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PC Hardware to Get Pricier Stateside as 25% Import Tariffs Take Effect Late-August

atomicus said:
Come on, that's really no 'conspiracy theory', she's clearly got some issues. And besides that, she's no less a crook and charlatan than Trump. There's enough dodgy and questionable history in both their pasts to raise more than a few eyebrows. The US was between a rock and a hard place and you simply went with the more entertaining option.
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Yeah I'm sure the dozen other women feel the same about drumpf, aside from Stormy of course who feared for her life & had to spill the beans on the orange one.
Private entertainment perhaps, unless one prefers golden showers out in the open?
 
Don't worry guys! The tax break that came across from Trump will help offset the price hikes......well, not for me at least, I saw pretty much no tax break. What tax break I did get has already been dumped into the increased gas prices since the start of the year.

I wonder if the price hikes will be immediate (kind of like a few years ago when there was an explosion at a gas refinery somewhere up here in the northern MN/WI area and gas prices almost immediately went up $.50 once the news broke) or if it will trickle in.....?
 
TheinsanegamerN said:
It's a far sight better then the bank bailouts that democrats thought would save the economy, and lead to 8 years of painfully slow recovery. Credit where credit is due, the economy is growing faster under trump then it ever did under obama.
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These tariffs will tank any gains, get back to me in a year I can guarantee things won’t be so rosy
 
Great news, now everything could get more expensive if the manufacturers raise the prices to compensate for the lower sales in the US...
 
Kinda glad it's China, after working in manufacturing for 10+ years I can honestly say their stuff is the absolute cheapest garbage you can get.

As others have pointed out this will lead to a reshuffling of where we source our equipment. Obviously price will be a barrier but I rather spend a little extra on better quality than dealing with chintzy crap.

And no, I voted for neither and went 3rd party.
 
Arpeegee said:
Kinda glad it's China, after working in manufacturing for 10+ years I can honestly say their stuff is the absolute cheapest garbage you can get.

As others have pointed out this will lead to a reshuffling of where we source our equipment. Obviously price will be a barrier but I rather spend a little extra on better quality than dealing with chintzy crap.

And no, I voted for neither and went 3rd party.
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China makes the absolute cheapest garbage we buy in Western countries, except there is a nice brand sticker on it so we can fool ourselves its not from the same factory. And anyone who really thinks the US is suddenly going to get big on manufacturing again when there are still cheaper options is either wishful thinking or simply stupid. And if they really do, it is no more than a new economic crisis in the making, as one day all those jobs will disappear once more. Its short term illusion versus long term damage. Why repeat history?

It's already been proven that we prefer it cheap over 'some misplaced idea of quality'. China can make it all and it does. Most of the time even from the very same factory and by the same hands. Besides its not like the US is all big on high quality, quite the opposite. Just look at cars for a good example. There is a good reason they barely get exported and it really isn't just because they're too big and wasteful.
 
Did someone say "golden showers" ? :roll:
 
atomicus said:
Come on, that's really no 'conspiracy theory', she's clearly got some issues. And besides that, she's no less a crook and charlatan than Trump. There's enough dodgy and questionable history in both their pasts to raise more than a few eyebrows. The US was between a rock and a hard place and you simply went with the more entertaining option.
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Glad to know I can also add you to the list of "obviously crazy people on TPU".
 
I keep seeing people saying we voted for Trump. We didn't. The Electoral College voted for Trump. The popular vote went to Hillary.
 
Well if the tariffs become an issue for USA business, I can bet they will be compensated via subsidies. The difference in these subsidies is they are to build the USA and not some dirty ass high level bankers and CEO's and in the end the USA is and always will be protected buy her buying power period and the USA indeed has the right to look out for her own interest even if the start of that hurts a little bit...but you don't have to believe me just watch and see it happen as we currently break all time records and no I will not provide links.
 
Slizzo said:
I keep seeing people saying we voted for Trump. We didn't. The Electoral College voted for Trump. The popular vote went to Hillary.
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Well yea, but golden showers I mean come on, there's no comparison! :p Gives me an idea for later tonight. Must prepare the girlfriend with Bordeaux. :roll:
 
Maybe China will get teed off enough to call in the trillions of dollars we've borrowed from them. Then will have to give them Alaska or something to that effect.
 
metalfiber said:
Maybe China will get teed off enough to call in the trillions of dollars we've borrowed from them. Then will have to give them Alaska or something to that effect.
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sadly it is just the opposite if China wants a chance at getting any back....this so called debt is a leverage tool as well to the USA's benefit.
 
