• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Microsoft Issues Update to Rollback Intel Spectre, Meltdown Problematic Patches

Raevenlord

News Editor
Joined
Aug 12, 2016
Messages
3,755 (1.35/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name The Ryzening
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard MSI X570 MAG TOMAHAWK
Cooling Lian Li Galahad 360mm AIO
Memory 32 GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3733 (4x 8 GB)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 3070 Ti
Storage Boot: Transcend MTE220S 2TB, Kintson A2000 1TB, Seagate Firewolf Pro 14 TB
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG270UP (1440p 144 Hz IPS)
Case Lian Li O11DX Dynamic White
Audio Device(s) iFi Audio Zen DAC
Power Supply Seasonic Focus+ 750 W
Mouse Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Keyboard Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Software Windows 10 x64
Multiple reports pegged some issues on Intel's rapid-fire, microcode and software response towards addressing the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities, with Intel themselves coming forward, admitting to the problems' existence, and urging users not to perform said updates. However, Intel's press release wasn't very clear on whether or not users would be able to rollback changes in order to recover their machines' stability. Microsoft has taken the matter into its own hands, via an out of band update for Windows, KB4078130, that specifically disables only the mitigation against CVE-2017-5715 - "Branch target injection vulnerability."

In Microsoft's testing, this particular update is the one that the company has found to be associated the most with stability issues on host machines, and their out of band update seems to mitigate these completely. Microsoft is also adding the possibility for users to either disable or enable the troublesome mitigation themselves, manually, via registry changes. Microsoft seems to have taken the job of cleaning house on themselves, after Intel's apparent hasty move to restore security to systems based on their CPUs.



View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Aug 2, 2011
Messages
1,448 (0.31/day)
Processor Ryzen 9 7950X3D
Motherboard MSI X670E MPG Carbon Wifi
Cooling Custom loop, 2x360mm radiator,Lian Li UNI, EK XRes140,EK Velocity2
Memory 2x16GB G.Skill DDR5-6400 @ 6400MHz C32
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra OC Scanner core +750 mem
Storage MP600 2TB,960 EVO 1TB,XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB,Micron 1100 2TB,OCZ Vector 512GB,1.5TB Caviar Green
Display(s) Acer X34S, Acer XB270HU
Case LianLi O11 Dynamic White
Audio Device(s) Logitech G-Pro X Wireless
Power Supply EVGA P3 1200W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Logitech G512 Carbon w/ GX Brown
VR HMD HP Reverb G2 (V2)
Software Win 11
One of their updates had started to prevent my machine from booting properly. I had been ignoring it as long as I can.

Looks like this update was the one that was at issue. Thanks Microsoft...
 

the54thvoid

Intoxicated Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
12,378 (2.37/day)
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s) LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software W10
Tried to install Asus AI suite (for fan control). The recent update borked it. Tried new version and bloody hell, thought I'd lost my PC to reboot hell.
Talk about knock on effects. Currently running Prime after having to reset bios and retune. Thanks MS or AMD or whoever.
 
Joined
Mar 20, 2008
Messages
885 (0.15/day)
System Name Raptor
Processor Core i7 13700K
Motherboard MSI Z690 Tomahawk WiFi
Cooling ArcticFreezer 420
Memory Corsair VENGEANCE® 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 5600MHz C36
Video Card(s) Palit GameRock 3080Ti OC
Storage M.2 Addlink S70 Lite , Samsung SSD 980 PRO 2TB, SanDisk Ultra II 480GB, 1TB seagate
Display(s) ASUS TUF VG27AQL1A
Case LANCOOL III
Audio Device(s) Realtek® ALC4080 Codec + Philips SHP9500
Power Supply Seasonic GX-1000
Mouse G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard ASUS CERBERUS
Software Windows 10
That trash update destroyed my windows and I had to reset it and turn-off the damn windows update which always degraded PC performance , I used to delay windows update for as long as I can for the sake of stability and my PC was always clean and stable , guess I'm back to main updates only as it is always the right way to go for me.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
20,780 (5.97/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor i7 8700k 4.6Ghz @ 1.24V
Motherboard AsRock Fatal1ty K6 Z370
Cooling beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200/C16
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 830 256GB + Crucial BX100 250GB + Toshiba 1TB HDD
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Fractal Design Define R5
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse XTRFY M42
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W10 x64
In some weird way I always seem to avoid all these problems while letting auto updating do its thing.

