NVIDIA to Unveil GeForce GTX TITAN P at Gamescom

[robal]

GP100 based ?
I thought they'll make both TITAN and 1080Ti out of GP102.
Is there any use for those FP64s on a GPU ?

 

[laszlo]

That GP102 is gonna be a monster!

especially a price monster ! they should call it TITAN ROYW (rip off your wallet) or TITAN KFS (kidney for sale)

 

[$ReaPeR$]

GTX 1080 Ti will be an $849-999 product, Titan P could be $1349 for 12GB and $1799 for 16GB. Source: My magic ass.

i would agree with you magical ass! this card is still irrelevant for 99% of users anyway so the price doesnt really matter..

 

[Parn]

So not even 1080Ti is going to have HBM2 then?!

For me in order to have a more compact high-end graphics card, I may have to wait for the next generation. Hopefully by then HBM would have worked its way down to the x80 line.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I have never seen anyone as miserable as owners of titan gpus once $300 gpus next year beats their gpu

I'm sorry what? do you know anyone who actually owns titan GPUS?

Especially people that can afford dual titans, the price isnt an issue. They have no problem with upgrading their titans every year to continue to be on the bleeding edge of performance.

The only titan that could fit into that catagory was the titan black, being so upstaged by the titan x. But I dont know any miserable titan or titan X owners. Know of a few happy ones though.

 

[GhostRyder]

GTX Titan : P

That's exactly what first came to mind for me lol.


I am not sure about the name even though I can guess where it came from. But then again it's just a name, let's see this thing in action!

 

[fedstryale]

Cool stuff! However considering the current prices for 1080's, I am even afraid to look in the direction of the price of this thing.

I am certain that people who will benefit the most from this one will be 2160p gamers (stable 60fps for 2160p anyone? ) As one 1080 wipes the floor with 1440p resolution (at least for the time being).

No. I am on 144hz@1440p monitor and fulfilling stable 144fps@1440p has a long long way to go. Even my lowest standard of stable 120fps@1080p cannot be achieved by one gtx1080 for many games. BTW, motion blur reduction desperately need the minimum fps over 120fps ,which is really hard for the top CPUs and GPUs today.

 

[EarthDog]

Let the next round of TPU's "He said, she said..." begin.

This is after all not an Nvidia announcement, rather another 'leak'.

But its in the news section..... oh wait.......................................

 

[Fluffmeister]

especially a price monster ! they should call it TITAN ROYW (rip off your wallet) or TITAN KFS (kidney for sale)

And it will sell a lot too, no doubt just to piss you off

 

[qurotro]

I'm sorry what? do you know anyone who actually owns titan GPUS?

Especially people that can afford dual titans, the price isnt an issue. They have no problem with upgrading their titans every year to continue to be on the bleeding edge of performance.

The only titan that could fit into that catagory was the titan black, being so upstaged by the titan x. But I dont know any miserable titan or titan X owners. Know of a few happy ones though.

Happy one here I can only afford one Titan X though, but I'm still having 80%+performance as the new 1080, more importantly, I‘ve enjoyed this performance more than a year which is awesome..

 

[xorbe]

I have never seen anyone as miserable as owners of titan gpus once $300 gpus next year beats their gpu

Oh look it's mango from [H]. Only posts to tear down other people.

 

[matar]

if GTX Titan P is released this holiday ( November ) @ $999 with 16GB HBM or even GDDR5X its a better deal then GTX 1080 even at $300 more.

 

[mcraygsx]

Amazing Pascal is going full speed ahead unlike previous generations. But I am still going to hold on until we see Ti version of Pascal. It cannot be too far off maybe Q1 2017 release for 1080 T1?

 

[Deleted member 50521]

Well damn that would be a beast of a card. If it comes in a reasonable price range it will sell like crazy.

AMD is doomed this year. I seriously doubt that VEGA will even touch 1080, let alone this monster.

 

[mcraygsx]

Well damn that would be a beast of a card. If it comes in a reasonable price range it will sell like crazy.

AMD is doomed this year. I seriously doubt that VEGA will even touch 1080, let alone this monster.

