PSA: No Ryzen 3000 Pre-orders Today (1st July), Spare Your F5 Key

[btarunr]

AMD's 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processors were rumored to open to pre-orders today, so you could have your swanky new CPU upgrade in place by 7/7. It turns out, that's not the case. AMD in a statement to TechPowerUp, confirmed that there won't be any pre-orders opened by retailers today (1st July), and there is no information of any such pre-orders date. Customers will likely have to wait until the 7th to pick their PIB form their friendly neighbourhood PC hardware store, or order one online. The statement from AMD in German language translates as follows:

We haven't announced any pre-order plans - global launch is on 7/7.

AMD is launching five new processor SKUs this July, including the 12-core/24-thread Ryzen 9 3900X, the 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 3800X and 3700X, and the 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 3600X and 3600. Prices over previous-generation products remain flat wherever applicable. The 3700X is being launched at the same $329.99 MSRP as the 2700X, the 3600X at a slightly higher $249.99 compared to the $239.99 the 2600X launched at; and the 3600 aims to be the sub-$200 king at the same $199.99 price as the 2600. The 3800X is being launched as a premium 8-core option at $399.99, and the 3900X can be yours for $499.99. We expect most online retailers to mark these prices up by 5-10 percent as they normally do.



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[Deleted member 50521]

Nice. Wait for W1zzard’s review anyway!

 

[ZoneDymo]

Nice. Wait for W1zzard’s review anyway!

but but, what if mah 3900x is like sold out by then

 

[ironwolf]

My F5 key thanks your for this PSA!

 

[TheLostSwede]

Nice. Wait for W1zzard’s review anyway!

I thought he only reviews graphics cards and SSDs...

 

[Aerpoweron]

I am a little confused, the slide says the 3800X is 95W but the AMD website says it's 105W?

Even if you could preorder, how can you have the CPU shipped to you, or buy it at Sundays?

 

[Th3pwn3r]

I am a little confused, the slide says the 3800X is 95W but the AMD website says it's 105W?

Even if you could preorder, how can you have the CPU shipped to you, or buy it at Sundays?

Amazon does same day Sunday shipping, I did an order yesterday and received it .

So actual day I can purchase and install this is the 7th? I may be picking up a setup for another rig in my house.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I am a little confused, the slide says the 3800X is 95W but the AMD website says it's 105W?

Even if you could preorder, how can you have the CPU shipped to you, or buy it at Sundays?

Not every country has Sunday as the day off or as a religious day, so you have to simply move to one of those...
If you're in Norway or Germany, you're royally screwed though.

 

[Aerpoweron]

Damn, Bavaria is too conservative

So i have to wait till monday to pick up one CPU.

 

[Tomorrow]

Good. Don't ever preorder anything.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nice. Wait for W1zzard’s review anyway!

Is W1z the one doing it? I thought it might be @crazyeyesreaper or @btarunr. Interesting.

 

[Rahnak]

The top 2 shops where I live already have their listings up. Prices seem to be a little higher than 2000 series. You get 3 months of Xbox game pass though.

3600 - 218,90€
3600X - 273,90€
3700X - 361,90€
3800X - 438,90€
3900X - 548,90€

EDIT: Prices @ 23% VAT

 

[TheLostSwede]

The top 2 shops where I live already have their listings up. Prices seem to be a little higher than 2000 series. You get 3 months of Xbox game pass though.

3600 - 218,90€
3600X - 273,90€
3700X - 361,90€
3800X - 438,90€
3900X - 548,90€

Seems a tad steep, even with VAT added. But as noted in the article, for now, it's likely that the retailers are adding a bit of extra profit on top, which is unfortunate. MSRP is no longer the highest or at least average price you should expect to find things retailing at, it's apparently the lowest...

 

[Deleted member 50521]

Is W1z the one doing it? I thought it might be @crazyeyesreaper or @btarunr. Interesting.

TechPowerUp

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Look through, it has been @W1zzard all this time.

 

[Metroid]

Funny, when amd wants to scam people, amd creates an umbelievable hype then amd let people pre-order a month earlier then people get the product before reviews and that is how the scam was done. Now amd is doing the opposite hehe, no pre-orders before reviews eheh

 

[shmuck]

Seems a tad steep, even with VAT added. But as noted in the article, for now, it's likely that the retailers are adding a bit of extra profit on top, which is unfortunate. MSRP is no longer the highest or at least average price you should expect to find things retailing at, it's apparently the lowest...

