Modding Vbios - GTX 780M - MSI GT60 Laptop

Newbie1986 · Jun 16, 2017

Hi everyone – i need some help

I have a Msi gaming laptop and i replaced my GTX 780M [faulty] graphics card for another GTX 780M graphics card [bought on eBay 2nd hand]

I have Windows 10 64bit and the graphics card is not registering – it shows up as standard display driver

Hardware ID's are
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_119F&SUBSYS_05AA1462&REV_A1
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_119F&SUBSYS_05AA1462
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_119F&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_119F&CC_0300

I have tried using different drivers from Nvidia but the installation fails to detect the graphics card.

Any ideas :S

I have attached my graphic card details i got from GPU z

Thanks

FreedomEclipse · Jun 16, 2017

Contact msi CS

Newbie1986 · Jun 16, 2017

FreedomEclipse said:
Contact msi CS

Hi there

My laptop is not under warranty - would they still help ?

Thanks

FreedomEclipse · Jun 16, 2017

Newbie1986 said:
Hi there

My laptop is not under warranty - would they still help ?

Thanks

Yes. Or at least you would receive better answers from them regarding their hardware then here.

They might blacklist their bioses so you might need a whitelisted bios or replace the faulty part with another thats exactly the same

Caring1 · Jun 17, 2017

The driver for the Graphics card is integral in the Laptops BIOS.
You cannot download drivers from Nvidia and expect them to work.
You may need a custom BIOS written, or install a GPU that is identical to the one you removed.

P4-630 · Jun 17, 2017

Caring1 said:
The driver for the Graphics card is integral in the Laptops BIOS.
You cannot download drivers from Nvidia and expect them to work.
You may need a custom BIOS written, or install a GPU that is identical to the one you removed.

What he said^

The graphics BIOS is integrated in the laptop BIOS.
Not much you can do about it, you would need an exact graphics card that comes from the same laptop model for it to work.

Newbie1986 · Jun 17, 2017

Caring1 said:
The driver for the Graphics card is integral in the Laptops BIOS.
You cannot download drivers from Nvidia and expect them to work.
You may need a custom BIOS written, or install a GPU that is identical to the one you removed.

Hi

IF i found the bios of my old graphics card - can this be modded on to the replacement card ? using Nvflash ?

Thanks

P4-630 · Jun 17, 2017

Newbie1986 said:
Hi

IF i found the bios of my old graphics card - can this be modded on to the replacement card ? using Nvflash ?

Thanks

You are talking about modifying a laptop BIOS which you just can't do that easy.

You will need an exact graphics card that came out the same laptop model as yours, this would be the only way it would work.

dorsetknob · Jun 17, 2017

Laptops with Discrete Video Cards (MMX slot ect ) do not have a Bios built on the Card
As others have Said
the Bios is Part of the motherboard Bios
you have to fit a Authorized Replacement Part that the Bios Reconise
this may be restricted by a white list of SKU held in the Bios

P4-630 said:
You will need an exact graphics card that came out the same laptop model as yours, this would be the only way it would work.

you Card has these hardware id's ( so you list)

Newbie1986 said:
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_119F&SUBSYS_05AA1462&REV_A1
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_119F&SUBSYS_05AA1462
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_119F&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_119F&CC_0300

The original Card must match these or as you found out it is not Reconised

Ferrum Master · Jun 17, 2017

dorsetknob said:
Laptops with Discrete Video Cards (MMX slot ect ) do not have a Bios built on the Card

Nada, some actually do have the SPI flash onboard.

@Newbie1986

Give us the picture of your old card, I have a feeling IC swap will be needed.

Newbie1986 · Jun 17, 2017

dorsetknob said:
Laptops with Discrete Video Cards (MMX slot ect ) do not have a Bios built on the Card
As others have Said
the Bios is Part of the motherboard Bios
you have to fit a Authorized Replacement Part that the Bios Reconise
this may be restricted by a white list of SKU held in the Bios

you Card has these hardware id's ( so you list)

The original Card must match these or as you found out it is not Reconised

Some forums advise modifying the ini file ? :S

Ferrum Master said:
Nada, some actually do have the SPI flash onboard.

@Newbie1986

Give us the picture of your old card, I have a feeling IC swap will be needed.

hi

do you mean output a GPU Z screen shot ?

Frick · Jun 17, 2017

Newbie1986 said:
Some forums advise modifying the ini file ? :S

An ini file is a file with properties a program reads. Example: in some games the game settings are saved in ini files.

And we want pictures of the card itself.

DRDNA · Jun 17, 2017

Newbie1986 said:
hi

do you mean output a GPU Z screen shot ?

no...an actual picture will help.

StefanM · Jun 17, 2017

1)
regarding GPU-Z screenshot: the tool has a camera button with upload function

2)
to test compatibility with NVFlash open GPU-Z / advanced / NVIDIA BIOS
incompatible GPUs give a warning "wrong parameter", compatible GPUs show useful information

3)
your SUBSYS ID doesn't exist in generic drivers like 382.53
therefore you have to modify the INF of the driver (not INI) or grab it from here
also you must disable driver signatures and install via "have disk method"

Newbie1986 · Jun 18, 2017

Hi everyone

Thanks for all the help , much appreciated.

i was finally able to get the graphics card working by modifying the nvami.inf file on the 382.53 drivers {Thanks Stefan}

The only downside is i have to keep doing this every time NVIDIA releases a new driver

But really happy the graphics card is working

Yaay

StefanM · Jun 18, 2017

Newbie1986 said:
...
i was finally able to get the graphics card working by modifying the nvami.inf file on the 382.53 drivers {Thanks Stefan}
...

No problem.
Just out of curiousity: what's the result when you open GPU-Z / advanced / NVIDIA BIOS as i suggested earlier?

Newbie1986 · Jun 18, 2017

StefanM said:
No problem.
Just out of curiousity: what's the result when you open GPU-Z / advanced / NVIDIA BIOS as i suggested earlier?

upload the gpu-z info after modding the inf file

thanks

StefanM · Jun 18, 2017

Newbie1986 said:
upload the gpu-z info after modding the inf file

That looks good.
You should be able to save the BIOS or submit it to online database. So you have a backup just in case there is a problem in future.
Therefore hit the button with arrow between "BIOS version" and "UEFI" in GPU-Z

eidairaman1 · Jun 18, 2017

Don't worry about having to modify the driver, same thing was going on with Mobility Radeon Parts in 2004

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Modding Vbios - GTX 780M - MSI GT60 Laptop

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