German Company to Sell Binned Core i7 8700K With 99.9% Silver Heatspreader

[bogami]

Somebody found a market niche for foolish rewinding. More than double the price for an unnecessary piece of silver. That it would be better to give a specially designed liquid cooling block as a replacement for an existing thermal distributor.
Simply remove the exsisting ones hit distributor, and add good liquid metal thermal grease on die. Then, carefully and accurately mount the liquide thermal block, I suggest spacers, remove the processor connector into the bay. The processor will not flicker because it keeps it in place with the block. and you did not pay anything more than a good thermal paste. With all of them, even without problem, you achieve better results than with the added, silver-space element.!

 

[jabbadap]

I wouldn't call that a good binned chip, 1.4 for 4.8 or 4.9...

Well yeah somewhere those bad bins had to go too. Still they are usable cpus, which can OC from stock 4.3GHz all-core clock speeds with warranty intact and lower stock speed temps.

Edit: they are actually selling delidded i5 8600ks too.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

in another news, someone other than "durr-bau-er" clocked the 8700K to 7.41GHz on all cores with LN2, beating his record & nabbing a new world record.

 

[Raevenlord]

in another news, someone other than "durr-bau-er" clocked the 8700K to 7.41GHz on all cores with LN2, beating his record & nabbing a new world record.

Aye.

https://www.techpowerup.com/237613/...-to-7-45-ghz-under-ln2-100-frequency-increase

 

[Basard]

Well, lots of people buy Ferraris.... Not because they are stupid, but because they are rich.

 

[yotano211]

why "derbauer".... after his publicity stunt on the Core i9 + high VRM temps that got debunked, I doubt ppl will spend 700 Euros for a binned chip with his name on it... Rather let RNGezus decide my silicon luck.

What did he do with the i9 and high temps, I am just interesting in what he did.

 

[Tomgang]

I think in that price range, i would better try my luck on a I7 7900K that is not binned. Even if fail, i would still get better multicore performance any way.

But for now i stick to my trusty I7 980X.

 

[damric]

He's making a little money doing what he loves, so people are going to pour hate on him out of jealousy. Binning, delidding, and repasting takes time, and those custom lids are not cheap. He's a nice guy, always answering forum posts on hwbot and ocn. He's a hardware enthusiast, just like us, but he really gives back to the community. All of his tutorials on overclocking.guide didn't write themselves, and they are free to view. That said, I wouldn't buy this. I delid and overclock my own stuff because it's fun.

 

[riffraffy]

Der8auer is not just "deliding" expert. He's well known in the hardcore overclocking scene. He's even featured in ASUS RealBench multitasking video.

A deliding expert in the overclocking scene ! What is he thinking ?

 

[Sasqui]

Pure marketing genius!

 

[Octopuss]

The amount of "patheticism" in this thread makes me speechless.
Someone finds a way to turn something he knows a lot about into business, and bunch of random forum heroes immediatelly start mocking him, insulting him, and babbling other stupid crap.
What are you, 14 years old?

 

[RejZoR]

The amount of "patheticism" in this thread makes me speechless.
Someone finds a way to turn something he knows a lot about into business, and bunch of random forum heroes immediatelly start mocking him, insulting him, and babbling other stupid crap.
What are you, 14 years old?

At least here are the real benefits. Anyone remembers Fatal1ty everything? Sure, the guy was good professional gamer, but the amount of stuff with his label was getting kinda ridiculous. But I'm happy that he made bucks from it. Coz why the hell not. Same here. Besides, Caseking is known to create aftermarket bundles. They've been offering bunch of pre-designed stuff at a premium (like custom water cooled GTX 1080's series).

Although, just checking, it's double the price. In this case, it's cheaper to just buy one, check it and if clocks badly, sell it at a tiny loss. Repeat until you find a good one. You'll waste less money with loses for selling used one with warranty than buying a verified one for double the price from get go. Unless you can't be bothered and you don't care about price.

 

[Octopuss]

If someone wants to pay that amount of money, that's his problem. But spewing shit onto someone just because he offers something some people are willing to buy, that's just retarded.

 

[natr0n]

Der8auer making major bank.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think everyone is missing a very simple chemistry point here. 99.9% silver oxidizes moderately swiftly when exposed to air, faster when heat is applied. So even if there's just a small amount of silver-oxide on the surface, it acts as a thermal insulator, effectively negating the supposed benefit of using silver in the first place. And there are better, less expensive, thermal conductors that could be used. This is not only an endeavor of morons, for elitist morons, but will guarantee damage to the cpu in the long run.
And before anyone says it, any coating that would prevent oxidation will also create a thermal insulation layer, again negating the desired effect. This only way this would work is to alloy silver with a metal that prevents oxidation. The problem with that possibility is that there are only a few metals that can be alloyed in such a way while preserving the desired thermal conductivity, and all of them are very expensive and the process to create a stable alloy is also expensive. This is a fools effort all the way around. Of course, considering the market sector this product is aimed at, it's par for the course.

