TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

Random Murderer · Feb 27, 2017

MaxiPro800 said:
Not really retro,but I just changed some stuff in my LGA775 main system (my daily driver actually) - I replaced the CPU (a old Pentium E2180) with a Pentium E5200 2.5GHz.

The thing that makes it quite overkill? I replaced my aged GT210 1GB GPU with a Radeon R7 240 2GB. The crazy thing? It does boot and works fine. It's pretty fast now compared to how it was working before with the E2180. We're talking about DDR2 stuff here

I wish you were in the US, I have three Q6600 G0 chips just lying around.

erek · Feb 27, 2017

Random Murderer said:
I wish you were in the US, I have three Q6600 G0 chips just lying around.

couldn't it be possible to build an AGP rig around that chip?

http://www.asrock.com/mb/VIA/775Dual-VSTA/

or is this a better platform?

http://www.asrock.com/mb/nvidia/am2nf3-vsta/

Random Murderer · Feb 27, 2017

erek said:
couldn't it be possible to build an AGP rig around that chip?

http://www.asrock.com/mb/VIA/775Dual-VSTA/

or is this a better platform?

http://www.asrock.com/mb/nvidia/am2nf3-vsta/

I actually have a 775Dual-VSTA board, it is possible to run AGP on it, but the VIA chipset had a ton of software issues and was generally a pain to use. I also have two P5W-DH Deluxe boards, a Rampage Formula, a DFI X48-T3RS, and an EVGA 790i Ultra SLI. LGA775 was a lot of fun.

erek · Feb 27, 2017

Random Murderer said:
I actually have a 775Dual-VSTA board, it is possible to run AGP on it, but the VIA chipset had a ton of software issues and was generally a pain to use. I also have two P5W-DH Deluxe boards, a Rampage Formula, a DFI X48-T3RS, and an EVGA 790i Ultra SLI. LGA775 was a lot of fun.

Hmm, what about a 4CoreDual-SATA2 ?
Hmm, that AM2NF3 board... it supposrts AM3 Phenom II X4 ... is that generally a better performer than the Core 2 Quads?

http://www.asrock.com/mb/nvidia/am2nf3-vsta/#CPU

dorsetknob · Feb 27, 2017

erek said:
couldn't it be possible to build an AGP rig around that chip?

Possible OF COURSE it is
My Bench Test rig for Retro Stuff is
Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
Its q6600 Cpu
Ram Either DDR400 or DDR2 800 (2 gig )
Has Both AGP8x and PCIx 16 (4x electrical ).

Asrock released a few variant boards in 775 that run AGP or PCIx

erek · Feb 27, 2017

dorsetknob said:
Possible OF COURSE it is
My Bench Test rig for Retro Stuff is
Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
Its q6600 Cpu
Ram Either DDR400 or DDR2 800 (2 gig )
Has Both AGP8x and PCIx 16 (4x electrical ).

Asrock released a few variant boards in 775 that run AGP or PCIx

Would the nForce3 250 / Phenom II X4 platform outperform that Core 2 Quad platform?

Random Murderer · Feb 27, 2017

erek said:
Hmm, what about a 4CoreDual-SATA2 ?
Hmm, that AM2NF3 board... it supposrts AM3 Phenom II X4 ... is that generally a better performer than the Core 2 Quads?

http://www.asrock.com/mb/nvidia/am2nf3-vsta/#CPU

I can't comment on AMD of that generation, I jumped straight from socket 939 to AM3+ in AMD.
In all good consciousness, I could not recommend either the 775Dual-VSTA nor the 4CoreDual-SATA2. They are essentially the same board and suffer from the same problems. Beyond the novelty of having DDR I and II on the same board and PCIe and AGP on the same board, these were budget boards designed to help people upgrade from AGP/DDR systems to PCIe/DDRII systems while using the same CPU and offering a CPU upgrade path. The idea was neat, but the implementation definitely left a lot to be desired.
Nowadays, if you're going to pick up one of those boards, be prepared to troubleshoot them and/or heavily modify them. These boards actually turned out to be decent overclocking boards, once you hard-modded several things on the board.

dorsetknob · Feb 27, 2017

don't know last AMD i had was a Durexon 800

but i personally doubt it

still got it archived on a shelf and it still boots and works

Mr.Scott · Feb 27, 2017

erek said:
Would the nForce3 250 / Phenom II X4 platform outperform that Core 2 Quad platform?

No, it will not.
I own both Asrock boards.
Bought and modded them both specifically to bench AGP cards.
I like the AMD board better but get better scores on the Intel board.

deflipe · Feb 28, 2017

P4, case thermaltake

deflipe · Feb 28, 2017

Boys !! I just trade a 500gb sata hard drive for this beautiful Gateway E-4200.

Has a Pentium II of 350mhz, Ati rage and sound Creative Vibra 16

erek · Feb 28, 2017

Finally received the replacement motherboard and installed it today (from Latvia) no bulging capacitors

erek · Mar 5, 2017

Here's the GPU-Z NV30 BIOS Dump: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B78JrnhrwKa3dFpnLVJibXloRUU/view?usp=sharing

erek · Mar 5, 2017

Mr.Scott said:
I can't believe you found one. What did you pay for that?
Seriously, it's easier to find a VooDoo 6000.

