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Grab a bundle from new egg.

633$ at new egg.
Comes with these items. Case PSU board Memory SSD and even a processor. You'd then shop later for a better GPU. GTX 980 is around 150 bucks right now, but still has some back bone to it for even new(er) games.
AMD RYZEN 5 2600X 6-Core 3.6 GHz Processor, ASUS ROG Strix X470-F Gaming AM4 AMD X470 Motherboard, CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3000 Memory, SAMSUNG 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Phanteks Eclipse P400 Case, CORSAIR CX650 650W PSU


Went this route on the last 2 builds I've helped people with.
 
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Another option:
Ryzen 5 1600 - $79.95 US
Colorful B450 MotherBoard AM4 DDR4 VGA DVI HDMI - $87.99
KEFU DDR4-3200 8GB RAM chips are from SEC (Samsung) HY (Hynix) MIC (Micron) - $35.84 US (Could buy two sticks for dual channel which you want to enable)
GIGABYTE RX 570 4GB Gaming - $111.33 US
Total=350.95 excluding shipping charge
 
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You definitely need an upgrade. A full upgrade. It all depends how much money you have and where are you from. Hardware prices in the USA will be obviously a lot cheaper than in the EU.

There are a lot options, so I would suggest this combo:

* AMD Ryzen 3 1200 or Ryzen 3 2200G, box (with cooler)
* Cheapest B350M Motherboard (with preinstalled latest BIOS) or B450M (better option) - MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, Asrock, Biostar
* Single stick of 8 GB DDR4 2400 or 2666 RAM - G.Skill, ADATA, Team, Kingston HyperX
* used GPU like Radeon R9 380 4 GB, R9 380X 4 GB, RX 470 4 GB from Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, XFX etc.- whichever you find cheaper
* Coolermaster MVE 550W or FSP Hydro 600W PSU (they are very good PSU's and aren't that expensive, both 80 Plus Bronze)
* new or used 21.5" IPS monitor with HDMI slot - Philips, AOC, Acer, Asus, Lenovo, LG, Benq
* new PC case - FSP CMT110A, Deepcool Tesseract SW, Zalman S2, Zalman S3...

If you are in the EU, expect anywhere from 300-350 € for these components. If you need SSD (cheapest 2.5" 240 GB) and HDD (Toshiba P300 1TB) add extra 70 €.

This system will push every new hardware-demanding game at 1080p resolution at medium details without any problems.
 

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I can understand theres low version graphic card as from what i hear some arent great for performance. As im on asus p5q deluxe ddr2 motherboard that is even more older than any of you currently running now but it does what i need

Lets see you find another GPU that is more powerful, doesnt require a PCi-Ex power cable for additional power and fits in a small form factor PC that performs better than an older GTX960. Only then can we talk about how terrible the performance of something is that isnt supposed to be on the top 10 list of gaming GPUs.

:EDIT:

Oh and it must fit into the 'budget gaming' price range. so no cheating and trying to shove sli 2080Ti's in
 
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Lets see you find another GPU that is more powerful, doesnt require a PCi-Ex power cable for additional power and fits in a small form factor PC that performs better than an older GTX960. Only then can we talk about how terrible the performance of something is that isnt supposed to be on the top 10 list of gaming GPUs.

:EDIT:

Oh and it must fit into the 'budget gaming' price range. so no cheating and trying to shove sli 2080Ti's in
As im running with asus gtx 1050 ti oc expedition as it the one of the esport version which has the boost of 1455mhz also it dont have the pcie power slot only paid €100 for it lol

only one for low profile gpu is this https://www.ebay.ie/itm/MSI-Low-Pro...725771?hash=item28837d680b:g:XHsAAOSwPRldXXQS
theres nothing faster after this model

judging for the low profile list is gigabyte is abit quicker but has 2gb
 
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You definitely need an upgrade. A full upgrade. It all depends how much money you have and where are you from. Hardware prices in the USA will be obviously a lot cheaper than in the EU.

There are a lot options, so I would suggest this combo:

* AMD Ryzen 3 1200 or Ryzen 3 2200G, box (with cooler)
* Cheapest B350M Motherboard (with preinstalled latest BIOS) or B450M (better option) - MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, Asrock, Biostar
* Single stick of 8 GB DDR4 2400 or 2666 RAM - G.Skill, ADATA, Team, Kingston HyperX
* used GPU like Radeon R9 380 4 GB, R9 380X 4 GB, RX 470 4 GB from Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, XFX etc.- whichever you find cheaper
* Coolermaster MVE 550W or FSP Hydro 600W PSU (they are very good PSU's and aren't that expensive, both 80 Plus Bronze)
* new or used 21.5" IPS monitor with HDMI slot - Philips, AOC, Acer, Asus, Lenovo, LG, Benq
* new PC case - FSP CMT110A, Deepcool Tesseract SW, Zalman S2, Zalman S3...

