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For storage of things like games I'd really recommend a 7200rpm hdd tbh. Lots of storage. Nvme is fast but Windows only boots so fast ya know, i recently made the same decision you are now and I went with the 850 evo. For mass storage again id get a 4tb western digital black drive or something. 8 times the hdd space for very little real world performance for around the same price. That or an HGST Hitachi 7200rpm enterprise drive for around the same price. Real world difference st least in my opinion is negligible for hdd vs ssd load time for most applications. I will never recommend anything less than an ssd for booting though.

Edit: forgot to mention look at warranties. Sata ssds have way better warranties and are more reliable. Part of the reason I went 850 over 960.
Have both, steam makes game moving so easy it's usually pointless to have a a Tb of ssd with games on, i know i did it, two 850 basics and an 512 Gb 850 evo got close to a Tb but due to a early evo death I've only got an 256 Gb 850 basic, fits a few games on though and swapping between games is easy.
 
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Just keep in mind that SSD's can't be filled to the "brim" so to speak, as they slow down considerably once you hit 70-80% fill rate. It's really the only downside I've seen to modern SSDs over HDDs.
 

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Yes, in terms of endurance, but not in terms of speed. Its a trade off, but I would definitely go for the new BX over the MX. If I remember correctly, the BX speeds fall off hard when the drive is nearly full.

I think the idea that TLC is worse than MLC at this point needs to go away. The original TLC had issues, particularly Samsung TLC ironically. However, Once they went to 3D NAND there really aren't any issues with TLC.

On the other hand, the MX drive is still the better drive. You can't just judge a drive by TLC vs MLC.
 
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I think the idea that TLC is worse than MLC at this point needs to go away. The original TLC had issues, particularly Samsung TLC ironically. However, Once they went to 3D NAND there really aren't any issues with TLC.

On the other hand, the MX drive is still the better drive. You can't just judge a drive by TLC vs MLC.

These things are very hard to gauge; issues pop up long after reviews have been made. I think this is the reason people err on the safe side of things. But you may well be right.
 
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I think the idea that TLC is worse than MLC at this point needs to go away. The original TLC had issues, particularly Samsung TLC ironically. However, Once they went to 3D NAND there really aren't any issues with TLC.

On the other hand, the MX drive is still the better drive. You can't just judge a drive by TLC vs MLC.

I made a mistake by just singling that out. I have heard that new BX is actually better in general though. It just comes in smaller sizes. I'd get an MX myself just because of it.
 
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if i have to choose, i try to avoid the lower one but i cant sacrifice the performance.
the higher one is expensive and my wallet cant take it

so the only thing is the midrange
 
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I just bought a 500gb evo from newest tonight for $155. Versus the 960 evo it was about 100 cheaper I think for performance gains I won't really notice.
 
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I made a mistake by just singling that out. I have heard that new BX is actually better in general though. It just comes in smaller sizes. I'd get an MX myself just because of it.
Yes it is, because of MLC & probably controller as well.
The MX300 performance is all over the place, BX 300(?) is far more consistent & isn't TLC of course, though it could also be down to the controller the MX has.
 
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Yes it is, because of MLC & probably controller as well.
The MX300 performance is all over the place, BX 300(?) is far more consistent & isn't TLC of course, though it could also be down to the controller the MX has.
If I understand correctly, TLC now days in drives like the 850 evo are just as good as MLC because Of the 3d nand they use?

How does SLC compare? I've heard it's better than MLC and TLC but it's much more expensive.
 
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If I understand correctly, TLC now days in drives like the 850 evo are just as good as MLC because Of the 3d nand they use?

How does SLC compare? I've heard it's better than MLC and TLC but it's much more expensive.
Yes, but it also depends on the SSD manufacturer & the controller. Since Samsung make their own NAND & controller, they can tune the 850 & later variants of TLC NAND for optimal performance, probably Intel is the only other SSD maker that has all its (own made) components go inside the SSD.

SLC is the fastest, most expensive & least dense of the 3 & that's why it isn't used in anything except SLC caching, by some TLC drives. The last SLC drive was by Intel, I think 16GB or something, they aren't coming back because for a given capacity they are way more expensive.
 
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Imo, go with 850 Evo and go for the biggest capacity you can get for the money. Unless you need raw throughput in MB/s, SATA3 is still excellent option. It's access time that benefits you the most, not so much raw throughput.

As for SLC, with 3D NAND, I don't think there is really need for it. Samsung 850 drives for the most part reach 1PB of writes or even more. You really have to be super power user to get anywhere close to that. I have my 850 Pro 2TB for like 2+ years now and I'm at only 13GB of writes so far. It's more likely something else will fail, like controller or something.

