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Yangtze Memory Technologies to Debut New, Ultra-Fast 3D NAND Architecture and Deliver Keynote at Flash Memory Summit 2018

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Yangtze Memory Technologies Co., Ltd (YMTC), a new player in the NAND industry, will be joining Flash Memory Summit this year for the first time, delivering a much-anticipated keynote address to reveal its ground-breaking technology - Xtacking. YMTC is the first Chinese company to take part in the high-entry-barrier NAND flash memory industry with its new architecture for unprecedented performance, higher bit density, and faster time-to-market.

Simon Yang, YMTC CEO, will deliver a keynote address, Unleashing 3D NAND's Potential with an Innovative Architecture, on August 7th, from 3:00 p.m. at the Mission Ballroom in the Santa Clara Convention Center, where he will illustrate how the company's new technology can increase NAND I/O speed up to DRAM DDR4 while delivering industry-leading bit density, marking a quantum leap for the NAND market.





The Xtacking technology will enable the production of NAND that has unprecedented I/O speed and as a result, increase the performance of NAND solutions such as embedded UFS, client SSD, and enterprise SSD to a level that is unheard of. With help from customers, industry partners, and standard bodies, Xtacking will bring in a whole new chapter in high performance NAND solutions for smartphone, personal computing, data center, and enterprise applications.

The Xtacking technology enables parallel processing of the NAND array and periphery. This modular approach to 3D NAND development and manufacturing will shorten the time-to-market for new generation of 3D NAND and open the possibility for customized NAND flash products.

About Yangtze Memory Technologies Co., Ltd (YMTC):
Founded in 2016 with $24B funding, Yangtze Memory Technologies Co., Ltd. (YMTC) is a memory solutions company headquartered in Wuhan, China. YMTC designs, manufactures and sells memory products and solutions for a broad range of applications including mobile devices, computing, data centers and consumer electronics for customers around the world.

Leveraging its wholly-owned subsidiary XMC's existing 12-inch IC fab in Wuhan, its more than 10 years of memory and specialty IC R&D experience, and international partnerships, YMTC successfully designed and manufactured the first 32-layer 3D NAND flash chip in 2017. With over 3,000 employees and worldwide R&D centers, YMTC is committed to becoming a world leading memory solutions provider through technology innovations.

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No doubt they are funded by the Chinese government and have an ulterior motive. its already bad enough that my own government watches me now ill have a foreign government watching me in the near future. sad that people are so willing to trade with a country that has so many extensive human rights abuse cases, mass surveillance programs and dictates every aspect of what somebody can do without those people being able to stand up and make a change. not to mention the national security issues china poses to the rest of Europe and the world.
 
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As true as that may be, I'm pretty sure nearly every PC here has something made in china in it at this point. That ship has sailed.

ulterior motive.

Why? Why would you need an ulterior motive when the primary motive is already "make a butt-ton of money?"
 

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No doubt they are funded by the Chinese government and have an ulterior motive.
And no doubt that they were also Supplied with IP from Various Sources ( not native to the middle kingdom) that have made this Speedy development possable
 
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I'd argue that I find it hard to implement massive surveillance with just flash memory, but I'll shut my mouth. No doubts someone will definitely try to do so.
 
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As true as that may be, I'm pretty sure nearly every PC here has something made in china in it at this point. That ship has sailed.



Why? Why would you need an ulterior motive when the primary motive is already "make a butt-ton of money?"


im not disagreeing with you that most things are made in china inside a computer but i still make an effort to purchase products from companys that are in countrys who pay their workers fair wages and provide some sort of compensation when they can no longer work for whatever reason that may be. i dont agree with the politics of previous generations in regards to allowing trade with china. i wasnt alive when this stuff happened so there was not anything i could say about it. the only thing i can do is try and navigate as best as i can according to my principles.

onto the second point. people can be patriotic and when talking about the Chinese government this cant be overlooked. those involved and indoctrinated into a train of thought who also live comfortable lives will almost certainly ignore any other train of thought. its their way or the highway (sometimes the grave).
 

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No doubt they are funded by the Chinese government and have an ulterior motive. its already bad enough that my own government watches me now ill have a foreign government watching me in the near future. sad that people are so willing to trade with a country that has so many extensive human rights abuse cases, mass surveillance programs and dictates every aspect of what somebody can do without those people being able to stand up and make a change. not to mention the national security issues china poses to the rest of Europe and the world.

No need to look at China. China has nothing on us.

Good for YMT. I hope they bring real innovation to the market.
 
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No doubt they are funded by the Chinese government and have an ulterior motive. its already bad enough that my own government watches me now ill have a foreign government watching me in the near future. sad that people are so willing to trade with a country that has so many extensive human rights abuse cases, mass surveillance programs and dictates every aspect of what somebody can do without those people being able to stand up and make a change. not to mention the national security issues china poses to the rest of Europe and the world.
In China, many technology companies are state-owned and so they don’t have to worry if massive R&D spending yields losses until a product is commercialized, and even the research of private firms is often subsidized by the government
 
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So, is that Yangtze using the Micron stuff?
 
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….sad that people are so willing to trade with a country that has so many extensive human rights abuse cases, mass surveillance programs and dictates every aspect of what somebody can do without those people being able to stand up and make a change. not to mention the national security issues ….
China is often accused of stealing ideas, they must have got that one from watching America. ;)
 
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I see nobody is commenting about the elephant in the room. "...the company's new technology can increase NAND I/O speed up to DRAM DDR4 speeds while delivering industry-leading bit density, marking a quantum leap for the NAND market."
Not sure if this is just fantasy propaganda or not, but reaching 20GB/s it will trully be a challenge since PCI Express 3.0x16 lines max speed caps somewhere around 16GB/s, not including the overhead, so are they going to develop a new hyper-speed serial interface??
 
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I see nobody is commenting about the elephant in the room. "...the company's new technology can increase NAND I/O speed up to DRAM DDR4 speeds while delivering industry-leading bit density, marking a quantum leap for the NAND market."
Not sure if this is just fantasy propaganda or not, but reaching 20GB/s it will trully be a challenge since PCI Express 3.0x16 lines max speed caps somewhere around 16GB/s, not including the overhead, so are they going to develop a new hyper-speed serial interface??
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Considering NVMe, M2 drives have reached at best 4 GB/s... Really far away from DDR4 speed (which starts at 17 GB/s for DDR4 2133).

Anyway, this technology that we haven't seen yet will reach the enterprise market first (since it will probably be really expensive), where PCIe 4.0 is arriving soon (if it hasn't already), so, if it works as advertised, drives with Xtacking technology could reach 16~20 GBs without collapsing the PCIe bus... Besides, current AMD and Intel CPUs and chipsets for server markets are capable of sustaining that much PCIe bandwidth.

Still, I would withhold judgement until actual products arrive.
 

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Founded in 2016 with $24B funding, Yangtze Memory Technologies Co., Ltd. (YMTC) is a memory solutions company headquartered in Wuhan, China.
Funded by the Chinese government and powered by stolen Micron IP?
 
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Funded by the Chinese government and powered by stolen Micron IP?
This is common knowledge, not even needs investigation.
 
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