Intel Formally Announces the Core i7 and Core i9 X Series Processors

[the54thvoid]

I adore you're math.

7800X and 7820X are the "core equivalents" of Ryzen 5 1600 and Ryzen 7 1800X. The cost more (the latter being $600), but it's nowhere near 500 GBP.
Plus, based on what we've seen already, they should perform better. I'm sure AMD is lowering Ryzen prices for a good reason.

I adore your english. I know it's not your first language!

I was referring to Broadwell-E 8 core (as Skylake X wasn't around when I bought my AMD chip). Besides, I paid <£400 for my CPU, so it's still over 50% extra.

All said however if the 8 core drops at £600 (unlikely, more like £750 after tax and retail pricing) it's not so bad if it runs at 4Ghz on all cores.

 

[notb]

Well, Intel said that the TIM was better on Devil's Canyon CPUs, but it was the same kind of crap than on previous ones.

I have to say I don't know what TIM Intel uses, but I'd suggest to wait for the reviews, because this doesn't have to be the same thing they put in LGA1151.
E.g. TIMs based on graphene have pretty impressive conductivity properties compared to traditional materials, but retain all the advantages.

I know we already got used to how CPUs are made, but think about it for a moment... Soldering the IHS and chip is a pretty weird idea in general. We should be able to do better in 2017.

 

[Basard]

The AMD community is just that toxic, and I'm finding hard to believe that people aren't in awe of the 7820X being only 100 bucks more expensive than the 1800X, having in mind the CPU monster that it must be.

1000 unit tray pricing.

 

[notb]

I adore your english. I know it's not your first language!

I was referring to Broadwell-E 8 core (as Skylake X wasn't around when I bought my AMD chip). Besides, I paid <£400 for my CPU, so it's still over 50% extra.

All said however if the 8 core drops at £600 (unlikely, more like £750 after tax and retail pricing) it's not so bad if it runs at 4Ghz on all cores.

Oh man, writing this post on a phone during a boring meeting was a bad idea after all. But I don't have any games! I think I'll ask for a notebook.

Sure, Ryzen pricing was excellent compared to Broadwell-E, but a lot has changed since then. You simply bought your Ryzen to early.
Honestly, I think the Skylake-X pricing is excellent. It's high enough not to harm the consumer segment, but should be OK for current Intel owners (people that accepted LGA2011 pricing).

And as usual with Intel, it's a proper blitzkrieg. I'm not surprised motherboard manufacturers didn't have time to make AM4 stuff - it seems they've been working with X299 at least since Ryzen launched.
ASRock launched mITX boards for X299 and X370 basically on the same day - this is just sad.
And the X299 is possibly the most impressive mobo I've ever seen.

1000 unit tray pricing.

Nope. MSRP $599 for 7820X according to wccftech

 

[Kurt Maverick]

Yes, the bias is clearly visible in every single forum thread. Hate agains Intel and Nvidia is the norm.

i7-6800K already beats Ryzen 7 1800X at a lower price. i7-7800X is not only higher clocked, but also brings whatever improvements Skylake-X has over Broadwell-E, so Intel is not shaking in fear

No kidding. Like I said, the AMD community is the most toxic one I've found. Ever.

At least they've been useful this time. 7820X for 600 bucks, w00t!

Or maybe intel users sick and tired of intel holding out? Doesn't matter whose team has more core in the end day majority will buy a cpu thats best bang for their money. Dont act like amd is not shaking things up give them some credit.

Oh, I don't doubt that they've shaken things up. BARELY, but they have.

Honestly, given what a disaster Ryzen has been in the gaming sector, I think that it's already a miracle that Intel decided to step up.

Thanks for the insight. I'm a Ryzen owner and it games fine with my 1080ti at 1440p. No probs. Glad I saved £500 on the Intel core equivalent.

No, thanks to YOU for sacrificing yourself for the noble cause of me getting a REAL 8-core CPU for only 100 extra bucks

And for completely ignoring how CPU benchmarks works.