Perhaps its my great looks... weird stuff
 

INSTG8R

Vanguard Beta Tester
Joined
Nov 26, 2004
Messages
7,955 (1.13/day)
Location
Canuck in Norway
System Name Hellbox 5.1(same case new guts)
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard MSI X570S MAG Torpedo Max
Cooling TT Kandalf L.C.S.(Water/Air)EK Velocity CPU Block/Noctua EK Quantum DDC Pump/Res
Memory 2x16GB Gskill Trident Neo Z 3600 CL16
Video Card(s) Powercolor Hellhound 7900XTX
Storage 970 Evo Plus 500GB 2xSamsung 850 Evo 500GB RAID 0 1TB WD Blue Corsair MP600 Core 2TB
Display(s) Alienware QD-OLED 34” 3440x1440 144hz 10Bit VESA HDR 400
Case TT Kandalf L.C.S.
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster ZX/Logitech Z906 5.1
Power Supply Seasonic TX~’850 Platinum
Mouse G502 Hero
Keyboard G19s
VR HMD Oculus Quest 2
Software Win 10 Pro x64
Tried to install Asus AI suite (for fan control). The recent update borked it. Tried new version and bloody hell, thought I'd lost my PC to reboot hell.
Talk about knock on effects. Currently running Prime after having to reset bios and retune. Thanks MS or AMD or whoever.
This is the reason I have been blocking it. I can't use the new version it doesn't even see my sensors so useless for fan control...
 
Joined
Jan 3, 2015
Messages
2,873 (0.85/day)
System Name The beast and the little runt.
Processor Ryzen 5 5600X - Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING - ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570
Cooling Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a - NH-D15 chromax.black with IPPC Industrial 3000 RPM 120/140 MM fans.
Memory G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD/SILVER 32 GB (2 x 16 GB and 4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volts
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE RTX 4060 OC LOW PROFILE - GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC
Storage Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + 2 TB - Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB - 2 x WD RED PRO 16 GB + WD ULTRASTAR 22 TB
Display(s) Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A and a Dell 24" for dual setup
Case Phanteks Enthoo 719/LUXE 2 BLACK
Audio Device(s) Onboard on both boards
Power Supply Phanteks Revolt X 1200W
Mouse Logitech G903 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse
Keyboard Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Software WINDOWS 10 PRO 64 BITS on both systems
Benchmark Scores Se more about my 2 in 1 system here: kortlink.dk/2ca4x
I dit not get in trouble, but thats is properly because i have disable windows update for now and awaiting those meldown/spectra problems to be solved.

Back in december 2017 windows update completly fucked up my install so had to waste two freaking days of my vacation to get it up and run again. So take no chances this time around. But maybe its time to update now with this fix.
 
Joined
Aug 30, 2006
Messages
7,195 (1.12/day)
System Name ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5472
Memory 2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card(s) HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3400
Display(s) 2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2
Software Windows Server 2003 R2 as a Workstation now migrated to W10 with regrets.
And this is why I hate W10 forced updates. For those who have successfully disabled automatic updates to manual, I would be grateful for a good link to a tutorial. My attempts have not been so successful: either updates and forced reboots are still occurring, on one machine, OR, Winupdate is so disabled that I can't even manually update anymore. MS really farked up the update system. Can we class action MS for forcing failure on to us without our agreement?
 
Joined
Jan 3, 2015
Messages
2,873 (0.85/day)
System Name The beast and the little runt.
Processor Ryzen 5 5600X - Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING - ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570
Cooling Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a - NH-D15 chromax.black with IPPC Industrial 3000 RPM 120/140 MM fans.
Memory G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD/SILVER 32 GB (2 x 16 GB and 4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volts
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE RTX 4060 OC LOW PROFILE - GIGABYTE RTX 4090 GAMING OC
Storage Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + 2 TB - Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB - 2 x WD RED PRO 16 GB + WD ULTRASTAR 22 TB
Display(s) Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A and a Dell 24" for dual setup
Case Phanteks Enthoo 719/LUXE 2 BLACK
Audio Device(s) Onboard on both boards
Power Supply Phanteks Revolt X 1200W
Mouse Logitech G903 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse
Keyboard Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Software WINDOWS 10 PRO 64 BITS on both systems
Benchmark Scores Se more about my 2 in 1 system here: kortlink.dk/2ca4x
And this is why I hate W10 forced updates. For those who have successfully disabled automatic updates to manual, I would be grateful for a good link to a tutorial. My attempts have not been so successful: either updates and forced reboots are still occurring, on one machine, OR, Winupdate is so disabled that I can't even manually update anymore. MS really farked up the update system. Can we class action MS for forcing failure on to us without our agreement?

To do it right. In Search beside windows start button type in "services" and klik it/open it. scroll down to windows update (it shut be down the buttom). dobble klik and in the first fan there shut be something called starttype and klik that fan next to it, you shut have 3 or 4 different to chose from: Automatic (delay start), automatic, manuel or deactivated. You can properly take your self from here. Manuel you can chose update our self but has to be done with in 3 day after update become accessible cause else windows update will still do it automatic. So I deactivated until I am ready to install new updates and you can off cause set it to manuel when you are ready to update and then done disable it again.