 

[MrGenius]

Sure...K|NGP|N does it...it's fine. der8auer does it...it's shameless self-promotion bordering on false advertisement.

Silicon Lottery.com does it...it's fine. CaseKing.de does it...it's somehow controversial.

Double standard much?

Where are the ones with golden heatspreaders?
I may have to wait a liitle longer then....

That would actually be worse than the copper heatspreader it came with.

99,9% silver heatspreader... lmao. This is entering territory of audiophile audio cables crafted by elves in moonlight.

Basically. Since the thermal conductivity of silver is not significantly higher than copper. I doubt it would make more than 1-2°C difference(if that).

I think everyone is missing a very simple chemistry point here. 99.9% silver oxidizes moderately swiftly when exposed to air, faster when heat is applied. Bla bla bla bla....

Point not missed on me. Though it's totally irrelevant. Why? Because copper does the same thing. And it's widely used for such purposes(not nickel plated in heat sinks, or nickel plating removed from IHS by lapping). And...you said it yourself...exposure to air it what causes it. There is no exposure to air when covered in TIM. So oxidation is not going to happen. And you're blowing the effects of oxidation way out of proportion anyway. It's a microscopic layer that has no real/significant impact on thermal conductivity. That's laughable.

 

[P4-630]

That would actually be worse than the copper heatspreader it came with.

But I like bling!!!
Once it's outdated I can wear it on a chain!!

 

[Keullo-e]

Well, some people pay premium for Titans instead of the fastest Ti cards. I don't think that this is that "take the money from the stupid people" kind of a thing.

 

[thesmokingman]

Sure...K|NGP|N does it...it's fine. der8auer does it...it's shameless self-promotion bordering on false advertisement.

Silicon Lottery.com does it...it's fine. CaseKing.de does it...it's somehow controversial.

Double standard much?

It was/is pretty stupid what SL does, so I don't see the double standard. This service is for the meek, those who can't or won't mod themselves. And in the instance of the previous 7700K, they all did 5ghz w/o much effort. And the binned Threadrippers, another example of all chips hitting 4ghz so ppl who did ante up for the binning were literally just throwing money away. And in the case of the Threadrippers, that was/is really a kicker since they are already highly binned from AMD to begin with being the top 5% of all silicon. lol.

 

[R-T-B]

There is no exposure to air when covered in TIM. So oxidation is not going to happen. And you're blowing the effects of oxidation way out of proportion anyway. It's a microscopic layer that has no real/significant impact on thermal conductivity. That's laughable.

You were right on your whole post until this, unfortunately I need to stop you there man.

It's solid silver. TIM isn't on every square inch, so oxidation is going to happen. Also silver tarnishes very quickly, much faster and worse than copper.

It was/is pretty stupid what SL does, so I don't see the double standard. This service is for the meek, those who can't or won't mod themselves. And in the instance of the previous 7700K, they all did 5ghz w/o much effort. And the binned Threadrippers, another example of all chips hitting 4ghz so ppl who did ante up for the binning were literally just throwing money away. And in the case of the Threadrippers, that was/is really a kicker since they are already highly binned from AMD to begin with being the top 5% of all silicon. lol.

Unless you know, people just don't want to mess around and want a fast chip quick.

It's great you think people who buy there are stupid. As a customer in the past, I will be sure and file that under "don't care."

 

[thesmokingman]

You were right on your whole post until this, unfortunately I need to stop you there man.

It's solid silver. TIM isn't on every square inch, so oxidation is going to happen. Also silver tarnishes very quickly, much faster and worse than copper.

But its silver and its so blingy man!

 

[R-T-B]

But its silver and its so blingy man!

It really is largely a gimick, but to be completely fair, it might ACTUALLY slightly improve thermals if you never remove the chip and ensure a good thermal pathway with the paste.

But we all know that is not why it is being bought...

 

[Mirkoskji]

Thermal conductivity of copper is 400 w*m k versus silver's 430. I think it's not Worth the change. Silver can be used in more useful applications

 

[Dave65]

Kinda reminds me of ASROCK and the guy called Fatal1ty, no don't want someones face on my hardware!

 

[Parn]

WTF?

Why do ppls overclock their CPUs? That's because they would like to get every extra ounce of performance out of their CPUs without paying the premium.

IMHO, what this German retailer does defeats the purpose of OC.