Improved Phenom II vs Bulldozer

[kid41212003]

Phenom II.5 (32nm) vs Bulldozer.

It's obvious that we can expect higher clock or more cores from a die sink of Phenom II.

 

[erocker]

There's a 32nm Phenom II? I don't get the point of this.

 

[brandonwh64]

There's a 32nm Phenom II?

I think hes just speculating but I may be wrong?

 

[Athlon2K15]

Its not gonna happen.Phenom is gone unless it becomes a 6 core APU

 

[Nesters]

If you look at Athlons on FM1, yes, they should be able to beat Bulldozer.

 

[pantherx12]

Phenom II.5 (32nm) vs Bulldozer.

It's obvious that we can expect higher clock or more cores from a die sink of Phenom II.

a 32nm phenom could of been 10-12 cores with room for IPC tweaks.

So I'd said 32nm phenom would of wrecked bulldozer.


Bulldozer on paper should win mind you, but it didn't fufill it's promise of using less resources (transistors) for similar performance.


It has over twice the transistors of a phenom x6 and barely outperforms it.

 

[Batou1986]

if you don't mind a slight derail how do x4,X6,BD stack up in real world say bf3 with 8gb ram and 6870?

are the extra cores/architecture worth the $

 

[kid41212003]

if you don't mind a slight derail how do x4,X6,BD stack up in real world say bf3 with 8gb ram and 6870?

are the extra cores/architecture worth the $

Against what? Your E8400?

Bf3 is heavily threaded - expect huge performance improvement.

 

[Grings]

I think amd should Make unlocked FM1 chips, that architecture has just as much chance of competing with (1155) Sandybridge as the Bulldozer, and at least has an area (on die graphics) where it is better than Intel's offering

 

[btarunr]

In theory it looks quite good. If AMD could shrink Deneb to 32 nm and set clocks well over 4.00 GHz with the capability to OC over 5 GHz. In theory.

What's more probable is AMD shrinking Regor silicon to 32 nm for cost-cutting reasons, and to increase activity on the GloFo 32 nm fab.

 

[xenocide]

In theory it looks quite good. If AMD could shrink Deneb to 32 nm and set clocks well over 4.00 GHz with the capability to OC over 5 GHz. In theory.

What's more probable is AMD shrinking Regor silicon to 32 nm for cost-cutting reasons, and to increase activity on the GloFo 32 nm fab.

I thought they were dropping GloFo? Or was that just speculation?

 

[btarunr]

I thought they were dropping GloFo? Or was that just speculation?

They were dropping it just for certain 28 nm APUs. GloFo manufacturing 32 nm CPUs won't change.

 

[MaxAwesome]

Against what? Your E8400?

Bf3 is heavily threaded - expect huge performance improvement.

Final version of BF3 is dual threaded, at best.

http://benchmark3d.com/battlefield-3-benchmark

 

[erocker]

Final version of BF3 is dual threaded, at best.

http://benchmark3d.com/battlefield-3-benchmark

Dual core = 100% usage

Quad core = 60% usage.

More than dual threaded. It's called load balancing. That Dual core at 100% usage is going to suffer as it has other things to run besides the game. And unfortunately they don't make a dual core equivilent to a 2500K.

 

[John Doe]

Besides, the E8400 or let's say dual core is just slow for the FrostBite engine. We already saw how dual cores did in BC2. This game (BF3) isn't like most others. It needs a fair amount of CPU power, so he definately would see an improvement with any quad. Let it be Phenom, Intel, red, yellow...