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Alleged AMD Radeon "Big Navi" Prototype Pictured

I usually find Paul's videos not overly interesting, but this one is reeeally interesting, I'm sure some of you will find it useful.

 
Undisturbed dust is there to show us how the fan isn't blowing that much at all
 
Or it blown away all blowable dust and only the undisturbable remains.
 
Makaveli said:
I think you are right you need memory bandwidth to feed a beast.

While I want Big Navi to equal 3080 performance I think its will come in +15% faster than the 3070 and with 16GB's of ram. And that is why rumored launch price of $599 was lowered to $549 when they saw the performance of the 3080.

If it comes out and beat expectations I'll be happy either way as I'm due for a gpu upgrade, after building this rig in dec 2019 and carrying over my current gpu.
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Actually, it seems I might have been wrong, the last video, and some other tidbits from Moore's Law is Dead are implying that AMD has found a different way to cope with the need for more bandwidth, which is based on using a gigantic 128MB cache. Sounds exciting, can't wait to learn more.
 
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I hope this makes sense. A lot actually.
While Microsoft releasing their new X box based on Navi 2 with real time directx features including ray tracing on hardware level. And Sony is upto the same level of hardware from Amd.

On the other hand most of the titles from microsoft has been made available to pc. Obviously Sony did not hesitate to do so (finally) and there was a news lately that sony has announced to release their titles to pc.

There we go same level of hardware on both platforms (same directx features)
This provides the same venture on game titles with better performance as in theory we talk about best of both worlds.

Contrary to the situation Amd did not respond to Nvidia’s beta series ray tracing cards with hefty price tags and is still reluctant to do so after Nvidia is coming out with jawbreaking price drop on all new 3000 series cards ?

The answer was simple that Amd was working from a while on this to happen and they did not want to spoil the show.

I think everyone should wait for what Amd has to offer this time.

They kept cooking and they want to serve better and best in both worlds.
 
BoboOOZ said:
Actually, it seems I might have been wrong, the last video, and some other tidbits from Moore's Law is Dead are implying that AMD has found a different way to cope with the need for more bandwidth, which is based on using a gigantic 128MB cache. Sounds exciting, can't wait to learn more.
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either way we will find out shortly.
 
Vayra86 said:
Yep...

So... this might even end up no higher than 3070. That's worse than expected. Also, once again you gotta wonder... how the f does this pic exist. Its like my three year old dust bin built up out of second-hand parts from 8 years old. Or is this AMD doing testing in 'real world scenario's' right here? o_O Marketing machine firing on all cilinders clearly
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Nah, only worse than those who haven't been paying attention for the last 6 years (or even more - RTG's current downfall started with Cayman back in late 2010) expected ... or AMDtards of course (for the record - I know you're neither of those). I've been saying for a about a year now that the best what Biiiiiig Navi can manage, is roughly match a 2080 super and that's looking more and more like bang on. The problem of course is that it won't even be enough to parry the 3070, leaving them to probably battle the rumored 3060Ti at best, lol :p

Aqeel Shahzad said:
Contrary to the situation Amd did not respond to Nvidia’s beta series ray tracing cards with hefty price tags and is still reluctant to do so after Nvidia is coming out with jawbreaking price drop on all new 3000 series cards ?

The answer was simple that Amd was working from a while on this to happen and they did not want to spoil the show.

I think everyone should wait for what Amd has to offer this time.

They kept cooking and they want to serve better and best in both worlds.
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Or, you know, ... they simply didn't have anything to respond with - Occam's razor my friend, Occam's razor.
I think you should only wait for them if you are looking at buying a mid-range card and are a huge fan (to say the least), for everyone else - get an Nvidia card as soon as you find one at a reasonable price, because there are a good number of indicators those are going to rise for at least a while rather soon after release.
Oh, regarding cooking - yeah, they keep doing that, cooking themselves that is... This is a nice exposé on the matter:
 