I spent 2 years posting in FS sections of forums before someone PMed me on [H]ard|OCP with the real deal. how much do you suspect it is worth or that I should have paid for it first before I reveal?

deflipe · Mar 5, 2017

Mr.Scott · Mar 5, 2017

erek said:
I spent 2 years posting in FS sections of forums before someone PMed me on [H]ard|OCP with the real deal. how much do you suspect it is worth or that I should have paid for it first before I reveal?

I know you did. I tour many of the same forums.
Worth is in the eye of the beholder. I know you were offering up to $200 at one point.
Actual worth of the card is probably less than $50 and that's being generous, but there just aren't many around so that increases the price for those that really want one.

erek · Mar 5, 2017

Mr.Scott said:
I know you did. I tour many of the same forums.
Worth is in the eye of the beholder. I know you were offering up to $200 at one point.
Actual worth of the card is probably less than $50 and that's being generous, but there just aren't many around so that increases the price for those that really want one.

$600 shipped is what i paid

dorsetknob · Mar 5, 2017

Mr.Scott said:
Worth is in the eye of the beholder. I know you were offering up to $200 at one point.

Recollect he was offering up to $300 here on the forums ( too much Derision from some )
Glad he has got what he wanted ( irrespective of what he payed).

erek · Mar 5, 2017

dorsetknob said:
Recollect he was offering up to $300 here on the forums ( too much Derision from some )
Glad he has got what he wanted ( irrespective of what he payed).

$600 Shipped is what I ended up paying

dorsetknob · Mar 5, 2017

Someone Some where on the various Forums is saying
"" Shit i got one of those could have mugged him for a nice profit""
Enjoy the Card

( and no i don't have one )

Mr.Scott · Mar 5, 2017

Too rich for my blood.
Enjoy that card.
I do not have one either.

P4-630 · Mar 5, 2017

erek said:
Finally received the replacement motherboard and installed it today (from Latvia) no bulging capacitors

Looking good! As new! Also the hot air gets blown right out of the case.
But damn, that noise, louder than my vacuum cleaner lol!

And that price... $600 :twitch:

Mr.Scott · Mar 5, 2017

dorsetknob said:
Someone Some where on the various Forums is saying
"" Shit i got one of those could have mugged him for a nice profit""

They did.

MaxiPro800 · Mar 8, 2017

I just got some stuff recently:

Frontier 8865KHA case
Allied AL-8400BTX 400W PSU
ASRock K7VT4A+ w/ Athlon 2500+
Marvo M309 Gaming Mouse
Segotep C-K108 Keyboard
Western Digital WD400BB 40GB HDD
Maxtor 4D40H2 40GB HDD
PS2 SCPH-77004 w/ 2 memory cards
nVidia Geforce MX440 64MB AGP8x

Ahhzz · Mar 11, 2017

Had to load up one of these

to see what I had left in these

And these going the way of the dodo shortly...

System Name	TOO MUCH RADIATOR! \| The TV Box a.k.a. The Shoebox
Processor	Core i7 4930K @ 4.5GHz \| Core i5 6600K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard	Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme \| Asus Z170i Pro Gaming
Cooling	Custom water on CPU and GPU, dual 360mm radiators \| Corsair H80i
Memory	4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-1600 \| 2x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-3000
Video Card(s)	Sapphire AMD R9 295x2 \| PowerColor AMD HD7970
Storage	Samsung SSD 830 256GB, various others \| 2x 1TB Seagate Barracudas in RAID1
Display(s)	Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 IPS \| Panasonic TC-L32E5 1080p IPS TV
Case	Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (stripped down to hold two radiators) \| Cooler Master Elite 130
Audio Device(s)	RM-DAC -> Xiang Sheng 708b -> Sennheiser HD650 \| HDMI sound device on 7970
Power Supply	LEPA G1600-MA 1600W \| Corsair CX750M 750W
Software	Win 10 64
Benchmark Scores	over 9000 BungholioMarks, "Bitchin' Fast"

System Name	Beaver's Build
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard	Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) - X570
Cooling	Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - 16-19-19-39
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition
Storage	Inland 1TB NVMe M.2 (Phison E12) / Samsung 950 Pro M.2 NVMe 512G / WD Black 6TB - 256M cache
Display(s)	Alienware AW3225QF 32" 4K 240 Hz OLED
Case	Fractal Design Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s)	Focusrite 2i4 USB Audio Interface
Power Supply	SuperFlower LEADEX TITANIUM 1600W
Mouse	Razer DeathAdder V2
Keyboard	Razer Cynosa V2 (Membrane)
Software	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	3dmark = https://www.3dmark.com/spy/32087054 Cinebench R15 = 4038 Cinebench R20 = 9210

