AMD Beats NVIDIA's Performance in the Battlefield V Closed Alpha

[londiste]

With that TPU review picture you mean to say that equal cards are equal?

 

[las]

Who says that's the case ? You ?

Yeah I don't care about low and mid-end GPU's

 

[Vya Domus]

The horror ....1% difference from a Reference card vs an AIB one.....

Well I would have shown the 4K one but apparently in the virtual world he lives where anything outside 1080p does not exist that's irrelevant.

 

[I No]

Well I would have shown the 4K one but apparently in the virtual world he lives where anything outside 1080p does not exist that's irrelevant.

No one in their right minds would spend $250 and expect 4K out of that GPU...

 

[Vya Domus]

No one in their right minds would spend $250 and expect 4K out of that GPU...

Which is relevant because of what ? GPU grunt is GPU grunt , the 580 has more of it.

Today's game at 4K is tomorrow's game running at 1080p in terms of load , things evolve.

 

[I No]

Which is relevant because of what ? GPU grunt is GPU grunt , the 580 has more of it.

Dude if you have the money for a 4k panel your GPU buget must be over $250. Otherwise is just like buying a Mercedes with a VW Polo engine.. Wtf... They can render those resolutions but hell no they can't damn play it... Seriously that's a 1080p card and it will die as a 1080p card and at that resolution it's on par with the competition. Give it a rest

 

[Vya Domus]

Dude if you have the money for a 4k panel your GPU buget must be over $250. Otherwise is just like buying a Mercedes with a VW Polo engine.. Wtf... They can render those resolutions but hell no they can't damn play it... Seriously that's a 1080p card and it will die as a 1080p card

It's telling because it shows which card is more powerful in absolute terms. This BF5 alpha benchmark or whatever isn't relevant now but that's going to become the norm once support for Pascal weakens.

 

[I No]

It's telling because it shows which card is more powerful in absolute terms. This BF5 alpha benchmark or whatever isn't relevant now but that's going to become the norm once support for Pascal weakens.

And what is the guarantee that AMD's support will stay the same?..... Those charts and graphs are the way they are because some of the games favor AMD or nVidia by a long margin that's what skews the results. The cards are the same it just comes down to price... Get whichever is cheaper they both perform the same overall, 1% isn't ground breaking and that might be well within the margin of error...

 

[Vya Domus]

And what is the guarantee that AMD's support will stay the same?

That's the thing , it doesn't need to stay the same , due to architectural design choices GCN suffers less from lack of optimizations. "Fine wine" or whatever fanboys called was wrongfully attributed to "improvements over time from drivers" , nothing actually improves , it's rather about the lack of improvement on Nvidia'as side after a while.

1% isn't ground breaking

No , it's not ground breaking, but it's there to the absolute horror of few that scrabble to find explanations on how their dear color is still superior.

 

[MuhammedAbdo]

You mean this imaginary alpha build victory ?

No I mean this:
A week ago and in 27 games, the 1060 is 3% faster overall. Despite the mystical delusions of FineWine and despite DX12 and Vulkan games.

whatever isn't relevant now but that's going to become the norm once support for Pascal weakens.

Pascal support weakens? LOL! That's the most pathetic justification I've heard in a while!

 

[Vya Domus]

Pascal support weakens? LOL! That's the most pathetic justification I've heard in a while!

Justification? Of what ? What am I trying to justify exactly.

 

[dozenfury]

It seems odd to run comparison benchmarks on an closed alpha or give much credence to them. Performance numbers for games this far before launch, and without launch drivers, aren't really indicative of much imo. And I would say that for either red or green numbers for any game this far before release. About the only takeaway I'd have is that it BF V seems to be coded to like more memory and it seems to be working well with DX12.

Also keep in mind DX12 was beyond buggy with BF 1 and most players including me went back to DX11 just to even get the game to be stable. It's an example of why numbers this early are kind of like taking a bite of food that's half cooked and trying to decide how good it will be when it's finished.

 

[Xaled]

This just proves onve again that nVidia's leadership is just fake ..
No problem nVidia will soon bribe DICE so they let AMD cards run slower.

 

[I No]

This just proves onve again that nVidia's leadership is just fake ..
No problem nVidia will soon bribe DICE so they let AMD cards run slower.

Oh you must have some inside information, please share with the class.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

No I mean this:
A week ago and in 27 games, the 1060 is 3% faster overall. Despite the mystical delusions of FineWine and despite DX12 and Vulkan games.

