Intel 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" Launch and Availability Dates Confirmed

[btarunr]

A leaked Intel company document detailing the "go to market" (GTM) plan for its 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" desktop processors, reveals key dates associated with it. Intel will likely hold a launch event for the 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" processors on September 27, 2022 (when it's September 28 in Taiwan). This happens to be the same day AMD's Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors go on sale. Pre-orders for these processors will open on October 13, 2022 (or October 14 in Taiwan). This is when you'll be able to order one online. October 20 is when the processors will be available to purchase off the shelf (October 21 in Taiwan). This document does not deal with review NDAs, so we'll have to guess that reviews go live somewhere between September 27 and October 13.

Built on the same Intel 7 process as "Alder Lake," "Raptor Lake" introduces an IPC increase with its "Raptor Cove" P-cores, and a doubling in the count of its "Gracemont" E-cores, along with increases in L2 cache sizes for both the P-cores and E-core clusters. The processor is said to be built on the same LGA1700 package as the 12th Gen, and compatible with Intel 600 series chipset motherboards with a UEFI firmware update. The processors launch alongside new Intel 700-series chipset motherboards that have out-of-the-box support for them.



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[dj-electric]

"Something" tells me Intel has a good chance of pulling market availability back to "sooner" status

 

[Crackong]

That picture literally listed some PR BS they are going to do.

Expect 'Intel Leaks" everyday starts on 15th Sep

 

[Why_Me]

That picture literally listed some PR BS they are going to do.

Expect 'Intel Leaks" everyday starts on 15th Sep

Let's just hope Raptor Lake isn't a hose job such as AMD's 7600X @ $300 USD.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

The price of the 7950x is a preemptive move by AMD, I hope Intel has enough stock of 13th leading to pricing war.

 

[MarsM4N]

Info "leaks" just on the day of AMD's presentation. Intel NDA lifts just on the day AMD chips hit the shelfs.

They sure playing their games, lol.

 

[Crackong]

Info "leaks" just on the day of AMD's presentation. Intel NDA lifts just on the day AMD chips hit the shelfs.

They sure playing their games, lol.

Compare the shear amount of AMD leaks and Intel 'leaks'.
I am pretty sure everyone and his dog knows where all the intel 'leaks' came from.

Otherwise Intel would have the worse NDA practices on the planet.

 

[GoldenX]

Can't wait to see how they overheat.

 

[P4-630]

Can't wait to see how they overheat.

AMD you mean? I mean it seems they all need undervolting/tweaking to keep them from running too hot at stock speed....

 

[usiname]

AMD you mean? I mean it seems they all need undervolting/tweaking to keep them from running too hot at stock speed....

Intel is overheating my boy

 

[P4-630]

Intel is overheating my boy
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Don't even know what load and what cooler used there...

Well my i7 12700K Air cooled benchmarked on a warm summer day: 74C max.... Oh and no tweaked voltage or whatever....

 

[JustBenching]

Don't even know what load and what cooler used there...

Well my i7 12700K Air cooled benchmarked on a warm summer day: 74C max.... Oh and no tweaked voltage or whatever....
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My 12900k hits 76c on a u12a. Whats your cooler?

Intel is overheating my boy
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Seems like user error.

 

[Daven]

Most leaks show little to no IPC increase for Raptor Lake. That will be the focus when it launches and hopefully prove the leaks wrong.

 

[ncrs]

My 12900k hits 76c on a u12a. Whats your cooler?


Seems like user error.

I doubt that @W1zzard made those in an important review like that
Anyway from the article that graph is from: We use a Noctua NH-U14S and measured the CPU temperature while running Blender.

 

[JustBenching]

I doubt that @W1zzard made those in an important review like that
Anyway from the article that graph is from: We use a Noctua NH-U14S and measured the CPU temperature while running Blender.

Oh he did plenty regarding the alderlake reviews. His power limited numbers are all flawed for example.

 

[ncrs]

Oh he did plenty regarding the alderlake reviews. His power limited numbers are all flawed for example.

That's interesting, care to elaborate?

 

[P4-630]

Whats your cooler?

U12A

 

[1d10t]

Info "leaks" just on the day of AMD's presentation. Intel NDA lifts just on the day AMD chips hit the shelfs.

They sure playing their games, lol.

Like always, they can play their discount and rebate card

 

[JustBenching]

That's interesting, care to elaborate?

Well, a 12900k at 125w power limit scores 24 to 24.5k in cbr23. In tpus testing it scores 18k. Which doesnt make any sense, since that's how much a 12600k scores at same wattage, something that is literally impossible. The same pretty much applies to the rest of his testing, the power limited numbers are all off, some of them even by up to 70%

 

[Bloax]

Intel is overheating my boy
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ADL runs surprisingly cool if you disable HT, and you will easily afford to do so on RPL with all the e-cores to do throughput tasks.
Very yummy, honestly!