Right on, AMD will be playing catchup games this year and maybe in 2017 as well. But I hope AMD proves me wrong.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

Right on, AMD will be playing catchup games this year and maybe in 2017 as well. But I hope AMD proves me wrong.

By the current trend AMD won't catch up any time soon. Zen might be another bummer as well. Less R&D budget and bad marketing(look how the RX480 PCI-E fiasco got). It is amazing they are still alive.

 

[the54thvoid]

Well damn that would be a beast of a card. If it comes in a reasonable price range

Not a mother pumping chance the price will be reasonable.

But it will still sell like hotcakes......

 

[Solidstate89]

Fake, because AMD has HBM2 priority. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

nVidia isn't sourcing HBM2 memory from the same company that AMD is. nVidia is going with Samsung, and AMD is of course still working with Hynix.

 

[zAAm]

Is it just me or does that look like 16 phase power? Seems a bit overkill no?

 

[DarkIdeals]

Well whatever the actual configuration of the 1080Ti is, you can bet it will follow the same performance metric as the 980Ti over the 980.

A 1080Ti will basically be around 30% faster than a 1080 and come with 12GB of Vram.

Oh, and that will still not be enough to play 4K at 60fps+ on a single card, you'll have to wait until the next generation of cards in 2018 for that to be possible.

No offense but your figures are pretty far off.

The GTX 1080 has 2,560 cuda cores and a 256 bit bus of GDDR5X, which gives it a 320gb/s memory bandwidth

(the equation for memory bandwidth on any type of DDR type RAM is as follows:

(bus width / 8 ) * memory frequency = bandwidth)

Therefore on the GTX 1080 we calculate it as so: (256 bit / 8 = 32) * 10,000mhz = Bandwidth)
32 * 10,000mhz = 320gb/s (exactly what 1080 has)


So the GTX 1080 TI with 384 bit bus of GDDR5X would have: (384 / 8 = 48) * 10,000 = Bandwidth
48 * 10,000 = 480gb/s!!!


So not only does the GTX 1080 TI have ~50% more cores (~3,840) Combine that with a whopping 50% extra memory bandwidth (at MINIMUM! As it's been confirmed that GDDR5X CAN hit ~12,000mhz; so if they crank the VRAM on the 1080 TI to 12,000mhz the bandwidth raises to (384 / 8 = 48) * 12,000mhz = 576gb/s!! Which is a massive EIGHTY PERCENT FASTER BANDWIDTH compared to GTX 1080's 320gb/s!

So how exactly is it that you think a card with between 40% and 50% more cores, and between 50% and 80% more memory bandwidth, will only be 30% faster?!?!?!?

Bare minimum it will be around 50% faster, which is what these leaks actually said was the rough performance of the GP102 chip. You're looking at possibly 60% faster if it does indeed use 12,000mhz G5X VRAM. And with the 1080 being ~25-30% faster than a 980 TI, that means the 1080 TI will likely (just like the 1080 and 1070) be as fast as SLI of its predecessor (i.e. GTX 1070 was as fast as 970 SLI in most cases. GTX 1080 was as fast as 980 SLI in most cases. And GTX 1080 TI will likely be as fast as GTX 980 TI SLI!!)

 

[DarkIdeals]

Honestly my overall predictions once Pascal was first announced seems to be mostly coming true.

I noticed the HUGE similarities between Pascal's release and the GTX 600 series Keplar release.


1) GTX 680 and 670 were the first 28nm GPU's. GTX 1080 and 1070 are first 16nm GPUs

2) Due to low yields on new process node, you will see fairly large supply shortages; just like on the 600 series where it took MONTHS for supply to stabilize enough to meet even a portion of market demand

3) Low power consumption compared to past cards. Compare 980 TI and TITAN X's 250w TDP to GTX 1080's 180w TDP, it's a large increase in efficiency, along with a drastic increase in clock speed to go with it! Same with 600 series: GTX 680 had a significantly lower TDP and power consumption than the UBER hot 480 and still pretty hot 580.