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HenrySomeone said:
Nah, only worse than those who haven't been paying attention for the last 6 years (or even more - RTG's current downfall started with Cayman back in late 2010) expected ... or AMDtards of course (for the record - I know you're neither of those). I've been saying for a about a year now that the best what Biiiiiig Navi can manage, is roughly match a 2080 super and that's looking more and more like bang on. The problem of course is that it won't even be enough to parry the 3070, leaving them to probably battle the rumored 3060Ti at best, lol :p


Or, you know, ... they simply didn't have anything to respond with - Occam's razor my friend, Occam's razor.
I think you should only wait for them if you are looking at buying a mid-range card and are a huge fan (to say the least), for everyone else - get an Nvidia card as soon as you find one at a reasonable price, because there are a good number of indicators those are going to rise for at least a while rather soon after release.
Oh, regarding cooking - yeah, they keep doing that, cooking themselves that is... This is a nice exposé on the matter:
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I'm glad Steve figured it out too. I wonder, does he read TPU to get his ideas now? :D
 
Vayra86 said:
I'm glad Steve figured it out too. I wonder, does he read TPU to get his ideas now? :D
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Steve nor any other Tuber got Ampere's consumer specs and performance right.
The rumour mill though vibrant is full of shit, so what big Navi is can't be known and given how wrong they got Ampere I am bypassing rumours and waiting on facts before committing anything else as Known.
AMD do indeed need to up their marketing game though, I argued similar with Earthdog a while ago.
 
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nl.hardware.info

Gerucht: AMD's Big Navi bestaat uit twee aparte chips

AMD gaat op 28 oktober zijn eerste RDNA 2-gpu's onthullen, en AMD impliceerde bij het 'onthullen van deze onthulling' dat het zal gaan om meerdere produ...
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Nvidia is cool and all, but they don't market to the enthusiasts. Yet, don't you all express your love for that kind of thing? You like being the average joe.
- 'Marketing'?
Who cares about marketing for the love of gpus...
 
dragontamer5788 said:
There aren't even 3rd party benches for the 3060 / 3070 / 3080 yet. It seems impossible to me that someone can have solid information about both the 3xxx series and Navi2x.
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Not exactly ground breaking or revealing ,so old rumours.
 
I think you need to right click and "show image" or "open in new tab" for it to show the big source image from imgur.
It is a PNG, and I do have compression disabled on imgur, but not sure if this PNG size goes over the "no-compression" threshold rules on imgur.

it's late, calling it a day, try figuring out those numbers on the left some more :)

https://imgur.com/S4Me8J3

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That "AB" could also be "AO" or "A0", the T in "XT" really isn't provable, but we do know that the stupid bright blue led mucks up the lower and upper portion of the text so the top of the T is hidden, but I guess it's an educated guess on the T from the context and experience of the industry followers, I'm not that of a big one so can't say whether it should be a T for sure.
 
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There aren't even 3rd party benches for the 3060 / 3070 / 3080 yet.
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Preliminary results on some games have already been leaked, the performance for the 3070 and 3080 is known already.
 
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Radeon VII vibe.
 
Here is the reason (from as objective as possible) that Big Navi could be great. AMD has more money now than at anytime during their time in the space. That means that the development of Big Navi has been done during a time that AMD has had a positive balance sheet. That means that hiccups in R&D can be more easily mitigated. There is also the fact that Ryzen is obviously stable both in terms of now and for at least 2 generations so there is no need to feed R&D focus on that (about 2 years ago). I have been on AMD since the 6850. Tahiti was faster than Pitcairn and Polaris was more efficient than Tahiti but not faster. Vega was faster than Polaris but was a victim of market dynamics Navi is faster than Vega and more efficient. With the silence around Big Navi from AMD it seems telling but the details of the consoles are encouraging. The number one thing for me though is Nvidia announced the 3000 series and AMD responded with a digital picture of their card in a Game.
 
well, its relative, if you consider 2080ti perf still great after 2 years and 3070 for 500eur
 
Why they are using a cheap five heat-pipe cooler and not a full size car radiator instead ?
Looks like that neither AMD it can avoid making another Hot-Pan as NVIDIA did at RTX series.

Personally I would assist GTX 1660 Super = Units quantity due my next purchase when pricing this further normalize.
 
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