With HT enabled - yeah, those P-Cores are ovens unless you run a reasonable voltage/frequency, heehee

Why would you disable HT? Well, you know - the usual SKIZZO omgomg le input latency xddd run 1t memoery low rtl itx board whoah whao hw ahohhhh thingymabob.
Also the heat thing, I guess.

 

[ncrs]

Well, a 12900k at 125w power limit scores 24 to 24.5k in cbr23. In tpus testing it scores 18k. Which doesnt make any sense, since that's how much a 12600k scores at same wattage, something that is literally impossible. The same pretty much applies to the rest of his testing, the power limited numbers are all off, some of them even by up to 70%

I am assuming you mean this test:

Since 12600K's default configuration is PL1=125W, PL2=228W and turbo power of 150W it makes sense to me that a 12900K limited to 125W on all is only slightly faster while having 2 more P-cores, and the relatively small PL2 time with 241W limit also increases the score. Or am I reading this wrong?

 

[JustBenching]

I am assuming you mean this test:

Since 12600K's default configuration is PL1=125W, PL2=228W and turbo power of 150W it makes sense to me that a 12900K limited to 125W on all is only slightly faster while having 2 more P-cores, and the relatively small PL2 time with 241W limit also increases the score. Or am I reading this wrong?

You are reading it wrong. On the last page there is power draw during test. The 12600k consumed the same amount as tje 12900k at 125w. Also the 12900k has 2 p cores and 4 e cores more..

All that is irrelevant though, cause both me and other reviewers have actually tested the 12900k (or even the 12700) and got way different results. For example, techspot tested a 12700 non k at 65w and it scored 16k. Club365 and igorslab tested the 12900k at 125w and it basically scored 24k in cbr23 and was also faster than the 5900x in blender. Ive personally tested 3 12900ks on 4 different mobos, all of them score between 23.5 and 24.5k.

Tpus results are without a doubt wrong. And the further down you go in the power limit numbers the more wrong they are. At 75w for example it should have scored around 18k, he has it at 11k, lol.

 

[napata]

You are reading it wrong. On the last page there is power draw during test. The 12600k consumed the same amount as tje 12900k at 125w. Also the 12900k has 2 p cores and 4 e cores more..

All that is irrelevant though, cause both me and other reviewers have actually tested the 12900k (or even the 12700) and got way different results. For example, techspot tested a 12700 non k at 65w and it scored 16k. Club365 and igorslab tested the 12900k at 125w and it basically scored 24k in cbr23 and was also faster than the 5900x in blender. Ive personally tested 3 12900ks on 4 different mobos, all of them score between 23.5 and 24.5k.

Tpus results are without a doubt wrong. And the further down you go in the power limit numbers the more wrong they are. At 75w for example it should have scored around 18k, he has it at 11k, lol.

Poorly configured DC loadline might be the cause? That's the only thing I can think of that would explain the results as I'm pretty sure the PLs are based on power package so if that number's wrong you'll throttle too early or too late.

Not sure why you'd need to touch LLCs for testing power limits though.

 

[ncrs]

You are reading it wrong. On the last page there is power draw during test. The 12600k consumed the same amount as tje 12900k at 125w. Also the 12900k has 2 p cores and 4 e cores more..

All that is irrelevant though, cause both me and other reviewers have actually tested the 12900k (or even the 12700) and got way different results. For example, techspot tested a 12700 non k at 65w and it scored 16k. Club365 and igorslab tested the 12900k at 125w and it basically scored 24k in cbr23 and was also faster than the 5900x in blender. Ive personally tested 3 12900ks on 4 different mobos, all of them score between 23.5 and 24.5k.

Tpus results are without a doubt wrong. And the further down you go in the power limit numbers the more wrong they are. At 75w for example it should have scored around 18k, he has it at 11k, lol.

Thanks for the explanation.
Were those test you reference done as early on as TPU's? Is an un-optimized BIOS or microcode a possible culprit?

 

[JustBenching]

Poorly configured DC loadline might be the cause? That's the only thing I can think of that would explain the results as I'm pretty sure the PLs are based on power package so if that number's wrong you'll throttle too early or too late.

Not sure why you'd need to touch LLCs for testing power limits though.

Yea, either dc ac lls that cause this or fixed voltage

Thanks for the explanation.
Were those test you reference done as early on as TPU's? Is an un-optimized BIOS or microcode a possible culprit?

No they werent as early except igors lab, but it is highly unlikely its caused by bios. Most likely wrongly configured lls or fixed voltage