Intel’s HEDT Core i7-7000 Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X Details Leaked – Launching in August 2017

[RejZoR]

Even if they were totally on par, I'd still pick AMD. Only reason I was with Intel for last several years is because AMD was kinda really bad with the Bulldozer. But now that whole thing is behind us, I see no reason not to pick AMD again.

 

[m1dg3t]

Even if they were totally on par, I'd still pick AMD. Only reason I was with Intel for last several years is because AMD was kinda really bad with the Bulldozer. But now that whole thing is behind us, I see no reason not to pick AMD again.

It wasn't all that bad. Do you see any users unable to play games with their FX chips? I would've went with an FX instead of this i5 if there was an appropriate (IMO) iTX MoBo.

 

[P4-630]

And that is why i said it today on the Ryzen thread: choosing AMD = you can't afford an Intel CPU.

How do you feel if a cheaper AMD Ryzen processor will beat your intel CPU in the ground?
Just asking..

 

[Ebo]

If Intel is still going to do what they have done with their HEDT platform the last years, Im done with Intel.

When I bourght my X99 system it had been out 4 months, so I still had to pay a premium price, not only for Intel parts, but especially for DDR4 ram, at the time, since there was only 1 platform that could use it. Now things have changed, DDR4 is mainstream which means prices is down, but still the HEDT platform X99 costs much more than a X270 platform. I use my machine for heavy video editing besides gaming( just a little) which gave me an excuse for going for X99, but in gaming thats a whole other ballgame.

Any day of the week I will choose stability in daily use over anything regarding OC(possible instability). My system has never been OC'et and it never will, since it does its work perfect for my use on a daily basis.

If Ryzen can delivers better preformance for less money, thats the way Im gonna go and I will ditch my HEDT Intel system in just 1 second.

#1, you wrote that the new CPU's from Intel is going to be 140 watts, thats the same amount as my old I7-5820K wheres the innovations in that even with a smaller core size ?.

 

[P4-630]

If Ryzen can delivers better preformance for less money

I never had AMD CPU's before but I'm sure willing to try that if it delivers.

 

[RejZoR]

It wasn't all that bad. Do you see any users unable to play games with their FX chips? I would've went with an FX instead of this i5 if there was an appropriate (IMO) iTX MoBo.

I was even looking at their top of the line brutus, the FX 9590 But then decided not to go with it.

 

[las]

Intel better react before August, or alot of people will go with Ryzen.
Kaby Lake-X is pretty sad tho. X299 + a Quad core haha.. This is 2017.

Definitely picking up 1800X + 1600X to play around with.

 

[VR PC-BUILD]

If as expected R5 1600X comes in with a price tag of $259 and overclocked to 4.5GHz then i7-7700K will be out run by it as R5 1600X comes with 6Cores and 12Threads and costs $50 less than i7-7700K.

 

[RejZoR]

With 6/12 config, it goes against 5820K/6800K, not 7700K. Which, only has an upper hand because of absurd clock. But on 4/8 cores config. I think AMD's 4/8 CPU's will also be able to pull that off because they won't have thermal limits due to lower core count...

 

[AntDeek]

They are f**king slabs of silicon I do not understand the fanboyism from both sides. No one is better than anyone else for choosing intel or amd, they are microprocessors and you people treat them like religion

 

[las]

Pricewise it goes against the 7700K. 1600X will be very good bang for buck and crush the 7700K in most cpu intensive tasks/benchmarks. In gaming, they will probably be close overall. Ryzen's SMT is superior to Intel's HT and Ryzen has soldered heatspreader. Intel uses low quality and terrible TIM on pretty much all mainstream CPU's including 7700K which is why many people decide to delid.

Many NEW games already take advantage of 6+ cores, slower clocked Intel 6-8-10 cores beats 7700K in several games in ComputerBase's recent test, with lower coreclocks. I would never buy a quad today, not even for gaming. Especially not considering DX12 and Vulkan.

 

[AntDeek]

I would never buy a quad today, not even for gaming. Especially not considering DX12 and Vulkan.

Idk man, my 7600k clocked at 5GHz completes the Ryzen blender test in 41 seconds, only five seconds slower than Ryzen 1700.

 

[_JP_]

No one is better than anyone else for choosing intel or amd, they are microprocessors and you people treat them like religion

Life is boring these days, hence the fanaticism over consumer goods...also, there being only two players in this field helps it a lot. If there were a RED IC manufacturer, we as a community would accomplish the RGB, chromatic trifecta where optimum balance would be possible, blessing all the fanboys.