Going this big SSD was probably one of the most expensive investments I've made and I think it was one of the best ever, even at the given price. Eliminating heat, HDD clicking and boosting all around performance made a dramatic difference. And unlike graphic cards which get outdated in 2-3 years, SSD never really gets outdated. Getting too small is not something it'll ever happen in 2-3 years.
 

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Yes it is, because of MLC & probably controller as well.
The MX300 performance is all over the place, BX 300(?) is far more consistent & isn't TLC of course, though it could also be down to the controller the MX has.


What? The two perform pretty near identically. Both basically maxing out SATAIII.

The reality is no one is going to notice a performance difference between any current gen SATAIII SSD in real usage.
 
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What? The two perform pretty near identically. Both basically maxing out SATAIII.

The reality is no one is going to notice a performance difference between any current gen SATAIII SSD in real usage.
No offense but I was looking at this ~ https://www.anandtech.com/print/11766/the-crucial-bx300-480gb-ssd-review-back-to-mlc

The MX 300 is generally considered a poor choice wrt BX300 though as you said, in real world their is very little difference between any modern SATA III SSD or even NVMe drives for that matter.
 
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Yes, but it also depends on the SSD manufacturer & the controller. Since Samsung make their own NAND & controller, they can tune the 850 & later variants of TLC NAND for optimal performance, probably Intel is the only other SSD maker that has all its (own made) components go inside the SSD.

SLC is the fastest, most expensive & least dense of the 3 & that's why it isn't used in anything except SLC caching, by some TLC drives. The last SLC drive was by Intel, I think 16GB or something, they aren't coming back because for a given capacity they are way more expensive.

Kind of a shame that Intel/Micron isn't identical to Samsung (with their own controllers, etc.. and drives that are competitive to Samsung). They've got all the ingredients to be. I'm not impressed by anything except 3D XPoint, but that's niche.
 
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If I was to put all 3 in ya PC such that i could choose which one the box booted from via the BIOS, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Of course I am not talking about timing 1 TB copy / pastes or video editing movie length videos w/ premiere. But in every day PC usage for 98% of us, its not something you would notice if someone snuck in at night and swapped ya SSDs. We have done blind comparisons twice for 6 week durations, whereby 5 users were unaware whether they were booting / using HD, SSD or SSD on a desktop equipped with 2 SSDs / SSHDs and 1 HD. It was repeated w/ laptops using SSD + HD versus SSHD alone. Each user spent at least 5 days with each storage unit. Users were told that we were monitoring suspected performance impacts from Windows updates and to report any observed changes. On 1 occasion 1 user said boot time **seemed** (he was using HD that day) slower. Measured boot times were:

Seagate 7200 rpm HD = 21.2 secs
Seagate 7200 rpm SSHD = 16.5 secs
Samsing Evo SSD = 15.6 secs

I'm not saying that there aren't performance differences. It's just that in the normal course of doing what one does every day, most folks don't notice. For example, I sit down at my desk press power on, while it's booting, I am listening to voice mails on my office phone. So does it really matter how long it takes to boot If the user is not available to make a keystroke till long after it's done booting ? The user, not the storage system is the biggest PC bottleneck. Yes, you can link to "opening Chrome w/ 100 tabs" or other storage subsystem intensive tasks but the reality is, most don't do such tasks frequently. For those that do, then it will have a positive ROI.

Now that being said, being a geek and I like to buy fast stuff and the cost isn't really a concern (within reason), but for folks w/ budget restrictions, ya really have to weigh the "real benefit" with the "user bottleneck" versus the perceived benefit. Take an office suite scripted benchmark and the SSD will crush a HD ... but have users input each keystroke in that script on a typical file of the type they use every day, no ROI there. On a new box, for someone w/ budget limitations, I'm more likely to recommend throwing an extra $200 inn to a GFX card than an SSD.

Gamers are likely to be most interested but fitting gaming libraries in an affordable space is challenging. In the game I play most often, storage doesn't enter the equation as the server handshaking is the bottleneck. But even here, if my SSD is getting me say 10 seconds, it isn't really changing my life in any way. I'm not going to reach another save point or complete an additional quest. So if it fits ya budget, of course why not ?... but if budget limited and other upgrade options are potentially on the table, then maybe other factors have to be weighed.

Have $1000 for an upgrade ? I like option 2

Option 1 = $550 1080 + $450 SSD
Option 2 = $750 1080 Ti + $250 SSD
 
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