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| System Name | Tiny the White Yeti |
|---|---|
| Processor | 7800X3D |
| Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
| Cooling | CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3 |
| Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
| Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
| Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
| Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
| Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
| Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
| Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
| Mouse | Steelseries Aerox 5 |
| Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
| VR HMD | HD 420 - Green Edition ;) |
| Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
| Benchmark Scores | Over 9000 |
Just a few words from my experience with SL since 2015. I’ve owned four binned processors from Siliconlottery.com
Does that mean I believe everyone who owns a computer should purchase a high-binned CPU from SL.
Of course NOT! That would be ridiculous, not to mention silly.
If on the other hand 1) the enthusiast inside of you enjoys overclocking and benching and/or 2) if your business-work-income-livelihood-ability to care for your family, and the ROI-return on investment make it financially worthwhile, factoring in time saved and comfort while working long hours at a stretch, and the quality of work overall as a positive addition. Well, that’s the reasons I would purchase from SL.
I have one work application titled Final Draft 10. When you load it, it idles like any other application, with Intel SpeedStep enabled in bios, the CPU clocks down to about 0.8Ghz or 800Mhz, nothing out of the ordinary. Yet when I begin typing in the application the CPU clocks up to 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5, 5.6Ghz whatever is set as the highest single-core or all-core clock speed in bios. Remove your fingertips from the keycaps and low and behold, the CPU drops back down to 800Mhz idle – the workload in Windows 10 task manager all logical processors displayed shows a single-thread at high load while typing, along with 4-5 other threads very slightly loaded - a classic single and slightly threaded application which benefits more from CPU and memory clock speeds (single-core performance vs multicore performance) than a higher number of processor cores.
So, I opted for single-threaded performance for my work rig when choosing a platform CPU-memory-motherboard. Owned the HEDT once briefly a Rampage V Edition 10/6800K X99 chipset and even using an Optane 900P SSD, the sluggishness was vastly apparent vs using an 8700K/Apex X or 8086K/Z390 Dark platform. Also, the 6800K used the quicker Intel ring bus for core to core intercommunication, now Skylake X CPUs use the higher latency Intel mesh bus - even slower, higher latency than the previous Broadwell CPUs.
Some DDR4 Memory Binning as a sidebar:
Recently picked up a Gskill Royal Silver 4600Mhz 18CL dual ddr4 kit. The highest kit on the Z390 Dark motherboard’s QVL and running it at 4400Mhz 17-17-17-34 which feels much zippier and more responsive than the 4600/18 XMP “set and forget” setting in bios.
Even the memory latency test in AIDA 64 Extreme picks up the lower overall system latency, not to be confused with the latency CL value listed on the memory modules themselves.
-at XMP - 4600Mhz CL 18-22-22-42, my AIDA 64 latency bench value is around 41 nanoseconds
-at 4400Mhz CL 17-17-17-34, my AIDA 64 latency bench value is around 37 nanoseconds (screenshots below)
…Anyone with a Z390 Dark and considering a new memory kit PM me and I’ll tell you I began by using the LUUMI Daily OC Preset within the bios as a template and went from there. It’s set up for 9900Ks yet easily adapted to 8700Ks/8086Ks.
Back to the story:
Intel first binned the 8700Ks from the silicon wafers cut mounted and tested. Then Intel binned a second time to pull out the top tier increased the factory single-core base and boost clock and created the 8086Ks. Then SL binned a third time to sort out the highest tier they can test stable using the ROG Hero motherboards. Of course, you can reach higher stable (and not so stable) speeds using any motherboard with an improved VRM section than the Hero boards SL uses as their standardized testing method, be it from Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, ASROCK, or EVGA.
From a personal POV, when I’m really cranking out my thoughts to words at a rapid rate onto electronic paper, well frustration can build if I have to wait for a slow pc to respond, I want the computer to absolutely disappear when I work, and not hinder me in any way. I can lose a train of thought very quickly (I’m like that) and NEVER again find it … what was I saying? Creative work lost, I’ll never be able to generate again or deliver to the public. I’ve used noisy and slow pre-built Dells and building your own machine, mine took two years to get to this point, to me it’s so worth the additional effort.
“Sometimes I only lose the caboose in my train of thought” Oh that’s beyond corny and deserves an apology.
Why do people comment negatively on products or services they have no interest in or cannot gain any benefit from? No product or service is meant to be a perfect match for everyone.
Anywho, here’s some cool photos (below) anyone using the Gskill Silver Royal ddr4 I hope will enjoy, the static blue RGB color is the best aesthetic match for my very “unaesthetic-somewhat ugly” work computer. Lol
But it’s fast, ahh the trade-offs we make in life.
And some benchmark screenshots for anyone who believes Siliconlottery.com is a scam. SL is a real live positive service provider. Binning is a real service for some of us, the CPUs are fun, enjoyable to play with and the time saved using a super-responsive PC for completing work pays for itself. For some of us.
Sorry for the extreme number of screenshots. Only trying to show the wide range of clocks/volts available with a high-binned CPU. You don’t have to run it at the very edge of stability to enjoy the processor, but still it’s fun just to find out how far it will go “only briefly” with a little tweaking. And then I move back into more practical saved profiles in bios and get back to work.
Also, sorry I don’t have much/any to say about AMD’s Matisse launch per this thread, although it does seem AMD’s single-thread performance at 4.4Ghz-4.5Ghz is now equivalent to Intel’s single-thread at 5.0Ghz – So Go AMD!
This is only my opinion from personal experience, and nothing more than that.
Reply what you want, I won’t be returning or reading the hatred.
That is an impressive OC, well played sir.
It's like apple phones: some people just like to pay more 'because', and its their right. Agreed you have to wonder sometimes what goes through a persons head to throw money so ineffectively after someting, but its up to them. They are the whales of capitalism and let them flow; then we sharks can do your own thing. Theres space enough in the ocean for both.
