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AMD RX 6950 XT, RX 6750 XT, and RX 6650 XT Pictured, Launching on May 10

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I love that I'm in a time of my life/position to not even have to do them, I just tell my wife what I'm buying, the justification is just that it can't be an impulse buy haha

I'm probably getting old now when the all the impulse buying I have now are household maintenance related, haven't gotten any upgrade to my PC in almost 2 years now :p.
 

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I'm probably getting old now when the all the impulse buying I have now are household maintenance related, haven't gotten any upgrade to my PC in almost 2 years now :p.
I know that feeling too, home ownership has proven very rewarding for me.

My next that I've already pre-committed to is the C2 42", then maybe roll the dice trying for a next gen GPU at launch again.
 
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I really hope this to be an opportunity for AMD to make a small pricing correction for 6700XT and below (6800 and above seems just fine regarding competitiveness vs Nvidia) although probably won't happening. Not something too aggressive, just enough for not to seem like a slap in the face.
Let's suppose that 6750XT is matching 3070 at QHD, it will need +8.5% performance vs 6700XT and 6650XT gets the same +8.5% boost , then I guess something like below in pricing will make sense:

Perf........Model.......SRP
205.0-----3070.........$499.00
205.1-----6750XT.....$499.00
189.0-----6700XT.....$449.00 (-$30)
182.0-----3060.........$399.00
160.6-----6650XT.....$379.00
148.0-----6600XT.....$349.00 (-$30)
139.0-----3060.........$329.00
125.0-----6600.........$299.00 (-$30)
100.0-----3050.........$249.00


If they drop at $299 the 6600 at least will give them more freedom to sell below MSRP the GPU that no one seems to want (6500XT) although I don't think they will lower the MSRP officially. The pricing of 6500XT is so bad that when we had 30%-60% scalping for all the VGAs, 6500XT was selling below MSRP...
 
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I disagree with this, I prefer very high refresh rate gaming, so I am more than happy to use a 6950 XT with a 1440p 240hz for example.
I guess everyone have a preference, but the point is that AMD is marketing the Navi 21 as an enthusiast GPU for 4K gaming. It is similar where you can run a Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti @ 1440p, but that does not change the fact that the company intended the card for 4K gaming.

In any case, I find such a late cycle refresh pointless. I am skeptical that we will see any tangible gain in performance. And since AMD is not making any changes to improve the CU count, they can only rely on faster memory speed and GPU clockspeed to boost performance, generally at the expense of power consumption.
 
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I think:

RX 6950 XT is enthusiast-tier;
RX 6900 XT is enthusiast-tier;
RX 6800 XT is high-end;
RX 6800 is upper mid-range;
RX 6750 XT is upper mid-range;
RX 6700 XT is mid-range;
RX 6650 XT is lower mid-range;
RX 6600 XT, RX 6600 and RX 6500 XT are low-end and something has to be entry level.
That ... is just not right. I mean, the xx50 SKUs are minor refreshes of existing models, and none of them qualify as being a different tier than the model they're based on. I'll even be surprised if they end up being on the market concurrently - they're that similar. And classifying the 6800 as upper midrange is just flat out wrong. You're starting out sensibly at the top, but then your ranking falls off a cliff as you seemingly insist that every SKU is a tier down from the one above.

So, more like this:
69xx: Flagship ("upper high end", marginally faster than the high end)
68xx: High end (2160p >60fps, 1440p high refresh rate)
67xx: Upper midrange/lower high end (2160p60-ish, not quite as high at 1440p)
66xx: Lower midrange - Midrange (1440p >60fps, 1080p high refresh rate)
65xx: Naming-wise low end, performance-wise entry level, price-wise just absurd. (~1080p60)

Now, the range of acceptable/usable GPU performance has broadened massively in later years as higher resolutions and refresh rates have proliferated, and we're seeing far more SKUs than before thanks to that, and especially when mixed with the pricing nonsense going on this all tends to confuse these rough divisions. But your divisions still don't make sense. The 6650 XT is decidedly not going to be a lower midrange SKU, nor is the rest of the 66xx series low-end (or in the same tier as the 6500 XT). Heck, the base 6600 is pretty much a 1080p120fps GPU (delivering above 60fps at 1440p), with the XT being noticeably faster. Calling that low-end or entry level is nonsensical. If that's the case, where would you position a 1080p60 GPU?
I guess everyone have a preference, but the point is that AMD is marketing the Navi 21 as an enthusiast GPU for 4K gaming. It is similar where you can run a Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti @ 1440p, but that does not change the fact that the company intended the card for 4K gaming.
That's definitely true - higher end cards are marketed for the highest resolutions they can reasonably handle - but high refresh rate is becoming an increasing focus, with 1440p144 or 1440p240 starting to show up in high end GPU comparisons. Those 6800 XT marketing slides @looniam posted demonstrate this. As there is a wider range of monitors, resoluitions and refresh rates, the framing of products also adapts to this, where even just a few years ago high refresh rate was a tiny niche it's now relatively mainstream - 1080p~144 displays are the new entry level for gaming, after all. GPU makers don't care whether you're buying their flagship for 2160p144 or 1440p240 use as long as you're buying it, after all.
 
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If I were a betting man, I'd bet that this is still the older 7nm process because these are just mid-cycle rebrands to hold down the fort until RDNA3 is here. Optical shrinks still cost a lot of money and time investment just to setup, and it's not as if AMD are having any trouble at all selling every 7nm 6000-series card they make, either.

Chances are good that the new models are just bins and die-harvests.

