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[TumbleGeorge]

Two guys in a garage made Apple.

This just be too young. Maybe first you need to manage your logic. They would not assemble anything if there were no assembly parts. They only took advantage of ready-made inventions. If electrical computers and components hadn't been invented before, they would have repaired someone's agricultural machine, maybe a seed drill in their garage the most.

But I see the irony. President of United States - actor (Rory)

 

[evernessince]

The Antikythera mechanism would like a word with you.

"ENIAC (/ˈɛniæk/; Electronic Numerical Integrator and Computer)[1][2] was the first programmable, electronic, general-purpose digital computer. "

ENIAC - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You are referencing an analogue computer, which has about as much in common with modern computers as an abacus.

I should not have to specify on a tech forum where the focus is on digital computers that I was in fact speaking of very subject matter that is featured here. An argument of semantics that ignores basic context is just part of commenting on the internet though, always has to be that one guy "well technically....".

Two guys in a garage made Apple.

A Chemist and a Physicist founded Intel.

AMD was founded by some pissed off Fairchild Semi employees.

Amazon was some software engineers working out of a dingy office in a red light district. They were afraid Sears was going to crush them in courts. Might want to watch this video from 1999 for perspective.

From the video, Bezos in his office in 1999:

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Is this a list to prove that capitalism works? If so, that's a very small list. It would be easy to find more failures (stock market crash, injustices of the industrial revolution, trust and monopolies in the US, CEO vs worker wage gap, ect) nor can any one of those be directly attributed to capitalism. Every company you listed is a US company, which does not have a purely capitalistic economy. The US has a mixed economy.

Just as an example, it could easily be argued that the public school system gives workers a basic skill set. If the US did not have a school system, companies like Amazon would have never been able to get enough skilled employees for their company. After all companies are not created in a vacuum. Even the word's most enterprising person won't get anywhere if the country their company in doesn't have sufficient infrastructure, enough quality employees, access to basic utilities like power and water, and the proper regulatory frame work to protect their business (from petty theft to protection of IP). All of these resources and system are provided by distinctly non-capitalistic systems. People sure do champion capitalism as the reason for the US's economic power but in reality the massive socialist programs instituted by FDR and public works programs played a huge role. I would not point to any single thing and say that was the sole reason, economies are not anywhere near that simple.

I digress, this is getting completely off topic and I will not reply to a comment in this vein again.

 

[Vayra86]

Two guys in a garage made Apple.

A Chemist and a Physicist founded Intel.

AMD was founded by some pissed off Fairchild Semi employees.

Amazon was some software engineers working out of a dingy office in a red light district. They were afraid Sears was going to crush them in courts. Might want to watch this video from 1999 for perspective.

From the video, Bezos in his office in 1999:

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Ah yes, the 'American Dream' right. As if all the other countries in the world didn't produce new innovation, inventions... that only happens in American Dreams. You should take a long look at the lobby and ties with government all these guys have right now. What's Amazon innovating these days, by the way? Oh yeah... how to circumvent regulation, not pay tax, and corrupt the healthy workings of a marketplace by buying up anything that gets in their way. And of course all these big tech companies are actively innovating on how to use Big Data to make even more money and gain even more influence and control, to benefit stakeholders. Clearly in our best interests - and a product of capitalism without boundaries.

But let's not stop there. Your Defense department is one the biggest innovators of all time. Government. NASA... government.

Remind me, where did ASML come from exactly?

ASML - Wikipedia

nl.wikipedia.org

Oh yeah... 'socialist' Netherlands... even our right wing is not quite as capitalist as the leftiest left in the US.

Try again - or perhaps adjust your views a bit.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

The US Army financed the first computer (ENIAC) and many other projects by other parts of the government (ARAPNET, the forerunner of the internet).

So no, it's not capitalism you thank, it's democratic socialism. If it weren't for regulatory bodies stepping in on multiple occasions you would still would be running dial up over your bell monopoly phone line and Intel, monitor manufacturers, and RAM manufacturers would either still be maintaining a monopoly or fixing prices.

If there's one thing I thank, it's that no 1st world country is dumb enough to implement capitalism without a significant mix of other types of government and economic systems to cover it's glaring flaws.

the first computer was English built in the 1940’s colossus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_computer

 

[RandallFlagg]

Ah yes, the 'American Dream' right. As if all the other countries in the world didn't produce new innovation, inventions... that only happens in American Dreams.

And that is about as far as I got in your post. I said no such thing in my post, but one thing you just made crystal clear by your statement is that you hate America and Americans.

Thanks you for that insight into your character.

 

[Vayra86]

And that is about as far as I got in your post. I said no such thing in my post, but one thing you just made crystal clear by your statement is that you hate America and Americans.

Thanks you for that insight into your character.

I'm just translating what you posted, if that is enough for you to not read into an opinion that doesn't fit your narrative well... your loss. And a confirmation of many things about character, too, no?

Its a forum, you read things you won't agree with. If you want a monologue... start a blog.

Its funny how you combine hatred for Americans with a dislike for the extremes of capitalism, because that is what the post was really about in response to your celebratory post about self-made men. I never put those two together like you did in your mind. Note that even within your own borders there is a little over half the country that voted in FAVOR of public healthcare for everyone, for example. Pretty 'socialist' ? Or at least not extreme capitalist, of nature. They are hating themselves now, going by your logic.

Its good for cultures to reflect on what they're doing and have done. The Dutch culture is a bit older than the American one, and we've had our moments of reflection too. We reflected on 'colonization' for example, we've had a Golden Age (VOC, google it) where we sailed the world over, a global (economical) influence much like the US today and committing similar atrocities in foreign places. We've had our revolutions... separation of church and state is another such example. There are cultures that haven't quite figured that out either. Lots of Islamic ones notably. Is that disapproving, or just an observation? In my mind it is the latter, and it is an important fact to consider as it defines a culture, and its people. In that way we can learn a thing or two about our own identity, too.

This is not criticism. Its a chance to reflect. What am I attacking, really? You? Your way of life? I'm really not, and neither are your fellow citizens who are of a different opinion as yourself. This is exactly what four years of your last administration has fostered: the inability to engage in normal dialogue. Are you joining that idiot now or can you rise above it?

 

[Sovsefanden]

So glad I recieved my 3080 a few days after launch for MSRP right now.