AMD Patent Shines Raytraced Light on Post-Navi Plans

[Vayra86]

That's too much. I was looking for the link. This is probably the best one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/baaqb0

Well. I stand corrected then, was 5-7% over that

There's also no 'magical' ray-tracing hardware or software improvements.

Ironically there is, we call it rasterization Pre cooked RT sans the real time part

 

[londiste]

I didn't miss it. I simply disagree with you having one benchmark from a game conclude about the value and performance of a graphics card.

Final Fantasy XV Benchmark results at 1440p had RTX 2070 Super at 11% faster than RTX 2070. TPU's RTX 2070 Super review puts it at 13% faster. I would say the estimation was not too far off. Price point is the same, we knew that before.

AMD's slide shows RX 5700XT being 5.8% faster on average than RTX 2070.

Edit:
Actually, we can do better than that. This is the RX5700XT vs RTX 2070 slide:

Spoiler

The following games and relative performance numbers are on the slide:

• AC: Odyssey: +2%
• Battlefield 5: +22%
• Call of Duty: Black Ops 4: +6%
• Far Cry: New Dawn: +5%
• Metro Exodus: +15%
• Shadow of the Tomb Raider: -3%
• Civilization 6: -1%
• The Division 2: +3%
• Witcher 3: +5%
• Ghost Recon Wildlands: +4%

TPU RTX 2070 Super review has 6 of these games with results for RTX 2070 and RTX 2070 Super:

	RTX 2070	RTX 2070 Super	RX 5700 XT (calculated based on slide)	Calculated RX 5700 XT VS RTX 2070	Calculated RX 5700 XT VS RTX2070 Super
AC: Odyssey	51.7	57.9	52.7	2%	-9%
Battlefield 5	98.1	109.8	119.7	22%	9%
Metro Exodus	75.8	86.4	87.2	15%	1%
Shadow of Tomb Raider	83.0	94.1	80.5	-3%	-14%
Civilization 6	113.4	129.4	112.3	-1%	-13%
Witcher 3	86.0	100.2	90.3	5%	-10%

Out of these 6 games, that would be -6% difference. RX 5700 XT is priced at 449$ vs RTX2070 Super's $499 - 10% cheaper.
RX 5700XT should be slightly better perf/$.

 

[lexluthermiester]

If I were an AMD fan I would skip the Radeon RX 5XXX generation altogether

This would indeed be foolish. Radeon 7 is inbtween 2070 and 2080 generally performance wise and the Radeon 5700XT improves upon that. The 5800(XT?) and 5900(XT?) are going to firmly leverage the 2080 to 2080ti performance range and do for less money...

since AMD is again dedicating most of its resources to next-gen MS/Sony consoles with HW accelerated Ray Tracing while gamers will receive half-baked products which will be rendered obsolete less than a year from now.

This is also foolish. Anyone who waits for the next big thing because what is available will be obsolete will ALWAYS be in a state of waiting because advances are always being made.

My advice is and always has been, buy what you can afford when you need/want it. Don't worry about the future because the future is always coming. Plan for the future, sure, but don't hold your breath waiting for it.

 

[EarthDog]

It's A LOT closer to the 2070 than it is to a 2080... 1% difference at 1080p (where most people play) and 6% at 2560x1440. At the latter res, its still 14% away from a 2080.

I also thought the leaks put it close to 2070 as well?

Radeon RX 5700XT Time Spy Leak Matches GeForce RTX 2070

Early leaks for what appears to be the upcoming AMD Radeon RX 5700XT and how it performs compared to the GeForce RTX 2070.

wccftech.com

 

[snakefist]

Ironically there is, we call it rasterization Pre cooked RT sans the real time part

Define 'we'. Rasterization is basically opposite of ray-tracing. Rasterization is done to shorten and simplify rendering 3d scene, exactly by *not* following light trace to its destination. Shaders can do both, but ray-tracing is a rather different from the calculation point of view, resulting in slowness.

 

[Juankato1987]

I think performance is more like RX570 than RX470. And GTX 1060 is $199/249, and RX 470 is $169? Plus what "huge" difference are you talking about?

https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-rx-570-pulse/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

And yeah, AMD has a CPU to offer too which would for sure means even cheaper prices.

Performance is actually a bit lower than RX 470, but with a 8GB of VRAM helps to get better numbers.
And I never said anything about RX 570, and a 27% can be held as a huge gap.
I'm talking about brute performance here, not counting with PS4 optimizations.

We Built a PC Using PS4 Pro Specs. How Does it Perform?

An in-depth walkthrough of how we built and benchmarked a PS4 Pro-inspired PC.

www.gamespot.com