How so? 3700X with a 20% VAT on top of $329 translates to around 350 euros. 10 euros on top of that is not too bad in my opinion.

 

[Vayra86]

Funny, when amd wants to scam people, amd creates an umbelievable hype then amd let people pre-order a month earlier then people get the product before reviews and that is how the scam was done. Now amd is doing the opposite hehe, no pre-orders before reviews eheh

Spot on. Any company yelling pre-order nao! The more you buy the more you save! Etc. should be readily avoided until the product launches and performance numbers are out.

Goes for games, too.

 

[TheLostSwede]

How so? 3700X with a 20% VAT on top of $329 translates to around 350 euros. 10 euros on top of that is not too bad in my opinion.

As I said, MSRP used to be sort of the highest or at least the average price you'd expect to pay for computer components, now it's seemingly the lowest.
Retailers and etailers seems to price everything higher than MSRP. So what's the point of an MSRP if you can't buy products at the MSRP?
I know S stands for Suggested, but is there really that little margin in hardware these days? I know the cost of a lot of these things and I don't see the margin being that small.
Maybe everyone just keeps wanting a bigger slice of the cake?

 

[shmuck]

Maybe everyone just keeps wanting a bigger slice of the cake?

Too many middlemen. Time to start ordering directly from AMD and picking it up at the factory, hot off the press .

Spot on. Any company yelling pre-order nao! The more you buy the more you save! Etc. should be readily avoided until the product launches and performance numbers are out.

Goes for games, too.

I know where you're all coming from but when you can get a full refund on hardware (14 day period for online bought goods in the EU) as well as games (Steam), it's no big deal, really.

That said, unless there are preorder bonuses or you want to support the developers, why bother preordering.

 

[Solaris17]

I wouldn’t have minded a pre order. But I am gifting an entire system to a friend of mine that lost his entire rig. He is a great guy, he was also coming from super antiquated hard ware so really pre order would have been no big deal given the performance gain (phenom gen 1).

In these situations where the jump will be massive even if projected numbers are off is when I’m ok with it personally.

 

[Shatun_Bear]

Not every country has Sunday as the day off or as a religious day, so you have to simply move to one of those...
If you're in Norway or Germany, you're royally screwed though.

Jim, where is this 5Ghz Ryzen 3000 CPU, I'd like to pre-order one of those?

 

[Dave65]

Yep, waiting on some reviews first.

 

[Rahnak]

@TheLostSwede @shmuck Forgot to mention those prices have a 23% VAT on them. So probably lower elsewhere in Europe.

 

[Wavetrex]

AMD just released video that Ryzen 3000 can auto-overclock to the limits of the motherboard it's matched to.

"Precision Boost Overdrive with Auto-Overclock"

Wow. This generation will demolish everything in it's path !

 

[Vayra86]

Too many middlemen. Time to start ordering directly from AMD and picking it up at the factory, hot off the press .


I know where you're all coming from but when you can get a full refund on hardware (14 day period for online bought goods in the EU) as well as games (Steam), it's no big deal, really.

That said, unless there are preorder bonuses or you want to support the developers, why bother preordering.

- Pre order creates laziness and a lack of drive to push a product to market when it is actually finished. After all, you've got the sale already. In the case of hardware, a pre order is fuel for presenting half truths and questionable 'leaks' that show performance far above what is in the product. You'd be surprised how deep that rabbit hole goes.
- Supporting developers does not happen through a pre-order. Funding for a project is always secured (even with kickstarters!) long before a project is finished. The only thing that crowdfunding goals could add along the way is extra stuff - in which case a clear stretch goal shows you what you're paying premium for. Not very much unlike the currently popular seasonal content and passes. Apparently people like roadmaps and waiting for content? It suits the pre-order 'impatience' - there is a weird urge to close the sale and 'claim your spot'. Its a phenomenon called 'fear of missing out'. Psychological abuse at its finest
- Pre order is your money out of the bank and into another, you're not capable of using that money, while nothing has been returned for it yet. Strange way to make deals - even if you can cancel it at any time. Its not a physical item and pre order bonuses are never anything tangible and if they are, perhaps a boycot on the dev is more appropriate because that reeks of pay to win.
- Pre order is a guarantee for paying full MSRP, while most products, even the most wanted ones, get post-launch discount rather quickly, or at least get competed over normally.

If all that is worth a free sticker or a cool hat in a game to you... by all means...