 

[gasolina]

I'm owning both 5820k 4,7ghz and a amd 1700x 4.0ghz. Still not see many significant improvement from the ryzen yet......100% i will go with the x299 instead of amd hedt since i'm not really impressed with my ryzen ( amd hedt should base on current ryzen ).

 

[radrok]

Alright so if I want those 44 Pcie Lanes I guess I gotta pick 10 cores too, doesn't sound like a bad deal to me, especially if it clocks higher than Haswell-E

 

[evernessince]

No, thanks to YOU for sacrificing yourself for the noble cause of me getting a REAL 8-core CPU for only 100 extra bucks

And for completely ignoring how CPU benchmarks works.

Do you even comprehend bro? You insult the AMD community for being toxic yet here you are being toxic to EVERY AMD related post here. Geralt would have to use his silver sword on you because you refuse to look into the mirror and see the monster. You are only fooling yourself if you think Intel's fans are any better than AMD's.

 

[Frick]

No kidding. Like I said, the AMD community is the most toxic one I've found. Ever.

Online gaming.

Also, any toxicity is all around really. It's the way of the modern world.

 

[Kurt Maverick]

Do you even comprehend bro? You insult the AMD community for being toxic yet here you are being toxic to EVERY AMD related post here. Geralt would have to use his silver sword on you because you refuse to look into the mirror and see the monster. You are only fooling yourself if you think Intel's fans are any better than AMD's.

LOL! You're lucky I love W3, if not I'd have jumped at you differently.

You have a pass. For now.

Online gaming.

I think it even beats online gaming. At least ugly things are said in gaming cos of the heat of competition, whereas AMD fanboys says so to defend their shitty products, and even being lied about them (the famous "THE 1800X IS GONNA BEAT THE 6900K IN GAMING PERFORMANCE!").

 

[Tatty_Two]

LOL! You're lucky I love W3, if not I'd have jumped at you differently.

You have a pass. For now.



I think it even beats online gaming. At least ugly things are said in gaming cos of the heat of competition, whereas AMD fanboys says so to defend their shitty products, and even being lied about them (the famous "THE 1800X IS GONNA BEAT THE 6900K IN GAMING PERFORMANCE!").

Unfortunately you don't, too much flame bait for even me to digest.

 

[Dave65]

I vote for waiting for the benchmarks before judging.

And at worst, buy a good AIO.

This shows you have no idea what you're talking about, NO AIO can compete with a chip with bad TIM, and Intel has proven in it's history that it uses SHIT TIM!

 

[Camm]

I'm no AMD (or Intel for that matter) fanboi for a long stretch, but the guys coming in here saying the 7820X is a great buy at only $100 more than a 1800X not realise that

A: That table is 1000 unit tray pricing (retail pricing usually jack up another 10%), and
B: Ryzen has a 1700 8 core that's $300 cheaper?

What I'm most annoyed at though is I could have justified the 8 core if its all core OC is high, but Intel gimped the PCI-e lanes on it for some strange reason.

Also, odd how those higher core count CPU's are nowhere to be seen (as the dies are certainly already available) - I think the reality is those parts would in current guise be sub 3.0Ghz parts of which lets me honest, none of us in the HEDT market would be that interested in.

 

[notb]

A: That table is 1000 unit tray pricing (retail pricing usually jack up another 10%), and

I've seen sources stating this is MSRP. Even if you're right, that's still a great discount compared to previous generation.

B: Ryzen has a 1700 8 core that's $300 cheaper?

I don't get this argument at all. AMD themselves offer 8-core "X" models more expensive than 1700 and they seem to have a reason to exist. Based on clocks, 7820X will be competing with 1800X, not the two slower variants.

What I'm most annoyed at though is I could have justified the 8 core if its all core OC is high, but Intel gimped the PCI-e lanes on it for some strange reason.

Product placement. The performance gap between 8 and 10 cores won't be great (especially given the higher clocks on 7820X). They have to make a reason for users to pay the extra $400.
There could be other differences as well.
This is also in-line with AMD offering. Ryzen 7 (high-end consumer) offers just 24 lanes.
Both i9 and R9 will offer more (both in "enthusiast" / workstation segment).