If you are in the EU, expect anywhere from 300-350 € for these components. If you need SSD (cheapest 2.5" 240 GB) and HDD (Toshiba P300 1TB) add extra 70 €.

This system will push every new hardware-demanding game at 1080p resolution at medium details without any problems.

I have a lidless Ryzen 1200. It's pretty good about 40-50% faster than the OP's Intel G3258 and would make for a decent upgrade now. Then on the B450 Mobo option could upgrade later to Ryzen 3000 series chips and would hold him off for quite a long time.
Like your suggestions better than mine!! lol.
 
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LOL THE PSU makes the monitor go blank oh thank you for the education!!!!! YOU HAVE 500+ plus no clue postings!!! Oh he needs A RYZEN SO BAD doesnt he!

Seriously? Did you even read his post? Did you even read my response? Have you even read all the other members comments? Is the ryzen comment because you are a fanboy and once you loose an argument just go to throwing a fit and insults? I mean, does intel offer a cheap apu solution that can play everything he listed he likes to play, no they dont. if they did than that is what would have been suggested. You suggested he dump 190 dollars in a proc alone without even considering the rest of the system. He still then has the problem with the gpu being to out of date to play the games he wants and we dont even no if its broken or something else is wrong with the system. a sudden black screen and then having to hard reset the pc are most commonly a resault from bad drivers, gpu or psu. its not limited to these 3 but they are the most common cause for what he is describing. you really should go take acouple classes at the local community college on this stuff. also do some price searching before making a suggestion.

Sorry, but you threw the stone first. if you cant take the heat then leave. you clearly have no idea how to diagnose a pc or missed your meds. i suggest you dont let the door hit you on the way out.
 
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Just find a GTX 1060, 1050 Ti for cheap and call it a day.
 

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Sounds like a faulty GPU to me as well. 1050ti (or faster/AMD equivalent) will make it feel like an all new PC, and a CPU upgrade for that motherboard sounds like a great idea too
 
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the point here is that not many people cant afford to spend money on the pc when it having a issue only way is fix it to narrow down what is the cause but please dont force somebody to upgrade something then again i could point out it could be a nvidia driver problem where it crashing sometimes causing the monitor to go to sleep i had to fix the regedit for the graphic card in my system to stop it from doing the error 4101. As it could be as simple as that is my guess
my monitor only goes to sleep by itself when i play games and screen recording... oh yeah, usually when i restart my pc after it crashes.. it would show some kind of error with my gpu ( "nvidia driver crashed/stopped working")...but that doesn't happen now. the error message don't show up so i don't know what to do
 
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yep i know the feeling i had the same problem before nonstop it turned out it was the simple fix is to add three registry fixes that solved all my problems i can give you the guide if you want

my monitor only goes to sleep by itself when i play games and screen recording... oh yeah, usually when i restart my pc after it crashes.. it would show some kind of error with my gpu ( "nvidia driver crashed/stopped working")...but that doesn't happen now. the error message don't show up so i don't know what to do
i just privare message ya

Simply go to your registry: Start --> Run --> Type in "Regedit"

Go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers" and create a key of type "DWORD (32-bit)" and name "TdrDelay" with a value of 60 as Decimal value.

create a key of type "DWORD (32-bit)" and name "TdrDdiDelay" with a value of 60 as Decimal value.

create a key of type "DWORD (32-bit)" and name "TdrLevel" with a value of 0 as Decimal value.

Then exit regedit and reboot

This fixed my problem since the day i found the fix it been working ever since
 
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I'll list down my specs below... oh i almost forgot, my pc was just given to me as a gift soo i don't know much about the hardwares.
If you're thinking about upgrading this computer (or just replacing the video card), then we need more information to help you out.

Is this a retail machine (Acer, Dell, HP, etc)? If so, please post the brand and model number. If you can't find the model number, keep reading.

If this is a "home-built" machine, then we need more details about the system's components (this info wouldn't hurt for a retail machine, either). Give this a try:
  1. Download the portable version of Speccy.
  2. Save the ZIP file to your drive.
  3. Unpack the ZIP file (it's most likely to be in your Downloads folder).
  4. If you use 32-bit Windows, run "Speccy". If you use 64-bit Windows, run "Speccy64".
  5. Do a screen capture of the Summary screen (the first one displayed) and post it here.
  6. If you can open the computer, then take a picture of the power supply's label (or write down the brand and model number) and post it here.
I'm asking for this information because it might be possible to upgrade pieces of the computer instead of replacing the whole thing, saving you some money. The size of the computer case will limit the video cards that will fit in it. And the power supply's wattage may not be high enough to support some video cards. Without more information, we can't help you to make informed decisions.
 
