 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 12.48 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 6000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 2000 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 2000 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 625 MVertices/sec

I memory can be a key factor in benchmarking, but it can make this much differences, with FEAR's performance test my X1600PRO only managers 2fps higher on average over my 6800LE. weird

 

[x800professor]

ATI X1600PRO 256MB 3DMark05 4.5k
nVidia 6800LE 128MB 3DMark05 4.1k

errrrr........is this right

As you know there is nothing to unlock on the X1600PRO but I can unlock my 6800LE from 8/4 to 16/5, (the other vertex shader doesnt work). I tried both of the cards with a fresh install each time. the specs of both read like this:-

6800LE 128Mb
Memory Bus Type: 64x4 (256 bit)
DirectX Compliance: 9.0c
OpenGL Compliance: 2.0
PS Version: 3.0
VS Version: 3.0
Fragment Pipelines: 8 (16)
Vertex Pipelines: 4 (6)
Texture Units: 8 (16)
Raster Operators 8 (16)
GPU: NV40
Interface: AGP 8X
Core Clock: 300 MHz
Memory Clock: 350 MHz (700 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 22.4 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 5120 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 5120 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 5120 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 400 MVertices/sec

X1600PRO 256Mb
Memory Bus Type: 32x4 (128 bit)
DirectX Compliance: 9.0c
OpenGL Compliance: 2.0
PS Version: 3.0
VS Version: 3.0
Fragment Pipelines: 12
Vertex Pipelines: 5
Texture Units: 4
Raster Operators 4
GPU: RV530
Interface: AGP 8X
Core Clock: 500 MHz
Memory Clock: 390 MHz (780 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 12.48 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 6000 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 2000 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 2000 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 625 MVertices/sec

I memory can be a key factor in benchmarking, but it can make this much differences, with FEAR's performance test my X1600PRO only managers 2fps higher on average over my 6800LE. weird

The x1600PRO is a pretty weak card. That sounds about right for its performance. A lot of people (including myself) have considered it for their final AGP card, but changed their minds after doing a little research. I went with an X800GTO with 16 pipes.

 

[cjoyce1980]

6800 series and the X800 are very similar in specification:-

6800
Memory Bandwidth: 22.4 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 5120 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 5120 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 5120 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 480 MVertices/sec

X800
Memory Bandwidth: 22.4 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 4800 Operations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 6400 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 4800 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 600 MVertices/sec

so i selected the 6800 card, as it was cheaper than a X800. ive alway been a ATI guy so looking at these specs and some benchmarks there was very little in it between these cards so rather than forking out the extra £45 ($90) i selected the 6800 card. im just surprised that the extra level of performance was not the big boost i was expecting plus i saw my mates X800XL the other day a i was not overally impressed. bring on DX10

 

[Ketxxx]

128MB cards just cant cut it these days, not enough onboard memory. what really limits a X1600 is its DDR speed, you should start to notice significant FPS increases as you clock it up, at stock, yes its a weak card, OCd, its not that bad, though in todays modern games and shit programming you need a powerhouse of a card just to run the game at anything which can be considered even semi acceptable.

 

[x800professor]

128MB cards just cant cut it these days, not enough onboard memory. what really limits a X1600 is its DDR speed, you should start to notice significant FPS increases as you clock it up, at stock, yes its a weak card, OCd, its not that bad, though in todays modern games and shit programming you need a powerhouse of a card just to run the game at anything which can be considered even semi acceptable.

I miss the days when a 3 year old card played brand new games just fine. Now, game producers are working directly with the card manufacturer’s (mostly NVIDIA) and BAM! You need a new card about every 9 months.

 

[powerup]

X1600Pro AGP 512MB that I own has:

4 pixel pipelines with 12 pixel shader units (3 Pixel shaders x 4 pipelines) and 5 vertex pipelines

If you volt mod the card, you can get the card to 688mhz (core) with good air cooling. Also the X1600Pro has the same PCB layout as the X1300Pro. Just use this to volt mod the card.