 

[Frick]

I think it even beats online gaming. At least ugly things are said in gaming cos of the heat of competition, whereas AMD fanboys says so to defend their shitty products, and even being lied about them (the famous "THE 1800X IS GONNA BEAT THE 6900K IN GAMING PERFORMANCE!").

This post says a lot.

EDIT: And I can't say I remember anyone here dedending AMD for their hype. If anything people are super wary because of their past overhype. And this argument will bot likely fly with you but the 1800x got withing 90% of 6900k performance at 50% of the price. I do not understand how people do not call that a very solid win.

 

[Camm]

This post says a lot.

EDIT: And I can't say I remember anyone here dedending AMD for their hype. If anything people are super wary because of their past overhype. And this argument will bot likely fly with you but the 1800x got withing 90% of 6900k performance at 50% of the price. I do not understand how people do not call that a very solid win.

90% in gaming. Other benchmarks are neck and neck or better as a general rule. And the gaming argument isn't 100% of the time either, and rather dependent on the game. And all for half the price of what Intel was charging for an 8 core at the time.

 

[Prima.Vera]

What's that bullshit with 44 lines only for the 10 core??? and 1000$ for it???
You must be kidding me...

 

[*zSnowz*]

I vote for waiting for the benchmarks before judging.

And at worst, buy a good AIO.

This may be somewhat off topic but you mention an AIO cooler. I have been scared off these coolers because of possible leaking problems. How often do these things actually leak? Is everyone using AIO coolers now? I am still using a hefty Noctua air cooler but may have to switch with the high TDPs of i9 chips.

 

[Keullo-e]

What's that bullshit with 44 lines only for the 10 core??? and 1000$ for it???
You must be kidding me...

That's where I almost spit my coffee when I saw that. Intel truly likes gimping things.

 

[Tatty_Two]

This may be somewhat off topic but you mention an AIO cooler. I have been scared off these coolers because of possible leaking problems. How often do these things actually leak? Is everyone using AIO coolers now? I am still using a hefty Noctua air cooler but may have to switch with the high TDPs of i9 chips.

Been using them for 5 years, never so much as a drip.

 

[notb]

What's that bullshit with 44 lines only for the 10 core??? and 1000$ for it???
You must be kidding me...

I don't understand why this is such a shock.
How much do you have to pay AMD to get >40 PCIe lanes at this point?

 

[EarthDog]

What's that bullshit with 44 lines only for the 10 core??? and 1000$ for it???
You must be kidding me...

lol, they play the numbers... and do it right. So few need it, even in that space...

Its typical amd, ahead of its time without real payoffs now.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Actually the even bigger shocker is the inclusion of a shitty i5 and i7 7740x into this platform with..... 16 PCIe lines !?!?!?
16 for an X platform ??????????

 

[Keullo-e]

Actually the even bigger shocker is the inclusion of a shitty i5 and i7 7740x into this platform with..... 16 PCIe lines !?!?!?
16 for an X platform ??????????

They are the same dies like on 1151 platform, so no physical changes there. That's why they also support only two memory channels.

 

[notb]

Actually the even bigger shocker is the inclusion of a shitty i5 and i7 7740x into this platform with..... 16 PCIe lines !?!?!?
16 for an X platform ??????????

You're thinking too much about such things as "X platform".
As @9700 Pro said, these 4-core CPUs are just adapted from current Kaby Lake lineup. Most likely the 7740X (or maybe the 7820X) will now be the flagship gaming CPU, like 7700K used to be just a week ago. Here by "flagship" I mean the one that gets most focus in marketing etc, not the most powerful.

Intel is clearly shifting their top products from LGA1151 to LGA2066. The latter is no longer "HEDT". Now it's also a high-end gaming platform.
2 possible scenarios here:
1) platforms will overlap in performance (which is fine, earlier the gap was huge)
2) consumer platform (LGA1151 successor) will be targeted at the office/multimedia/low-end gaming: possibly even without -K CPUs. In theory this could also make a smaller socket possible - a proper game changer for AIO and SFF.

Either way, IMO it's a great move for users - especially those that want to upgrade in the future.