I'm fine with this.
 
I wouldn't be surprised and would probably go as far to say that we would have gotten this tax increase regardless of how we voted. All politicians (especially career) have agendas to follow.

Just follow the money...
 
Vayra86 said:
China makes the absolute cheapest garbage we buy in Western countries, except there is a nice brand sticker on it so we can fool ourselves its not from the same factory. And anyone who really thinks the US is suddenly going to get big on manufacturing again when there are still cheaper options is either wishful thinking or simply stupid. And if they really do, it is no more than a new economic crisis in the making, as one day all those jobs will disappear once more. Its short term illusion versus long term damage. Why repeat history?

It's already been proven that we prefer it cheap over 'some misplaced idea of quality'. China can make it all and it does. Most of the time even from the very same factory and by the same hands. Besides its not like the US is all big on high quality, quite the opposite. Just look at cars for a good example. There is a good reason they barely get exported and it really isn't just because they're too big and wasteful.
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You're right about that, I was meaning on a more basic manufacturing level like components or materials. I don't agree with the tarrifs at all but it also doesn't hurt me that the focus is on China.

I should build that new computer soon either way before another mining craze takes over and pushes video card prices past what tarrifs would add ;)
 
Fx said:
I wouldn't be surprised and would probably go as far to say that we would have gotten this tax increase regardless of how we voted. All politicians (especially career) have agendas to follow.

Just follow the money...
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Yep, last true cut in spending was waaayyy back in 1920s due to Harding and Coolidge which resulted in one of the most prosperous times in our history if you are familiar with the term "roaring 20s". Ever since then each president has grown the U.S. debt, even Reagan. *sigh*
 
TheinsanegamerN said:
I'll take tariffs over a war with russia.
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The way things are going you could get both! Any sane person would just leave others alone and not artificially escalate the tension.

Anyway, in my opinion if the prices rise in the US some of it will reflect on EU as well and I don't see the benefit of these taxes in the long run.
 
Kinestron said:
Yep, last true cut in spending was waaayyy back in 1920s due to Harding and Coolidge which resulted in one of the most prosperous times in our history if you are familiar with the term "roaring 20s". Ever since then each president has grown the U.S. debt, even Reagan. *sigh*
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and in theory at least one day that debt will have to be accounted for.. :)

trog
 
Arpeegee said:
You're right about that, I was meaning on a more basic manufacturing level like components or materials. I don't agree with the tarrifs at all but it also doesn't hurt me that the focus is on China.

I should build that new computer soon either way before another mining craze takes over and pushes video card prices past what tarrifs would add ;)
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Materials such as.... high grade steel like the US can actually not even make right now and gets imported from Europe...? Honestly there isnt much of anything that has any sort of unique selling point right now. And starting that up again takes a lot of time, knowledge and specialized workforce. So the reality is that all they can "make" is cheap, high volume stuff that is simple snd straightforward. And guess what, everyone can do that locally.

repman244 said:
The way things are going you could get both! Any sane person would just leave others alone and not artificially escalate the tension.

Anyway, in my opinion if the prices rise in the US some of it will reflect on EU as well and I don't see the benefit of these taxes in the long run.
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War with Russia? That wont happen, they only stand to lose from military conflict and the balance of power is entirely against them. Their air force is worthless, they own one half operational Aircraft carrier and some submarines. The rest is near obsolete. Their new planes arent even a real threat.

Russias warfare is cyber, manipulation, and settling for new status quo like they tried in Georgia and Ukraine. And preferably away from too much attention. And the West just counters that with economic sanctions that constantly force Putin to action to keep his oligarch friends as allies. Meanwhile Russia is bleeding wealth for some insignificant patches of land and half successes on their covert ops.
 
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UrbanCamper said:
So.....what country is the i9 9900k finished at? Malaysia? Obviously you know why I am asking this.

I think I may have just answered my own question. Dalian, Liaoning, China. Or it could be Ireland hopefully.

Wait do we have electronic tariffs on Ireland?
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Buying a junky Dodge before a real supercar comes out for less, are ya? Good luck.
 
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