 

[VR PC-BUILD]

With 6/12 config, it goes against 5820K/6800K, not 7700K. Which, only has an upper hand because of absurd clock. But on 4/8 cores config. I think AMD's 4/8 CPU's will also be able to pull that off because they won't have thermal limits due to lower core count...

R5 1600X can easily beat 5820K or 6800K with no problems. But i7-7700K with min. 4.8GHz OC is a different matter. Only if 1600X is OC to 4.5GHz or above then it can compete with i7-7700K.
But as you said that if 4Core 8Thread Ryzen is able to beat i7-7700K which will be R5 1400X($189) then i7-7700K will be in really big trouble as there is huge price difference.

 

[thesmokingman]

We still don't know prices, so there's nothing to anticipate, so we will talk in august.

If you don't know anything yet, why so sorry?

Sorry if many AMD users will be disappointed.

 

[eidairaman1]

Why bother having skylake-x when kabylake-x is a minor revised skylake?

Well, I can, i just think it's a waste of money, just like most normal people would...

I'm in the same boat, why spend awful a lot when it will be replaced anyway? My rig can only be truly replaced by Ryzen or the even more pricey 2011-3.

 

[Vya Domus]

It wasn't all that bad. Do you see any users unable to play games with their FX chips? I would've went with an FX instead of this i5 if there was an appropriate (IMO) iTX MoBo.

People are surprised when I tell them I have 1060 with an almost 5 year old FX CPU and that can I max games out at 1080p and refuse to believe that , kind of sad but this is what a lot of people genuinely believed.

 

[eidairaman1]

People are surprised when I tell them I have 1060 with an almost 5 year old FX CPU and that can I max games out at 1080p and refuse to believe that , kind of sad but this is what a lot of people genuinely believed.

I was on my Athlon XP rig till about 2013. Just happens Ryzen appears to be a good part, my wifes getting the Vishera guts to replace a 2.4 P4 533.

 

[AntDeek]

I was on my Athlon XP rig till about 2013. Just happens Ryzen appears to be a good part, my wifes getting the Vishera guts to replace a 2.4 P4 533.

Replacing your wife's netburst nuclear reactor with a vishera reactor?

 

[RejZoR]

I really don't understand the point of Skylake architecture on HEDT. Unless only thing they plan on doing is offering same old 6 and 8 cores with Skylake clocks of 4.2 GHz. And even then, unless you have a specific need for quad channel memory, I'd still go with Ryzen. I mean, that's brand new spanking tech where Intel's stuff is basically generations old tech with slight refinement. It works, sure, but I like new shiny stuff.

 

[EarthDog]

My guess is this...........

They will have a 'refresh' and bring out KL-X... either that or they just made some phone calls to speed up the next line of processor which, in theory, will be faster than AMD... lol

 

[eidairaman1]

Replacing your wife's netburst nuclear reactor with a vishera reactor?

That was Prescott/Preshott, not Northwood.

I wouldn't say 50 C gaming load is a nuke reactor, that's how hot some gpus run or more just idle.

I still recall you sending back a perfectly fine chip because it didn't oc far enough supposedly.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...g-isnt-going-too-well-kaby-lake.230344/page-3

 

[dorsetknob]

Knoxx29

Have you Hired an experienced Apple Fanboy to queue on the pavement for you so your 1st in line ??? to buy

 

[EarthDog]

That was Prescott/Preshott, not Northwood.

I wouldn't say 50 C gaming load is a nuke reactor, that's how hot some gpus run or more just idle.

I still recall you sending back a perfectly fine chip because it didn't oc far enough supposedly.

Temp and heat are not the same thing... which is has a higher temperature... a lighter with a single yellow flame or a bonfire with yellow flames?

Also, their(AMDs) temp limits are MUCH lower than intel, but they use a lot more power than their Intel counterparts.

 

[eidairaman1]

Temp and heat are not the same thing... which is has a higher temperature... a lighter with a single yellow flame or a bonfire with yellow flames?

Also, their(AMDs) temp limits are MUCH lower than intel, but they use a lot more power than their Intel counterparts.

Explain why my chip hits at worst case 75 C and 81-83 package on the Blender test and completes it just fine where as a HEDT cant go beyond 4.5 but locks?

My max voltage is 1.524, standard is 1.467, 0.1v isn't using nearly as much as say 2.0V etc. My volts are in line with the Athlon XP and skt 754 rigs.

I mean other than the chip lotto I'm pretty sure there are others on air with 5.1+GHz. C is just a measure of temperature whether hot or cold.