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AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT and Ryzen 9 3900XT to Lack In-box Coolers

27% even, where I live.:banghead:

As for the no box cooler thing, pretty sure the ppl who are in the market for such CPUs would use a proper aftermarket cooler anyway.
My 1600x had no cooler either but that didn't bother me as I was planning on buying an aftermarket cooler in the first place. 'regardless of my choice of CPU'

Which country is it?
:laugh:
 
Which country is it?
:laugh:

That 'lovely' place, hungary.

For example the 120$ msrp 3300x is ~157$ here if brand new. 'mix that with the lower than average wages and its even better':shadedshu:
 
Stock cooling for an overclocking-specific variant never made any sense. You want the cooler, buy the near-identical model that doesn't have an XT or K in the name.
 
7.25% tax here in New Mexico. I could not imagine paying over 20%. That's crazy. Do you have income taxes and property taxes as well or is it all just a VAT?
 
And you wont be having lots of OC headroom at all, if it's up to AMD.

The XFR/PBO is such a great tech that it pretty much maxes out the silicon. Forget about old days OC'ing, or all core overclocks. PBO just deliveres it straight out of the box within safe parameters, exactly doing as it was intended to.

Really i favor XFR/PBO more now; it simply boosts when it needs to. Barely any difference now in between all core vs boost.

Ryzen XT's = Stopgap Confirmed, Not even a little bit of tweaking, just boosting clocks and voltage a little bit.
 
AMD is milking 'em professional Cinebenchers.
Who do not realize how terribly low their Counter Strike 720p framerates will be, if they equip PC with dual 2080Ti and then compare the values to 300W Intel CPU.
 
Ryzen XT's = Stopgap Confirmed, Not even a little bit of tweaking, just boosting clocks and voltage a little bit.

+ old retail pricing, even worse if you planned to use the stock cooler as you would have to buy a cooler as well.

So glad i did not wait HA!.
 
7.25% tax here in New Mexico. I could not imagine paying over 20%. That's crazy. Do you have income taxes and property taxes as well or is it all just a VAT?
BDP is higher, but yes, taxes on income, property, cars,...
 
+ old retail pricing, even worse if you planned to use the stock cooler as you would have to buy a cooler as well.

So glad i did not wait HA!.

yeah, makes no sense, any logical buyer would just grab a NON XT part (wich is cheaper) and Overclock it to match the XT's correspondent part clock. AMD really making no sense here, i'll wait for the reviews but i don't think this makes any sense right now.
 
yeah, makes no sense, any logical buyer would just grab a NON XT part (wich is cheaper) and Overclock it to match the XT's correspondent part clock. AMD really making no sense here, i'll wait for the reviews but i don't think this makes any sense right now.
That makes no sense, it's like saying you would buy a 2600 now and overclock it to match a 3600. You are missing the point.
 
That makes no sense, it's like saying you would buy a 2600 now and overclock it to match a 3600. You are missing the point.

not the same thing dude. the 2600 was ZEN+ (12NM) with some improvments to the 1600, but not a lot. the 3600 its a whole new architecture and design that makes a huge difference.
this is like the 9900K vs 9900KS, its the same chip with better Binning, higher clocks and voltage. the difference is that AMD is not charging more money for it, it will be the same price as the old SKUS (like NVIDIA did with the "SUPER" Cards), the point is the older non-XT SKUs will still be available and cheaper at a lot of retailers and its not worth for anyone who already has a non-XT SKU to sell it and grab a XT version.
 
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