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Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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No.Is it related with throttling issue ?
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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No.Is it related with throttling issue ?
This is what is very likely going on.If they could sell a CPU at 4Ghz and 700Mhz boost to all cores and 1Ghz boost on two cores reliably off ever wafer, they would.
It seems more like they are.
1) Binning with more flaws and higher voltages. Salvage more dies that have higher power consumption, or lower clock potential.
2) Screwing with overclockers.
3) Protecting their product. Preventing overclocking on more boards.
4) Trying to make more money. People will be pushed to buy higher priced parts to ensure performance.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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You think so?This is what is very likely going on.
Um, did you read the response I was quoting? Try again...You think so?
1. TDP is a given value and all. So, no. Period.
2. This has absolutely nothing to do with overclockers... do tell how these are associated...
3. What?????? What do motherboards have to do with this?????
4. What 2x????? Performance doesnt change...
Seriously... none of that makes any sense whatsoever. Wow.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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System Name | eazen corp | Xentronon 7.2 |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max. |
Motherboard | Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out) |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V |
Video Card(s) | Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6 |
Storage | Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM |
Display(s) | Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV |
Case | Corsair Carbide 600C |
Audio Device(s) | HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80 |
Power Supply | EVGA 650 GQ |
Mouse | Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches |
VR HMD | Still nope |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 15 095 Time Spy | P29 079 Firestrike | P35 628 3DM11 | X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme |
Processor | R5 5600X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING |
Cooling | Alpenföhn Black Ridge |
Memory | 2*16GB DDR4-2666 VLP @3800 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 XC3 |
Storage | 1TB Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB Intel 660p |
Display(s) | ASUS PG279Q, Eizo EV2736W |
Case | Dan Cases A4-SFX |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | Corsair Ironclaw Wireless RGB |
Keyboard | Corsair K60 |
VR HMD | HTC Vive |
System Name | eazen corp | Xentronon 7.2 |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max. |
Motherboard | Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out) |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V |
Video Card(s) | Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6 |
Storage | Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM |
Display(s) | Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV |
Case | Corsair Carbide 600C |
Audio Device(s) | HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80 |
Power Supply | EVGA 650 GQ |
Mouse | Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches |
VR HMD | Still nope |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 15 095 Time Spy | P29 079 Firestrike | P35 628 3DM11 | X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme |
This isn't about AMD, and this is news. If it weren't news it obviously wouldn't be reported and debated everywhere.
System Name | Bayou Phantom |
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Processor | Core i7-8700k 4.4Ghz @ 1.18v |
Motherboard | ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 6 |
Cooling | All air: 2x140mm Fractal exhaust; 3x 140mm Cougar Intake; Enermax T40F Black CPU cooler |
Memory | 2x 16GB Mushkin Redline DDR-4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Xc |
Storage | 1x 500 MX500 SSD; 2x 6TB WD Black; 1x 4TB WD Black; 1x400GB VelRptr; 1x 4TB WD Blue storage (eSATA) |
Display(s) | HP 27q 27" IPS @ 2560 x 1440 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 Black w/Titanium front -windowed |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster Z |
Power Supply | Seasonic X-850 |
Mouse | Coolermaster Sentinel III (large palm grip!) |
Keyboard | Logitech G610 Orion mechanical (Cherry Brown switches) |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Start10 & Fences 3.0 installed) |
They want me / us to buy their stuff, so they have to give us the information we want, or we go and buy AMD, for example. We don't owe them anything, they have to deliver.
Indeed, and you may not remember the days, but it will bring back some of the sense of accomplishment of overclocking. It adds a bit of mystery to find out what each chip will do.
System Name | eazen corp | Xentronon 7.2 |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X // PBO max. |
Motherboard | Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 w/ AM4 kit // 3x Corsair AF140L case fans (2 in, 1 out) |
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 @ 3800, CL16-19-19-39-58-1T, 1.4 V |
Video Card(s) | Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti modded to MATRIX // 2000-2100 MHz Core / 1938 MHz G6 |
Storage | Silicon Power P34A80 1TB NVME/Samsung SSD 830 128GB&850 Evo 500GB&F3 1TB 7200RPM/Seagate 2TB 5900RPM |
Display(s) | Samsung 27" Curved FS2 HDR QLED 1440p/144Hz&27" iiyama TN LED 1080p/120Hz / Samsung 40" IPS 1080p TV |
Case | Corsair Carbide 600C |
Audio Device(s) | HyperX Cloud Orbit S / Creative SB X AE-5 @ Logitech Z906 / Sony HD AVR @PC & TV @ Teufel Theater 80 |
Power Supply | EVGA 650 GQ |
Mouse | Logitech G700 @ Steelseries DeX // Xbox 360 Wireless Controller |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 LUX RGB /w Cherry MX Brown switches |
VR HMD | Still nope |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 15 095 Time Spy | P29 079 Firestrike | P35 628 3DM11 | X67 508 3DM Vantage Extreme |
Again, I don't understand why some people here are defending a company known for abusive and shady marketing tricks.Actually Intel doesn't owe you or any of us anything other than a working product...and this lack of provided information does not affect the working product. If you or we don't like what they offer then we don't buy it.
I remember those days but this isn't about that. The i5 8400 is locked, no funny dip switches, nothing.This information about all cores boost isn't necessary. Indeed, and you may not remember the days, but it will bring back some of the sense of accomplishment of overclocking. It adds a bit of mystery to find out what each chip will do.
Processor | R5 5600X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING |
Cooling | Alpenföhn Black Ridge |
Memory | 2*16GB DDR4-2666 VLP @3800 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 XC3 |
Storage | 1TB Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB Intel 660p |
Display(s) | ASUS PG279Q, Eizo EV2736W |
Case | Dan Cases A4-SFX |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | Corsair Ironclaw Wireless RGB |
Keyboard | Corsair K60 |
VR HMD | HTC Vive |
Plenty of things that are not news are reported and debated.This isn't about AMD, and this is news. If it weren't news it obviously wouldn't be reported and debated everywhere.
Any reliable source for that beyond simple suspicions?The i5 8400 is working great in reviews because of cherry picked examples sent to reviewers from Intel, but the average CPU won't be that great and not boost to 3800 MHz which greatly decreases its performance. I'm also pretty tired of repeating myself to deaf ears.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Speculative at best... all of this.Again, I don't understand why some people here are defending a company known for abusive and shady marketing tricks.
It does very well affect the working product, this is what its all about. If I know the i5 8400 won't boost to 3800 MHz, but instead, depending on quality of the CPU or ASIC, just to 3400, I simply wouldn't buy it. And I wouldn't buy such a shitty locked CPU anyway. I find locked CPUs a nonsense in general. They are made to force us to buy more expensive CPUs just to get unlocked ones. AMD isn't doing that. Intel is doing it, and now they are also effectively lying about Turbo Boost as well.
I remember those days but this isn't about that. The i5 8400 is locked, no funny dip switches, nothing.
The information is very necessary, it's necessary enough for multiple news on web pages and thousands of posts on the net. The i5 8400 is working great in reviews because of cherry picked examples sent to reviewers from Intel, but the average CPU won't be that great and not boost to 3800 MHz which greatly decreases its performance. I'm also pretty tired of repeating myself to deaf ears.