2% of that is because of Frostpunk (which clearly has problems on AMD hardware). When they remove it, the difference is 1%. Then if we compare specific titles between HardwareUnboxed compared to TechPowerUp, like Hitman, TPU shows a 4% advantage RX 580 versus HardwareUnboxed's 1%. How can that be? They use the same processor with TPU at 4.8 GHz versus HU at 5.0 GHz. Only answer I can come up with is the test GTX 1060 has higher clockspeeds.

 

[Xaled]

Oh you must have some inside information, please share with the class.

you dont need to have an inside guy when games that are being developed with nVidia become shitty after were amazing when were being developed with AMD. for instance: Battlefield.

 

[R0H1T]

We need more tiki torches, let's burn'em at the stake!

 

[cucker tarlson]

2% of that is because of Frostpunk (which clearly has problems on AMD hardware). When they remove it, the difference is 1%. Then if we compare specific titles between HardwareUnboxed compared to TechPowerUp, like Hitman, TPU shows a 4% advantage RX 580 versus HardwareUnboxed's 1%. How can that be? They use the same processor with TPU at 4.8 GHz versus HU at 5.0 GHz. Only answer I can come up with is the test GTX 1060 has higher clockspeeds.

Frostpunk is a great new game, it should be included and it's AMD problem that they can't optimize it. 580 is a better card overall (extra +2GB vram) , regardless of the 2% advantage of the 1060.Stop cherry picking games you children. As for the power draw discussion: it's a vaild point that 1060 has noticeably lower power draw, but as long as you're below 200W, AIB cooling solutions will make this a moot point, they can deal with 190W-200W and not even break a sweat. It starts to be a real issue when comparing 200W card like 1080 vs 300W card like, cause apart from extreme air coolers like Lightning Z, ordinary AIB coolers are starting to become insufficient after you approach that +250W mark.

 

[Krzych]

Closed Alpha... Thats digging very deep for a cheap drama. Although thats understandable when there are no new products and no big releases so there are no real topics to cover and get views from. There are no good leaks even, let alone products.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Closed Alpha... Thats digging very deep for a cheap drama. Although thats understandable when there are no new products and no big releases so there are no real topics to cover and get views from. There are no good leaks even, let alone products.

I bet adoredtv is already preparing a video on this

 

[HD64G]

To make things clear about DX12, its main purpose is to get off the weight of the game engine from CPU (as much as possible) and offload it to GPU. So, when CPU is very powerful, less gains there are to get in FPS. And it usually benefits AMD GPUs more because they have more raw power and they are bottlenecked easier by the CPU. Their drivers used to have more cpu overhead also and so, another possible gain from this for older games not well optimised at least. So, for a new game based on DX11 to have much faster performance on AMD GPUs, it is a sign of not good optimisation for nVidia which is weird as I previously said for a game sponsored (=partly paid) by the green team.

2% of that is because of Frostpunk (which clearly has problems on AMD hardware). When they remove it, the difference is 1%. Then if we compare specific titles between HardwareUnboxed compared to TechPowerUp, like Hitman, TPU shows a 4% advantage RX 580 versus HardwareUnboxed's 1%. How can that be? They use the same processor with TPU at 4.8 GHz versus HU at 5.0 GHz. Only answer I can come up with is the test GTX 1060 has higher clockspeeds.

In fact Steve from HU who reviewed them said that both of them were oced if I remember well.

 

[cucker tarlson]

So, for a new game based on DX11 to have much faster performance on AMD GPUs, it is a sign of not good optimisation for nVidia which is weird as I previously said for a game sponsored (=partly paid) by the green team.

Lol, except it doesn't cause it's not even in its beta stage atm.
Here's what's gonna happen - the game launches in october, nvidia wins by +5% in dx11, amd wins by +5% in dx12, both gtx 1060 and rx580 run 1080p/60 no problems. Amd fanboys keep complaining about gameworks even though they're so demanding that rx580 gets 35 fps and 1060 gets 40 fps and neither 580 nor 1060 owners even think about enabling them seriously but adoretv has new "material" to work with.

you dont need to have an inside guy when games that are being developed with nVidia become shitty after were amazing when were being developed with AMD. for instance: Battlefield.

Here's a soothing tune for you

 

[Xaled]

..
Here's what's gonna happen - the game launches in october, nvidia wins by +5% in dx11, amd wins by +5% in dx12, both gtx 1060 and rx580 run 1080p/60 no problems. ..

it is 2018/h2 and nVidia fans are still thankful for getting 1080/60 from a 300-400$ card!!..

 

[cucker tarlson]

it is 2018/h2 and nVidia fans are still thankful for getting 1080/60 from a 300-400$ card!!..

Well I'm glad AMD fans cherish the fact that they at least have Vega for that.

 

[Divide Overflow]

Coming soon: Battlefield V now with nVidia Hairworks mandatory implementation!