looking for high end gaming monitor

Hayder_Master · Aug 31, 2016

Hello everyone

i am asking help to find over kill gaming monitor, i have Asus ROG swift with 27" tn 144hz 1ms 2k gsync this one

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MSOND8C/?tag=tec06d-20

and want to upgrade with something have those specification:

- curved monitor, better it will be over 30" like 35", 144hz and above, 4K display resolution if the rest spec. found np if 2k, IPS panel, better with Gsync cuz i using Nvidia Gpu now, less than 5 ms response time.

i find some acer predator's but still don't have them all, maybe i miss one and you will help me with that.

thanks a lot dears

EarthDog · Aug 31, 2016

Sorry... is there anything better than the ROG Swift? That isn't IPS?

You will not find 4K over 60Hz at this time, so that is out...

Acer predator perhaps?

trog100 · Aug 31, 2016

i dont think a bigger better curved 4 K rog swift exists.. something will be missing on all the alternative..

trog

Countryside · Aug 31, 2016

Thats a good question because at the moment ROG and Predator are the top ones but also this is a high quality one Dell ultrasharp up3216q but damn it has 6ms response.

Hayder_Master · Aug 31, 2016

EarthDog said:
Sorry... is there anything better than the ROG Swift? That isn't IPS?

You will not find 4K over 60Hz at this time, so that is out...

Acer predator perhaps?

trog100 said:
i dont think a bigger better curved 4 K rog swift exists.. something will be missing on all the alternative..

trog

the one i have is 27" tn 144hz 1ms 2k gsync

i found 100hz with oc 4k from acer and the new swift maybe it will be my chose if i did not find more hz than 100

Hayder_Master · Aug 31, 2016

Countryside said:
Thats a good question because at the moment ROG and Predator are the top ones but also this is a high quality one Dell ultrasharp up3216q but damn it has 6ms response.

maybe it's ok with 6ms but it's 60hz and not curved

lorraine walsh · Aug 31, 2016

Acer Predator X34
fits up to your mentioned specs. Also is curved with 34" screen, but on the pricey side at around $1300.

P4-630 · Aug 31, 2016

You need to upgrade your graphics cards if you plan to game on 4K.

Hayder_Master · Aug 31, 2016

lorraine walsh said:
Acer Predator X34
fits up to your mentioned specs. Also is curved with 34" screen, but on the pricey side at around $1300.

it's overclocked 100hz max refresh rate

lorraine walsh said:
Acer Predator X34
fits up to your mentioned specs. Also is curved with 34" screen, but on the pricey side at around $1300.

forget my old system details in profile did not update it, i have gtx1080 and plan for another one

Bill_Bright · Aug 31, 2016

Make sure you really, I mean REALLY want a curved monitor. They demand a premium price for no better "quality" image. They have a pinpoint viewing angle and optimal viewer distance. This means for the best view, you have to keep your head almost frozen in the exact right position. This may be fine when relaxing and watching a movie but do you sit still while playing a game? And if ever there is more than one person viewing, forgetaboutit!

There are many curved monitor buyers who, once the "novelty" wore off and they are finally being honest with themselves, wish they bought 2 (or 3) nice traditional top quality monitors instead.

This is just one of several similar articles out there raising the same doubts.

Black Haru · Aug 31, 2016

Hayder_Master said:
the one i have is 27" tn 144hz 1ms 2k gsync

i found 100hz with oc 4k from acer and the new swift maybe it will be my chose if i did not find more hz than 100

Please link that. The reason you can't find any monitors that match your specs is because they dont exist. 4k @ 60hz is the max possible with displayport 1.2. Its a bandwidth limit and you cant "oc" around it.

Your card supports DP 1.3, but the monitors just arent here yet.

As for response time, look into reviews on that one. Those numbers are almost never accurate (some 1ms panels will get beaten by 5ms pannels)
And remember, that is Pixel response time and Not input lag. Your pixel response time could be a true 1ms, but if the panel has terrible input lag it wont matter.

EarthDog · Aug 31, 2016

depends on what the "1ms" is covering... GTG or other as to what 'beats' what.