6950XT will be full Navi21 with higher clocks due to binning, probably astronomical price and power draw.
6750XT will likely be die harvests of Navi21 that couldn't be made into working RX6800 cards
6650XT will liekly be die harvests of Navi22 that couldn't be made into working 6700XT

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that full-silicon was 80CU for Navi21, 40CU for Navi22, and 32CU for Navi23, so I don't think there are extra CUs in the silicon to be enabled for the 6900XT, 6700XT, or 6600XT.
 
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If I were a betting man, I'd bet that this is still the older 7nm process because these are just mid-cycle rebrands to hold down the fort until RDNA3 is here. Optical shrinks still cost a lot of money and time investment just to setup, and it's not as if AMD are having any trouble at all selling every 7nm 6000-series card they make, either.

Chances are good that the new models are just bins and die-harvests.

6950XT will be full Navi21 with higher clocks due to binning, probably astronomical price and power draw.
6750XT will likely be die harvests of Navi21 that couldn't be made into working RX6800 cards
6650XT will liekly be die harvests of Navi22 that couldn't be made into working 6700XT

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that full-silicon was 80CU for Navi21, 40CU for Navi22, and 32CU for Navi23, so I don't think there are extra CUs in the silicon to be enabled for the 6900XT, 6700XT, or 6600XT.
Rumors are that these are just higher clocked SKUs with faster memory, possibly taking advantage of better binning, but ultimately it won't be a major change no matter what.
 
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I'm probably getting old now when the all the impulse buying I have now are household maintenance related, haven't gotten any upgrade to my PC in almost 2 years now :p.
Instead of paying 1500 for a mid range GPU, I spent 1500 on a new privacy fence. Feels good man.
 
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the only gaming monitors you can buy are high refresh these days... and they cost $160... my current Acer 165hz 1080p 23.8" IPS screen cost me $160 on sale actually.

so.... :kookoo:

Doesnt mean you are running or targeting high refresh. Its overcomplication of what is a 'rough' line up of GPU tiers, much like ARFs level of detail.

But, you do you ;) Nobody saying your use case doesnt exist but the relevance is questionable

I love that I'm in a time of my life/position to not even have to do them, I just tell my wife what I'm buying, the justification is just that it can't be an impulse buy haha

Heh if you need justification, its probably a buyers remorse in the making... in my humble experience
 
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How many fps are you getting from that? :D
About 5 planks per second. Strangely, if I stare at one board I only get 1 board per second, must be some kind of glitch.
 
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If I were a betting man, I'd bet that this is still the older 7nm process because these are just mid-cycle rebrands to hold down the fort until RDNA3 is here. Optical shrinks still cost a lot of money and time investment just to setup, and it's not as if AMD are having any trouble at all selling every 7nm 6000-series card they make, either.

Chances are good that the new models are just bins and die-harvests.

6950XT will be full Navi21 with higher clocks due to binning, probably astronomical price and power draw.
6750XT will likely be die harvests of Navi21 that couldn't be made into working RX6800 cards
6650XT will liekly be die harvests of Navi22 that couldn't be made into working 6700XT

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that full-silicon was 80CU for Navi21, 40CU for Navi22, and 32CU for Navi23, so I don't think there are extra CUs in the silicon to be enabled for the 6900XT, 6700XT, or 6600XT.
Yeah this seems like the most likely outcome. I wonder if the release of these SKUs when we are supposedly close to the launch of RDNA3 means that RDNA3 will be delayed.
 

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Yeah this seems like the most likely outcome. I wonder if the release of these SKUs when we are supposedly close to the launch of RDNA3 means that RDNA3 will be delayed.

This would be bad for the users. We need a new version of the Radeon RX 6800 XT instead, with improved binning and lower power draw because of the improved process.
AMD makes a mistake once again. I guess its target is the title "fastest graphics card on the planet". I bet it will be missed.

Moore's "law" is dead.

If I were a betting man, I'd bet that this is still the older 7nm process because these are just mid-cycle rebrands to hold down the fort until RDNA3 is here. Optical shrinks still cost a lot of money and time investment just to setup, and it's not as if AMD are having any trouble at all selling every 7nm 6000-series card they make, either.

Chances are good that the new models are just bins and die-harvests.

6950XT will be full Navi21 with higher clocks due to binning, probably astronomical price and power draw.
6750XT will likely be die harvests of Navi21 that couldn't be made into working RX6800 cards
6650XT will liekly be die harvests of Navi22 that couldn't be made into working 6700XT

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that full-silicon was 80CU for Navi21, 40CU for Navi22, and 32CU for Navi23, so I don't think there are extra CUs in the silicon to be enabled for the 6900XT, 6700XT, or 6600XT.

I think we are currently not in the mid-cycle period. We are much closer to the new RDNA v.3 generation.
So, more like belated stop-gaps.
 
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About 5 planks per second. Strangely, if I stare at one board I only get 1 board per second, must be some kind of glitch.
It's probably just a power saving feature, like what phones do when there's no movement on screen?
 
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My guess is $1299 on 6950 XT or $1199. I figure, since I average only 1 gf every 15 years at my current rate, the cost savings from that alone auto pays for a 6950 XT, so I am not too worried about it mate. Game on :rockout:

also those fucking scalpers with bots who inevitably are going to win out the sale of them, can pre-emptively eat shit.

mods will allow this post, deep down, when they are snuggling under the blankies, they agree with me on this. :love:
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Heh if you need justification, its probably a buyers remorse in the making... in my humble experience
It has been a very verrrrry long time since I've had buyers remorse on any tech related purchases. Everyone buys what they want for different reasons, lord knows many people online disagree with my purchase rationale for wanting what I want, because they wouldn't buy the same thing.

At least by my own measure, I am well enough versed on the tech that I'm into and have criteria for what I want from a product often before it even exists. Once a product comes out that ticks all the right boxes that I set, I already know there won't be buyers remorse.
 
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