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AMD On Track to Return to Athlon 64 Market Share Levels

Well under worrysome points.. Gaming is upper 50s to low 60s. Stress testing is 20-30C above that depending on what test and if I have HT enabled. With HT enabled I'm in the upper 80s to 90 running P95 Small FFT. With OCCT FPU only, I reach a bit over 80C in a 25C room. The HEDT processors are on 3x120 loop while 8700K is Corsair H115i AIO.


That said, this isn't the place to discuss it... but clearly they are well under control and happily clocking WELL past their default all core boost clocks by quite a margin.... all on the 'crappy' intel paste. I have to say that a 900 MHz overclock, a 1.1 GHz overclock and a 800 MHz overclock (all using all cores/threads) is pretty good. Fans on the 3x120mm are locked at 800RPM and nearly dead silent. The H115i happily chugs along doing its thing as well.
I honestly cant see why people make such a big deal about these companies and their products. At the end all be all they only care about profit margins. As a consumer I get the best at what I want for the price I want to spend, simple. I have 2 PCs sitting side by side(x99/x399) don't care about the tug a war I just use them for the purposes.
 
Me either... but everyone has their passions. Some rooted in facts, others, fantasy. Now, the Intel TIM could be better and perhaps its taking off 100-200Mhz depending (anything more than that is gravy and rare), but the fact remains they overclock pretty damn well...better by leaps and bounds than current Ryzen offerings with solder (always a point glossed over by the Intel TIM haters, LOL!). We will see what Zen+ brings soon, but the real Ryzen is in Zen 2...

This is nothing but good for all of us, AMD finally brings out a competitive product and wakes up (I don't call it panic...) Intel to stop resting on their laurels.
 
So true we just need the gpu/ram market to stabilize. I am very tempted at the moment to sell my 2 Vega 64s and just rock out with 780/290 for the time being.
 
Non-forum dwellers still defaultly prefer Intel.

I'd argue it's the other way around , it's the forum dwellers which are the avid fanboys. On the other hand , the average Joe is likely to be swayed away by a bunch of fancy charts in a split second anytime of the day.

but a huge defeat in 2019.

Ain't nothing like a good fortune teller. Any chance we can take a look at that fancy crystal ball you got there mate ?
 
AMD is only safe up to the 1H 2019.

Nvidia has a new GPU architecture coming out in 2019. (Andy Glew/Scot Hildebrandt/etc)
Intel has a new CPU architecture coming out in 2019. (Folsom/SoftMachines/etc)

A pyrrhic victory for 2017/2018, but a huge defeat in 2019.

Who would pay this terrible, terrible troll/shill?

Pro tip: You have to make it sounds reasonably true. We know intel has nothing new and we know Nvidia has nothing new. Oops, you've been exposed...by yourself.
 
Non-forum dwellers still defaultly prefer Intel. Nothing will really change until their opinion will. Slowly, and maybe.

The 'average person' will buy AMD when enough of us tech-heads tell them that it's a good way to save extra $$ when buying/building a PC, especially now when graphics cards and ram are so expensive, saving $50-$100 over an Intel build is important. It's up to us to make it known to our circle of friends/familly/co-workers that AMD is a great option. That's how it happened back in the 1990s and 2000s with the 386/486/K6-2/Athlon/Athlon 64/Phenom, etc., and that's how it will happen again. It's also important for us to speak up if we're at a computer store, and a salesperson says anything non-factual about AMD, like 'they have buggier motherboards' or 'they're the low-end option'. At this point, AMD is not the 'low-end' option, they are the smarter option.
 
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