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Intel 65 W Alder Lake-S Pricing Confirmed

it's about 70w gaming. not tested prime, not really fussed about benches.
Here it is idle @3%
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GURU7OF9 said:
I think Ryzen is much closer to the power specs that they quote than Intel are!
My Ryzen 5600x draws 76w max full load using prime95 at default settings and system full load is approx 135-140w. At idle system is approx 75-80w and cpu is 22w .
So for 65w cpu it is running at 76w full load at default settings. That's pretty close but!
Not double, like 2x + like a lot of Intel cpus.
Not as close AMD 105w at 142 w but they are generally much closer than any Intel cpus. Alderlake is a bit of everything. Good / bad!
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Oh, for sure AMD is much closer to the mark, but they still missed the mark.

I just wish that AMD and Intel would list the "under load" TDP (i.e, sustained all-core boost TDP) so that buyers could select appropriate motherboard and cooling for the real-world power draw that their system will use.

I know that 65/105W AM4 chips need 88W or 142W respectively. Some people are going to see a 105W listing and buy a "120W" cooler for their CPU thinking they'll have cooling headroom and quieter operation, only to discover that the fan is screaming and they're not getting the advertised clockspeeds. That's also with PBO+ disabled, which although considered "stock" is not the default on most boards when using X-series CPUs.
 
Chrispy_ said:
Oh, for sure AMD is much closer to the mark, but they still missed the mark.

I just wish that AMD and Intel would list the "under load" TDP (i.e, sustained all-core boost TDP) so that buyers could select appropriate motherboard and cooling for the real-world power draw that their system will use.

I know that 65/105W AM4 chips need 88W or 142W respectively. Some people are going to see a 105W listing and buy a "120W" cooler for their CPU thinking they'll have cooling headroom and quieter operation, only to discover that the fan is screaming and they're not getting the advertised clockspeeds. That's also with PBO+ disabled, which although considered "stock" is not the default on most boards when using X-series CPUs.
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65w 5600x maxes out at 76w stock settings .if I use pbo then it goes up to around 120w .
You can also set it anywhere in between too!
I would give people who buy 3rd party coolers a little bit more credit . That or they know some one who knows a bit about pcs and HSF.
If they don't then they shouldn't be playing with any of this stuff.
As for pbo being enabled on most motherboards well I'm not so sure about that . I built up 3 in late 2020 and none had it enabled by default.
They were all MSI Tomahawks. 2 x X570 and 1 B450 .
 
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GURU7OF9 said:
65w 5600x maxes out at 76w stock settings .if I use pbo then it goes up to around 120w .
You can also set it anywhere in between too!
I would give people who buy 3rd party coolers a little bit more credit . That or they know some one who knows a bit about pcs and HSF.
If they don't then they shouldn't be playing with any of this stuff.
As for pbo being enabled on most motherboards well I'm not so sure about that . I built up 3 in late 2020 and none had it enabled by default.
They were all MSI Tomahawks. 2 x X570 and 1 B450 .
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Worth considering, Auto can often mean just on, like auto CPU speed control usually actually means "board derived oc by OEM to maximize performance" wherein default is actually default.
 
TheoneandonlyMrK said:
Worth considering, Auto can often mean just on, like auto CPU speed control usually actually means "board derived oc by OEM to maximize performance" wherein default is actually default.
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From what I have read with reviews etc and seen personally, it seems that Intel motherboards are much more likely to have m.c.e on by default with most boards, even a lot of the lower end ones too, much more than pbo on AMD motherboards.
But I haven't really built any high end ones for a while.
Most people want cheap!
Minimum cost please!
 
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