Black Haru · Sep 1, 2016

EarthDog said:
depends on what the "1ms" is covering... GTG or other as to what 'beats' what.

the issue is that there is no true testing standard, and there isn't much pressure for companies to be honest on their spec sheets.

trog100 · Sep 1, 2016

Hayder_Master said:
the one i have is 27" tn 144hz 1ms 2k gsync

i found 100hz with oc 4k from acer and the new swift maybe it will be my chose if i did not find more hz than 100

i have the later rog swift.. 27 inch 1440 165 hrz ips panel with a 4ms response time.. its also gsync.. how it compares to other high end gaming monitors i havnt a clue because i havnt tried them..

trog

Hayder_Master · Sep 15, 2016

Bill_Bright said:
Make sure you really, I mean REALLY want a curved monitor. They demand a premium price for no better "quality" image. They have a pinpoint viewing angle and optimal viewer distance. This means for the best view, you have to keep your head almost frozen in the exact right position. This may be fine when relaxing and watching a movie but do you sit still while playing a game? And if ever there is more than one person viewing, forgetaboutit!

There are many curved monitor buyers who, once the "novelty" wore off and they are finally being honest with themselves, wish they bought 2 (or 3) nice traditional top quality monitors instead.

This is just one of several similar articles out there raising the same doubts.

so you think i should tr to play on curved one first before i buy it? cuz yes better gaming is my main reason here for buy thy new monitor

Black Haru said:
Please link that. The reason you can't find any monitors that match your specs is because they dont exist. 4k @ 60hz is the max possible with displayport 1.2. Its a bandwidth limit and you cant "oc" around it.

Your card supports DP 1.3, but the monitors just arent here yet.

As for response time, look into reviews on that one. Those numbers are almost never accurate (some 1ms panels will get beaten by 5ms pannels)
And remember, that is Pixel response time and Not input lag. Your pixel response time could be a true 1ms, but if the panel has terrible input lag it wont matter.

and any advice even with 5 ms gaming monitor ? i am still confused

Jetster · Sep 15, 2016

Ultra Wide Curved would be cool but I don't think they make a 144Hz

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-38...eneric_k0726&gclid=CLCzs6jukM8CFQhsfgod6_UBdA

Wait look a this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C83BE6U/?tag=tec06d-20

Black Haru · Sep 15, 2016

Hayder_Master said:
so you think i should tr to play on curved one first before i buy it? cuz yes better gaming is my main reason here for buy thy new monitor

and any advice even with 5 ms gaming monitor ? i am still confused

Response times that are listed on spec sheets are pixel response times (how fast can any given pixel change) its an important spec, but it's not the same as input lag (the amount of time it takes the monitor to register input such as mouse movement or typing etc.)
Input lag is almost never listed in any spec sheet. Most gaming monitors have input lag within acceptable margins, but a few dont. For extremely fast paced or twitchy games this can be a deal breaker.

A 5ms response time is theoretically fine. But looking at reviews will tell you if its actually fine or not (manufacturers fudge this number a lot)

Hayder_Master · Sep 18, 2016

Jetster said:
Ultra Wide Curved would be cool but I don't think they make a 144Hz

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-38...eneric_k0726&gclid=CLCzs6jukM8CFQhsfgod6_UBdA

Wait look a this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C83BE6U/?tag=tec06d-20

the LG is free sync not gsync
and the asus one still think about it

Black Haru said:
Response times that are listed on spec sheets are pixel response times (how fast can any given pixel change) its an important spec, but it's not the same as input lag (the amount of time it takes the monitor to register input such as mouse movement or typing etc.)
Input lag is almost never listed in any spec sheet. Most gaming monitors have input lag within acceptable margins, but a few dont. For extremely fast paced or twitchy games this can be a deal breaker.

A 5ms response time is theoretically fine. But looking at reviews will tell you if its actually fine or not (manufacturers fudge this number a lot)

thanks that's interesting i understand now, so i was know the the response time is the idea of input lag, now it's clear. so bad input lag=blur with fast movement in games am i right ?

Recon-UK · Sep 18, 2016

As mentioned.

ROG SWIFT, crem dela crem of high refresh rate gaming.

Black Haru · Sep 18, 2016

Hayder_Master said:
the LG is free sync not gsync
and the asus one still think about it

thanks that's interesting i understand now, so i was know the the response time is the idea of input lag, now it's clear. so bad input lag=blur with fast movement in games am i right ?

Or it might be more subtle, it might feel like you have a high ping even when you dont. Just a tiny delay in everything you do.

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