Then if you assume that Nvidia will follow their tried and true 600 and 700 series release schedule this all makes sense:


GTX 600 Series =

Start 28nm GPU manufacturing

GK104 GTX 680 = 1,536 cuda cores. 2GB GDDR5 VRAM, 1006mhz 1058mhz boost, 256 bit, 6000mhz, 192gb/s bandwidth

A few months later =

GTX TITAN GK110 comes out: 2,688 cuda cores. 6GB GDDR5 VRAM, 837 876mhz boost, 384 bit, 6000mhz, 288.4gb/s bandwidth


The following year =

GTX 700 series launches!

GK210 GTX 780 = 2304 cuda cores, 3GB GDDR5 VRAM, 863-900mhz boost, 384 bit, 6000mhz, 288.4gb/s bandwidth

GK210 GTX 780 TI = 2880 cuda cores, 3GB GDDR5 VRAM, 875-928mhz boost, 384 bit, 7000mhz, 336gb/s bandwdith





So my prediction was as follows:


Q2 2016 = GP104 launches with GTX 1080 = 2,560 cuda cores, 8GB GDDR5X VRAM, 1607-1733mhz boost, 256 bit, 10,000mhz, 320gb/s bandwidth

Q4 2016 = GP102 launches with GTX 1080 TI or TITAN model = 3,584 cuda cores, 16GB GDDR5X VRAM, 384 bit, 10,000mhz, 480gb/s bandwidth


Q2 2017 = GP100 "GTX 1180" launches = 3,840 cuda cores, 12GB HBM2 VRAM, 3072 bit, ??? mhz, ~683gb/s bandwidth

GP100 GTX 1180 TI = 4,480 cuda cores, ,12GB HBM2 VRAM, 4096 bit, ??? mhz, ~1tb/s bandwidth (1024gb/s)



And honestly it appears to be coming true for the most part. My specs on the upcoming 1080 TI/TITAN and the 1180/1180 TI etc.. are based on the exact same "ratio math" that the 600 and 700 series followed. For example, the GTX 780 has 2304 cores compared to 1536 on the 680; thats exactly 50% more cores; and matches up with the 1080 having 2,560 cores which is exactly 50% less than the 3,840 cores that the pascal TITAN P or 1080 TI etc.. will have. And the GTX 780 TI has 2880 cores compared to the 2304 cores on the 780; which is a 25% increase in cores; which matches EXACTLy with the 4,480 cores i predicted for the "1180 TI".

Of course there's still a fair bit of speculation, but with the GTX 1080 TI/ TITAN P or whatever they're calling it, being released SO soon after 1080; i'm almost POSITIVE that this is the type of plan Nvidia is going for. The most important thing about doing it this way, is that adding in a "pascal refresh 1100 series" will "hold us over" until Volta in 2018 which likely ended up with delays since it was moved up from ~2016-2017 original planned release for volta. I'm betting on Volta being similar to Pascal too! focusing far more on energy efficiency and architectural mastery/improvement.

 

[xorbe]

780 -> 2304 cores
980 -> 2048 cores
1080 -> 2560 cores
1180 -> you predict 3840 cores?

 

[abbask09]

Well whatever the actual configuration of the 1080Ti is, you can bet it will follow the same performance metric as the 980Ti over the 980.

A 1080Ti will basically be around 30% faster than a 1080 and come with 12GB of Vram.

Oh, and that will still not be enough to play 4K at 60fps+ on a single card, you'll have to wait until the next generation of cards in 2018 for that to be possible.

The 1080 is already able to run 4k at ~60fps. i agree, sometimes at ultra settings it can drop to 50's or even 40's in extreme stress, but the 1080ti will MOST LIKELY be able to run 4k at 60fps.

 

[abbask09]

the 1080 can already run 4k 60fps or if it cant in certain situations, its dang close. the 1080ti MOST LIKELY will be able to run 4k 60fps.

 

[abbask09]

Titan with 16GB & 4096bit
GTX1080Ti with 12GB & 3072bit

Sounds like what I think is coming from the large Pascal GPU.

nah, the 1080ti is most likely not coming with hbm2. sadly.