AMD Ryzen 7 7700 (non-X) Surfaces; Possibly OEM-only

[btarunr]

AMD is preparing to expand its Ryzen 7000-series "Zen 4" desktop processor series with new SKUs, one of which is the Ryzen 7 7700 (non-X). Given past trends with non-X SKUs for the Ryzen 5000-series, the 7700 is very likely an OEM-only SKU to be featured in pre-built desktops. The inclusion of an iGPU with the Ryzen 7000-series changes things dramatically for AMD, as it makes these processors suitable for even home- and commercial desktops that lack discrete graphics. The Ryzen 7 7700 has the same 8-core/16-thread configuration as the Ryzen 7 7700X, but likely lower clock-speeds, due to the lower power-limits. The chip has a TDP of 65 W, compared to the 105 W of the 7700X; which means its package power tracking (PPT) power limit will be closer to 90 W, than the 140 W of the 7700X. This will also significantly lower the cooling requirements for the processor, and OEMs could use cost-effective air coolers. The exact clock-speeds, though, remain under the wraps.



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[Deleted member 185088]

Like the 5900. It makes sense especially with OEM not caring about thermals.

 

[Shou Miko]

Like the 5900. It makes sense especially with OEM not caring about thermals.

With high price of the 7000 series it don't make sense to make it "OEM" only because of how things are with inflation.

AMD already annonced the 7000 series production will slow down because there ain't enough buyers and I can understand that because I was really one of them looking forward to go with Ryzen 7000 but not if I have to pay double the price for everything and I can get a 12 or 13gen Intel for less even reuse DDR4...

So AMD has to thing wisely because with the cheapest B650-Non E board costing about £235 here and then 32GB AMD Expo memory from G.Skill 6000MT/s for another £200 and the 7700X for about £450 it's downhill.

Intel Core i7 12700K is about £410, MSI Pro Z670-A DDR4 (Which is a really good Z670 board) is only about £195 and 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw 4000MT/s CL18 for abnout £120 and the user can save £110 and get a Z series chipset AMD could be able to do better with their B series board I know that PCI Gen5 ain't cheap but come on.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

With high price of the 7000 series it don't make sense to make it "OEM" only because of how things are with inflation.

AMD already annonced the 7000 series production will slow down because there ain't enough buyers and I can understand that because I was really one of them looking forward to go with Ryzen 7000 but not if I have to pay double the price for everything and I can get a 12 or 13gen Intel for less even reuse DDR4...

So AMD has to thing wisely because with the cheapest B650-Non E board costing about £235 here and then 32GB AMD Expo memory from G.Skill 6000MT/s for another £200 and the 7700X for about £450 it's downhill.

Intel Core i7 12700K is about £410, MSI Pro Z670-A DDR4 (Which is a really good Z670 board) is only about £195 and 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw 4000MT/s CL18 for abnout £120 and the user can save £110 and get a Z series chipset AMD could be able to do better with their B series board I know that PCI Gen5 ain't cheap but come on.

Same here I was entertaining the idea of getting zen4 (and RTX4XXX, here the prices are beyond stupid), but AMD fucked up with the prices, mostly of motherboards, B650 costs twice a B550 with similar features, I think they cost more than some Z790.

They should've offered motherboards with 125€ (real price the one we pay not fake MSRP). Or at least launch only the Ryzen9s, and then launch the rest when motherboards are correctly priced.

 

[prtskg]

These CPUs will be more interesting next year when prices of AM5 motherboards become sane.

 

[Why_Me]

With high price of the 7000 series it don't make sense to make it "OEM" only because of how things are with inflation.

AMD already annonced the 7000 series production will slow down because there ain't enough buyers and I can understand that because I was really one of them looking forward to go with Ryzen 7000 but not if I have to pay double the price for everything and I can get a 12 or 13gen Intel for less even reuse DDR4...

So AMD has to thing wisely because with the cheapest B650-Non E board costing about £235 here and then 32GB AMD Expo memory from G.Skill 6000MT/s for another £200 and the 7700X for about £450 it's downhill.

Intel Core i7 12700K is about £410, MSI Pro Z670-A DDR4 (Which is a really good Z670 board) is only about £195 and 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw 4000MT/s CL18 for abnout £120 and the user can save £110 and get a Z series chipset AMD could be able to do better with their B series board I know that PCI Gen5 ain't cheap but come on.

How much in your country for a B660 + 12700F + DDR4 3600 CL18?

i7 12700 / 12700F gaming benchmarks.

 

[Wirko]

AMD already annonced the 7000 series production will slow down because there ain't enough buyers and I can understand that because I was really one of them looking forward to go with Ryzen 7000 but not if I have to pay double the price for everything and I can get a 12 or 13gen Intel for less even reuse DDR4...

So AMD has to thing wisely because with the cheapest B650-Non E board costing about £235 here and then 32GB AMD Expo memory from G.Skill 6000MT/s for another £200 and the 7700X for about £450 it's downhill.

It's not like AMD needs to ramp up Ryzen 7000 fast. I'm sure that their Ryzen 5000 sales will remain strong for months, if only prices continue to drop like they have so far. They also don't need to (and can't) reallocate wafer production from 5000 to 7000 because they are not on the same node. In the meantime, they are hoarding the chiplets for other uses.

 

[docnorth]

A 7700 non-x in the retail market would directly compete with both 7600x and 7700x. For me it makes more sense to introduce a 7600 non-x for the retail market soon, so that AMD can compete with Intel's I5s.

 

[Shou Miko]

How much in your country for a B660 + 12700F + DDR4 3600 CL18?

i7 12700 / 12700F gaming benchmarks.

3600MT/s is usually not a great buy and here for the same G.Skill kit just 3600MT/s CL18 it's about £104 and I don't like Intel B for Bad board because they luck them down too much so never looks at them.

 

[Kapone33]

Same here I was entertaining the idea of getting zen4 (and RTX4XXX, here the prices are beyond stupid), but AMD fucked up with the prices, mostly of motherboards, B650 costs twice a B550 with similar features, I think they cost more than some Z790.

They should've offered motherboards with 125€ (real price the one we pay not fake MSRP). Or at least launch only the Ryzen9s, and then launch the rest when motherboards are correctly priced.

The MBs prices are not Amd's fault.

 

[Shou Miko]

It's not like AMD needs to ramp up Ryzen 7000 fast. I'm sure that their Ryzen 5000 sales will remain strong for months, if only prices continue to drop like they have so far. They also don't need to (and can't) reallocate wafer production from 5000 to 7000 because they are not on the same node. In the meantime, they are hoarding the chiplets for other uses.

Yeah the 5000 series still selling strong and the second hand market for a B550 or X570 is good that how I ended up with my Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero for £200 with 1 year warranty left and new price for where it's in stock is holy banana £435 which still makes me thing I got a awesome deal.

In the next couple of month maybe next year I will be looking at 32GB or 64GB for a good deal about 3600-3800MT/s with about CL18 from G.Skill because they have the best compatbility.