It shut look something like this.
 
Joined
Mar 20, 2008
Messages
885 (0.15/day)
System Name Raptor
Processor Core i7 13700K
Motherboard MSI Z690 Tomahawk WiFi
Cooling ArcticFreezer 420
Memory Corsair VENGEANCE® 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 5600MHz C36
Video Card(s) Palit GameRock 3080Ti OC
Storage M.2 Addlink S70 Lite , Samsung SSD 980 PRO 2TB, SanDisk Ultra II 480GB, 1TB seagate
Display(s) ASUS TUF VG27AQL1A
Case LANCOOL III
Audio Device(s) Realtek® ALC4080 Codec + Philips SHP9500
Power Supply Seasonic GX-1000
Mouse G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard ASUS CERBERUS
Software Windows 10
And this is why I hate W10 forced updates. For those who have successfully disabled automatic updates to manual, I would be grateful for a good link to a tutorial. My attempts have not been so successful: either updates and forced reboots are still occurring, on one machine, OR, Winupdate is so disabled that I can't even manually update anymore. MS really farked up the update system. Can we class action MS for forcing failure on to us without our agreement?

I found that disabling the service doesn't cut it all the way as recently MS do enable the update service even after you disable it , so what I did is limit the download bandwidth to almost nothing :

press on your keyboard : windows + R and type "gpedit.msc" to run Local Group Policy editor ( assuming you have window 10 pro not Home edition)

From the left panel select and open (administrative templates) folder under (Computer Configuration ) then (Windows components ) then (Delivery Optimization ).



From the right panel Double-click on (Maximum Download Bandwidth (in KB/s)) , then select enable then below put the speed to 1 KB/s then restart and good luck to windows update trying to update with 1KB/s.



To reset back to default select (Not Configured ) .

On windows 10 build 1709 and newer you have the option to assign your connection as "metered" that also will reduce the updates to minimum if you don't want to use Local Group Policy editor .
 
Last edited:
Joined
Mar 24, 2010
Messages
5,047 (0.99/day)
Location
Iberian Peninsula
After the first patches (guessing, includes MS, Intel and BIOS updates) I had a couple of days of BSOD. More updates came and I am perfectyly fine ATM. So... I am not liking this direction things are taking....
 
Joined
Aug 2, 2012
Messages
1,759 (0.41/day)
Location
Netherlands
System Name TheDeeGee's PC
Processor Intel Core i7-11700
Motherboard ASRock Z590 Steel Legend
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory Crucial Ballistix 3200/C16 4x8GB
Video Card(s) Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti 12GB
Storage Crucial P5 Plus 2TB / Crucial P3 Plus 2TB / Crucial P3 Plus 4TB
Display(s) EIZO CX240
Case Fractal Design Define 7
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster ZXR, AKG K601 Headphones
Power Supply Seasonic Fanless TX-700
Mouse Logitech G500s
Keyboard Keychron Q6
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Benchmark Scores None, as long as my games runs smooth.
No issues here, but i'm still on 1703.
 
Joined
Oct 1, 2010
Messages
2,361 (0.48/day)
Location
Marlow, ENGLAND
System Name Chachamaru-IV | Retro Battlestation
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X | Intel Pentium II 450MHz
Motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F Gaming | MSI MS-6116 (Intel 440BX chipset)
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
Memory 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 (16-20-20-38) | 512MB PC133 SDRAM
Video Card(s) nVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 FE | 3dfx Voodoo3 3000
Storage 1TB WD_Black SN850 NVME SSD (OS), Toshiba 3TB (Storage), Toshiba 3TB (Steam)
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G5 27" @ 1440p144 & Dell P2312H @ 1080p60
Case SilverStone Seta A1 | Beige box
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster AE-7 (Speakers), Creative Zen Hybrid headset | Sound Blaster AWE64
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 750 G2 | 250W ASETEC
Mouse Roccat Kone Air| Microsoft Serial Mouse v2.0A
Keyboard Vortex Race3 | Dell AT102W
Software Microsoft Windows 11 Pro | Microsoft Windows 98SE
Does anyone know when this update was/is released? I haven't had anything since the 11th.
 
Joined
Mar 24, 2010
Messages
5,047 (0.99/day)
Location
Iberian Peninsula
I clicked on your link and found this is "For..... Windows 10 LTSB, etc." Long Term Small Business", wow another flavour!

I am on Fast Ring build 17083, and have not gotten this
 
Joined
Apr 12, 2013
Messages
6,728 (1.68/day)
I clicked on your link and found this is "For..... Windows 10 LTSB, etc." Long Term Small Business", wow another flavour!

I am on Fast Ring build 17083, and have not gotten this
LTSB is Long Term Servicing Branch not another flavor of Windows, it's pretty much MS' equivalent of esr FF from Mozilla.
 
Top