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Intel Hires Raja Koduri, to Develop Discrete GPUs, This Time for Real

natr0n said:
This shit keeps getting more weird.
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YOU GOT THAT RIGHT !

The prognostications and speculations just keep getting wilder and wilder. It's like a contest to see who has the most fertile imagination. Intel buy RTG outright from AMD ? Hey btarunr pass that Waterpipe my way !

BTW something else for people to consider. The state of the art in Silicon Semiconductors will be pretty close to the end in 3 or 4 years. There will be few if any node shrinks to put extra transistors. GloFo will be at 7nm (maybe 5nm) and Intel will be at 5nm. By 2025 Samsung will be at 4nm and TSMC at 3nm.

Jermelescu said:
Is there any GPU Jim Keller AMD can hire to bounce back into the game?
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Who says AMD is out of the GPU Game ? Vega and Navi are almost finished and there are plenty of other people at RTG capable of finishing the job.
 
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2901BitSlice said:
Who says AMD is out of the GPU Game ? Vega and Navi are almost finished and there are plenty of other people at RTG capable of finishing the job.
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I'm not denying that there are some great folks working at RTG, but I believe that the firm needs a very capable guy to lead the big bounce back to take the lead in performance & efficiency and even if I'm an AMD fanboy myself I sincerely doubt Navi will be a game changer.
 
Failures? No. Disappointment both internally and externally for gaming, yup. For compute... not so bad. :)
 
Now Intel can create GPUs to compete against AMD and Nvidia? Nvidia and AMD does not hold all licenses of this segment? O-o
 
R0H1T said:
Unless Raja does a Levandowski wrt Waymo, Intel will still need a good number of years before they come close to the current AMD let alone Nvidia in the dGPU business, these two are just way ahead of the pack including ARM ones.
Most likely enterprise driven for now, there's just way too much money left on the table for Nvidia & Intel can't let that happen.Intel to Develop Discrete GPUs, Hires Raja Koduri as Chief Architect & Senior VP
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Bollocks! If Raja hires the right people, and given a big budget, they can smoke both AMD and nVidia. Well...maybe, but definitely they will have a competent GPU.
 
Prima.Vera said:
Bollocks! If Raja hires the right people, and given a big budget, they can smoke both AMD and nVidia. Well...maybe, but definitely they will have a competent GPU.
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It takes a number of years to go from Intel Iris whatever to what Polaris or Vega are capable of today & I don't see Intel matching Volta anytime before 2021, by then Nvidia would be way ahead in the graphics/gaming department. I can agree that the computing (strictly compute) landscape can change very rapidly, provided Intel have laid some groundwork for Raja to work on. If Intel is starting from scratch, in both cases ~ computing & gaming/high end graphics then it'll take them at the very least 2 years i.e. around 2020 to match AMD, Nvidia's current offerings.
 
While I called this the other day I have to wonder why he doesn’t have some kinda non-compete clause in his contract.
 
Yup, called it as well... though I guess AI... :)

It is quite typical to see a non-compete.. I am very surprised he didn't have one...

Turns out... its california... ;)
 
2901BitSlice said:
Who says AMD is out of the GPU Game ? Vega and Navi are almost finished and there are plenty of other people at RTG capable of finishing the job.
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Exactly, I'm quite sure folks like Mike Mantor can work away on their own initiative/or move into the vacant spot perhaps.
 
I guess a gaming card based on a completely new design in 4-5 years would be just a side product similar to Vega.
IF he even stays that long at Intel...
 
I find it very strange too to see Raja, former head of RTG, become head of graphics departement in a potentially competing firm such Intel. Two possibilities. One being AMD doing what AMD always did, aka don't pay attention to strategic choices and leaving Raja free to do whatever he wants. or two, this is a big plan AMD and Intel were putting together, and raja is the key, becoming an intermediate figure to obtain a sort of new cooperation between the two, to gain faster results on the Intel graphics side of things and facilitate the transition...
 
cucker tarlson said:
Is it Intel hires Raja or Intel acquires RTG ? Cause although I''m a layman I think all intellectual property rights do not tranfer to Intel only cause they hired Raja, neither what you develop for a company you're working for becomes yours when you quit.
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Not sure if you were being sardonic with that question. If you were, I apologize for not getting your jest; however:

Working for a company, all IP belongs to the company. The same goes in the academic sector except you just get to have your name on the projects (usually research) in a clearer fashion than in small print or "thanks for so-and-so for their part". If the IP is created/made/whatever during the course of employment for an employer, it belongs to the employer. Else (being that IP is created/made/whatever other than in the course of employment), it is owned by the employee. That is the general rule-of-thumb.

You NEVER share your best ideas with your coworkers, bosses/supervisors, or project/research/academic mentors. Trust me, been there and done that. Some people are scum and I'll leave it at that. Sorry, I got semi-triggered.

Plus, it ain't going to stop one company from acquiring IP of another through corporate espionage, borderline sniping of employees from other companies, or just straight-up theft disguised in such a way as to hide the source of the IP to begin with (IP laundering, in-a-way; though, I have most likely used that term incorrectly from a legal sense).
 
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Don't employee's that high up usually have clauses in their contracts that prevent them from joining a competitor?
 
Diverge said:
Don't employee's that high up usually have clauses in their contracts that prevent them from joining a competitor?
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Usually, no. Not for higher-ups. Those clauses are usually reserved for employment contracts at the entry and middle levels.
 
ironcerealbox said:
Usually, no. Not for higher-ups. Those clauses are usually reserved for employment contracts at the entry and middle levels.
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Not really... I have seen it at mid level (Ive signed them working for an East Coast Water Utility as a Data Center Manager/Operator) but more so in the suit level its more common... at least in IT.

(merge your double posts. ;))

EDIT: Or thank me, and leave your double posts... :p
 
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The big question is how many engineers of RTG are going to follow him to Intel. Just a few missing key people could f**k up AMDs competitiveness even more...
 
AMD is going to have a field day with this if they use any of their parents or technology, and I'm sure it's just a race to that eventuality unless Intel is going to start paying royalties.
 
Can someone tell me how AMD is even allowing this? I would have bet a good amount of money that AMD would have saddled him with a non-compete agreement when he left AMD but here he's going to Intel? Seriously, was AMD that stupid?
 
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