Neptune-sized planet dubbed 'Planet X' DOES exist beyond Pluto (POLL ADDED)

[dorsetknob]

FordGT90Concept Puts Metaphoric Foot in Mouth" Snigger"

“The atom can't be seen, yet its existence can be proved. And it is simple to prove that it can't ever be seen

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=g...X&ved=0ahUKEwjGicfxuODPAhXBK8AKHfryCMMQsAQIGw

Boron Atoms

Watch Atoms of Gold on FeO Move Under an Electron Microscope

More Proof you can see atoms

 

[FordGT90Concept]

It was said 80 years ago...

 

[R-T-B]

Also, electron microscopes don't operate on light wavelengths, do they? If I am not mistaken that's generally how we "see" things so it may be misleading to say we can directly "see" an atom with one.

 

[dorsetknob]

The Large Synoptic Survey Telescope might find it when construction completes (2019).

Still untill science finds and confirms it Exists its just speculation

 

[R-T-B]

Not called a planet b/c of its extreme orbit.

Technically, as long as it "clears it's orbit" it can do loop-de-loops for all the IAU cares.

Still untill science finds and confirms it Exists its just speculation

There's a point where speculation becomes close enough.

You sound scarily like the people who like to point out that evolution is only a "theory"

 

[dorsetknob]

Technically, as long as it "clears it's orbit" it can do loop-de-loops for all the IAU cares.

Jupiter has not Cleared its Orbit neither has Saturn

 

[R-T-B]

Jupiter has not Cleared its Orbit neither has Saturn

They have. Trojans don't count (they just sorta tag along and aren't major enough to effect the body). All that matters is that they don't directly cross paths with another body. (Pluto does, Neptune, though impact is impossible for some reason or another).

 

[dorsetknob]

Trojans don't count

They do count they are affected by planets Gravity but Planet cannot clear them from orbit
Politics and not science it seems decides what is a planet

 

[R-T-B]

They do count they are affected by planets Gravity but Planet cannot clear them from orbit
Politics and not science it seems decides what is a planet

Politics/people have always decided every definition ever, planet is no different.

What's important is that scientific or mathmatic laws are chosen to form that definition, and they are.

I'm pretty sure there is some relative mass thing they do that says trojans are excluded from "big boys" like Jupiter and Saturn because they are too small to have an impact.

It's all arbitrary though. It's not our fault planets don't come stenciled with the term on their surface for easy ID.

Personally, I prefer the term "bodies," but I've been told that makes our universe sound too much like a CIA crime scene.

 

[Drone]

More evidence for ninth planet roaming Solar System's outer fringes

The large and distant planet may be adding a wobble to the Solar System, giving the appearance that the Sun is tilted slightly.

Because Planet Nine is so massive and has an orbit tilted compared to the other planets, the solar system has no choice but to slowly twist out of alignment.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

That's pretty exciting, especially the last 10 seconds or so. He thinks they'll find it in a year and from the tilt, they may discover if there's more planets out there.

 

[Drone]

NASA is inviting the public to help search for possible undiscovered worlds in the outer reaches of Solar System and in neighboring interstellar space. A new website, called Backyard Worlds: Planet 9, lets everyone participate in the search by viewing brief movies made from images captured by NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) mission. The movies highlight objects that have gradually moved across the sky.

 

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[FordGT90Concept]

I agree, Planet X is better than Planet 9. Just because Pluto got demoted doesn't diminish the fact it was discovered and that it exists. My preference is that they decide on a name (Greek and Roman gods, like the rest of them). Even if they never find it and it doesn't exist, the search for it is still something notable in history. Personally, I'd go with Hermes, god of transitions and boundaries.

I hope they find it sooner rather than later.

 

[Divide Overflow]

It's a theory with some good evidence to support the hypothesis. It has it's detractors though, and I can't stand articles that claim theoretical science speaks with one voice.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I'd argue there's more ancillary evidence for Planet X than there was for Pluto and Pluto was eventually found. If Planet X isn't found, it leaves more questions than answers.

 

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Nasa is to host a major press conference on Wednesday to reveal a 'discovery beyond our solar system'.

The space agency says the secretive event, will 'present new findings on planets that orbit stars other than our sun, known as exoplanets'.


The event will take place on 22 February at 1pm New York time, and will be streamed live on NASA'S television station and on its website.

Although NASA has given no clue of the announcement, it has confirmed scientists from the Spitzer telescope will be present.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

New data about two distant asteroids give a clue to the possible 'Planet Nine'

https://phys.org/news/2017-02-distant-asteroids-clue-planet.html

 

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[Vayra86]

Call it a celestial body, and the whole discussion ends right there

 

[Drone]

No planet IX in sight but astronomers have already proposed the existence of planet X.


The plane of the Solar System is warped in the outer reaches of the Kuiper Belt, signaling the presence of an unknown object far beyond Pluto

According to the calculations, an unknown Mars-to-Earth-mass planetary object orbiting roughly 60 AU from the Sun on an orbit tilted by ~ 8° (to the average plane of the known planets) has sufficient gravitational influence to warp the orbital plane of the distant KBOs within ~ 10 AU to either side. The observed KBOs concentrated in a ring ~ 30 AU wide would feel the gravity of such a planetary mass object over time.

This rules out the possibility that the postulated object in this case could be the hypothetical Planet IX, whose existence has been suggested based on other observations. That planet is predicted to be much more massive (~ 10 Earth masses) and much farther out at 500-700 AU.