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Intel 9th Gen Core "F" iGPU-Devoid Processor Family Launched, Confirmed to Lack iGPU

A little perspective please. AMD is a tiny fraction of Intel's size and resources, and even so Intel did everything both legal and illegal to kill them off.

It's not as if AMD is asking for charity. They're (amazingly) offering many-core chips that best Intel's products in almost every way. Their investors took the risk of funding one last chance at a CPU comeback, and their engineers stepped up to do it. Soon, with 7nm, they may sweep the field.

Just stop and think where we'd be without AMD's guts and commitment. Think how Intel held us back. I'm setting up a 2010 netbook to give away, and its single-core Atom processor is *painfully* slow. I have to wonder what my $500 would have bought then if there had been competition. No Intel for me, for a loooong time.

That is great, but I am, unlike you, not telling you what to buy or giving you an opinion at all. I am just showing you what i run and why I run it.

I don't need a history lesson, I was running AMD back when a 2200+ was being compared to a Intel P4 3.0Ghz Prescott and even before then, it was the only time I jumped to AMD because for that time AMD had great priced CPUs for what little money I had in high school.

I am grateful for AMD and hope them the best. That doesn't mean I am going to buy them but I am glad people like you do, just wish you didn't have to spread so much hate. AMD is great because they make competition for Intel and they keep the prices stable if anything.

Intel is running a business, the spread more money on lawyers than AMD? surely. Legal is for the courts to decide and obviously for you to draw a conclusion/opinion over. I am sure you don't even know the half of it, nor do I, I still buy the products they sell though, oh well shame on me.

I just have no hate for either company, sorry just have no reason... no reason to burn flags just to make fire.
 
I just love this kinda competition. Workstations basically increased their price/performance value by around 60% compared to 4 years , I'd be glad to see this trend continuing.

Not to mention that older, still highly competitive used parts dropped their prices like a cement cube tossed into a lake.
 
I just love this kinda competition. Workstations basically increased their price/performance value by around 60% compared to 4 years , I'd be glad to see this trend continuing.

Not to mention that older, still highly competitive used parts dropped their prices like a cement cube tossed into a lake.

Exactly! the used PC parts market is a little crazy. mostly for those that buy high and sell the minute the next gen drops. and lately it has been a quick turn around. Gen 10 should be here before to long and these 9900Ks will be cheap but not "out of date" (perspective, I guess, because those people think an 8700K is out of date but to me it is still a great CPU)
 
Legal is for the courts to decide

I agree - you don't know the half of it. The courts *did* decide and you *do* need a history lesson:

https://www.theverge.com/2014/6/12/...billion-fine-upheld-anticompetitive-practices

and any of dozens more links on the same topic, which you must have missed. Intel has behaved scandalously and we're just lucky they weren't completely successful in crushing AMD. People like to forget all that when a new 0.1GHz is on offer. That's called rationalization.
 
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technical sloth
Or technical superpower, depends how you look at it.
Think how Intel held us back.
Or, "think how Intel has given us generation after generation of AWESOME shit." Again, depends how you look at it.

Of course Intel are dicks. But when AMD is on top, they pull the same shit--charging huge premiums for their high end chips, although not to the extent intel did. I'm an AMD fanboy--maybe not to the extent of some--but owning three FX platforms left a massively bitter taste in my mouth. FX was FUN AS HELL to play around with (mostly because you HAD to tinker), and upon their release they were somewhat decent competition, but it only took a year for Intel to obliterate any core-advantage that AMD had at the time. Original Athlon and Athlon 64 era was an entire different story; man those were the days.

I can't wait to see what AMD's 7nm brings to the table.
 
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