System Name	TOO MUCH RADIATOR! \| The TV Box a.k.a. The Shoebox
Processor	Core i7 4930K @ 4.5GHz \| Core i5 6600K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard	Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme \| Asus Z170i Pro Gaming
Cooling	Custom water on CPU and GPU, dual 360mm radiators \| Corsair H80i
Memory	4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-1600 \| 2x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-3000
Video Card(s)	Sapphire AMD R9 295x2 \| PowerColor AMD HD7970
Storage	Samsung SSD 830 256GB, various others \| 2x 1TB Seagate Barracudas in RAID1
Display(s)	Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 IPS \| Panasonic TC-L32E5 1080p IPS TV
Case	Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (stripped down to hold two radiators) \| Cooler Master Elite 130
Audio Device(s)	RM-DAC -> Xiang Sheng 708b -> Sennheiser HD650 \| HDMI sound device on 7970
Power Supply	LEPA G1600-MA 1600W \| Corsair CX750M 750W
Software	Win 10 64
Benchmark Scores	over 9000 BungholioMarks, "Bitchin' Fast"

System Name	Beaver's Build
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard	Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) - X570
Cooling	Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - 16-19-19-39
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition
Storage	Inland 1TB NVMe M.2 (Phison E12) / Samsung 950 Pro M.2 NVMe 512G / WD Black 6TB - 256M cache
Display(s)	Alienware AW3225QF 32" 4K 240 Hz OLED
Case	Fractal Design Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s)	Focusrite 2i4 USB Audio Interface
Power Supply	SuperFlower LEADEX TITANIUM 1600W
Mouse	Razer DeathAdder V2
Keyboard	Razer Cynosa V2 (Membrane)
Software	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	3dmark = https://www.3dmark.com/spy/32087054 Cinebench R15 = 4038 Cinebench R20 = 9210

System Name	Beaver's Build
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard	Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) - X570
Cooling	Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - 16-19-19-39
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition
Storage	Inland 1TB NVMe M.2 (Phison E12) / Samsung 950 Pro M.2 NVMe 512G / WD Black 6TB - 256M cache
Display(s)	Alienware AW3225QF 32" 4K 240 Hz OLED
Case	Fractal Design Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s)	Focusrite 2i4 USB Audio Interface
Power Supply	SuperFlower LEADEX TITANIUM 1600W
Mouse	Razer DeathAdder V2
Keyboard	Razer Cynosa V2 (Membrane)
Software	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	3dmark = https://www.3dmark.com/spy/32087054 Cinebench R15 = 4038 Cinebench R20 = 9210

TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

Random Murderer

The Anti-Midas

erek

Random Murderer

The Anti-Midas

erek

dorsetknob

"YOUR RMA REQUEST IS CON-REFUSED"

erek

Random Murderer

The Anti-Midas

dorsetknob

"YOUR RMA REQUEST IS CON-REFUSED"

Mr.Scott

deflipe

Attachments

deflipe

Attachments

erek

erek

erek

deflipe

Mr.Scott

erek

dorsetknob

"YOUR RMA REQUEST IS CON-REFUSED"

erek

dorsetknob

"YOUR RMA REQUEST IS CON-REFUSED"

Mr.Scott

P4-630

Mr.Scott

MaxiPro800

Ahhzz

Moderator

System Name	Master
Processor	Pair of Xeon X5675's @ 4.3
Motherboard	SR-2 Classified
Memory	12 GB of Corsair Dominator GT's @ 2000 7-7-7-21
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX680
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 750

System Name	AlderLake / Laptop
Processor	Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1)
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan
Memory	32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MHz CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13
Video Card(s)	MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD
Display(s)	23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy
Case	Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion
Audio Device(s)	Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless
Keyboard	RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit
Software	Windows 11 / Windows 10
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock

System Name	Star Platinum
Processor	Intel Core i5-3470 3.20GHz
Motherboard	Gigabyte B75M-D3H
Cooling	EKL
Memory	16GB DDR3-1600
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GTX650 1GB GDDR5
Storage	2x Seagate ST31000340NS 1TB SATA II
Display(s)	Samsung 32 inch
Case	Delux MG760
Audio Device(s)	Realtek High Definition Audio + X-Fi XtremeGamer SB0730
Power Supply	FSP Bluestorm II 500W
Mouse	Marvo KM400 Mouse
Keyboard	Marvo KM400 keyboard
Software	Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 1809

System Name	OrangeHaze / Silence
Processor	i7-13700KF / i5-10400 /
Motherboard	ROG STRIX Z690-E / MSI Z490 A-Pro Motherboard
Cooling	Corsair H75 / TT ToughAir 510
Memory	64Gb GSkill Trident Z5 / 32GB Team Dark Za 3600
Video Card(s)	Palit GeForce RTX 2070 / Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X 4Gb
Storage	Hynix Plat P41 2Tb\Samsung MZVL21 1Tb / Samsung 980 Pro 1Tb
Display(s)	22" Dell Wide/24" Asus
Case	Lian Li PC-101 ATX custom mod / Antec Lanboy Air Black & Blue
Audio Device(s)	SB Audigy 7.1
Power Supply	Corsair Enthusiast TX750
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed Wireless / Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard	K68 RGB — CHERRY® MX Red
Software	Win10 Pro \ RIP:Win 7 Ult 64 bit