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If you're thinking about upgrading this computer (or just replacing the video card), then we need more information to help you out.

Is this a retail machine (Acer, Dell, HP, etc)? If so, please post the brand and model number. If you can't find the model number, keep reading.

If this is a "home-built" machine, then we need more details about the system's components (this info wouldn't hurt for a retail machine, either). Give this a try:
  1. Download the portable version of Speccy.
  2. Save the ZIP file to your drive.
  3. Unpack the ZIP file (it's most likely to be in your Downloads folder).
  4. If you use 32-bit Windows, run "Speccy". If you use 64-bit Windows, run "Speccy64".
  5. Do a screen capture of the Summary screen (the first one displayed) and post it here.
  6. If you can open the computer, then take a picture of the power supply's label (or write down the brand and model number) and post it here.
I'm asking for this information because it might be possible to upgrade pieces of the computer instead of replacing the whole thing, saving you some money. The size of the computer case will limit the video cards that will fit in it. And the power supply's wattage may not be high enough to support some video cards. Without more information, we can't help you to make informed decisions.
That why we are here to help out the fellow computer buddies
 
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You could try this... Oh. Wait.... um...
 
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I dont know if anybody already suggested. But. I recommend removing the gpu and plug your monitor in the onboard VGA OR HDMI connection. Then if it is working, then you know its the gpu. If no money for buying a new computer, get some used 750ti or 950ti or whichever you can buy. make sure not the one that requires power connections.

correct me if I am wrong but the G3258 is overclockable. Dual core 4 threads? that is still ok for old games.

But then again, dont expect that it will last you a year or two.

Thats my honest opinion if budget is huge concern
 
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Well it depends on the board if it have any of the hdmi/vga port available as he said he got the computer as a gift as it may not have the overclock features in the bios is my guess but im be more than helpful to help ehhhe as i may have an idea as he mentioned he was getting nvidia driver crashed and recovered pop up which pointed toward either nvidia driver or graphic card
 
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Well it depends on the board if it have any of the hdmi/vga port available as he said he got the computer as a gift as it may not have the overclock features in the bios is my guess but im be more than helpful to help ehhhe as i may have an idea as he mentioned he was getting nvidia driver crashed and recovered pop up which pointed toward either nvidia driver or graphic card

Yep. Hot card will drop the driver. Is the rig/card clean?
 
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I dont think they get that hot to drop driver as it not a frying pan lol
 

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'nvidia driver crashed and recovered ' is rarely caused by actual driver bugs (last i recall was 8800GTX at launch, that was shite) and usually caused by an unstable system (memory OC is a common cause) or most commonly, by a dying GPU
 
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'nvidia driver crashed and recovered ' is rarely caused by actual driver bugs (last i recall was 8800GTX at launch, that was shite) and usually caused by an unstable system (memory OC is a common cause) or most commonly, by a dying GPU
Doubt it's a GPU dying unless it's in a hostile environment. I have GPUs that are AGP and still work and where used daily at some point by someone.
Most GPUs that die are from OC abuse.
He could just need to update the driver for all we know. No idea the condition of any this hardware.
 
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Most common factor is overclocking, poor airflow and abuse i rarely ever seen the gt730 die at all
 
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Well something is making the driver crash out.
Could even be a shitty cable or connection between card and monitor. I've seen that more than dead video cards.
 

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Guys, i'm a tech hoarder. I have boxes upon boxes of CPUs, GPUs and assorted hardware around. One of my friends worked at a recovery yard for recycling and he'd bring all the PC hardware to me for testing and repairs.

Just because you yourself have never seen hardware fail doesn't mean it can't happen - even if its one in a million, someone, somewhere has that millionth GPU that died.

Ever seen a PC crash with a BSOD because the compressor in a bar fridge caused a power surge that crashed an xbox controller that crashed the driver that crashed windows? I have. That one was hilarious once we figured it out, the controlled worked in other houses just fine, but in that house with that fridge it'd BSOD any PC it was connected to.
 
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Wow. Who put into your head that I've never seen hardware fail?
I didn't say the card Did not fail, I said I doubt that it failed (dying), nothing more.
I've killed many of hardware Mr. Definitely not new to the game. I delid my soldered processors. I've killed 2 maybe 3 from that. That's more times than I've baked Chips from overclocking LN2 and 2 volts and up.

Again, could be as simple as the cable is shot. Would do some testing before jumping the gun on a supposed dying gpu. lol
 
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