ASUS ROG Gaming Notebooks at CES: "Zen 4" and "Raptor Lake" Choices

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At the 2023 International CES, ASUS ROG announced several of its upcoming gaming notebooks across several form-factors. ASUS was one of the very few gaming PC brands to show off upcoming products based on an AMD Ryzen 7000 series processors besides those based on 13th Gen Intel Core processors. The star-attraction is the ROG Flow Z13 (GZ301-2023), an ultraportable gaming tablet that folds into a notebook—a very rare device. It packs a 13-inch 16:10 ROG Nebula display with 2560 x 1600 pixels resolution, 165 Hz, 3 ms response time, and NVIDIA G-SYNC. Under the hood, the ROG Flow Z13 rocks an Intel Core i9-13900H 6P+8E processor, GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU with Advanced Optimus. The device puts out a 170° kick stand, and a detachable full-size keyboard.

The 2023 ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 is the company's fastest gaming notebook to be powered by an AMD processor. The 14-inch conventional form-factor notebook packs a 2560 x 1600 pixels mini-LED display with 165 Hz refresh-rate, 3 ms response time, 100% DCI-P3 coverage, and G-SYNC. The main muscle is an AMD Ryzen 7000 series processor (very likely from the "Phoenix Point" Ryzen 7045 series), and a GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU. While not an AMD Advantage laptop, ASUS has given this its own in-house ROG Intelligent Cooling system that incorporates vapor-chamber base plates and liquid-metal TIM.



The 2023 ASUS ROG Strix Scar 16 leads the pack with an ASUS Nebula HDR 16-inch mini-LED display with 2560 x 1600 pixels resolution, 240 Hz refresh-rate, 3 ms response time, 100% DCI-P3, and NVIDIA G-SYNC. Processor options go all the way up to a 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13980HX 8P+16E flagship processor, and GPU options up to an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 with 175 W TGP. This one too incorporates the ROG Intelligent Cooling system with triple-fan ventilation, full-width heatsinks, and Conductonaut Extreme TIM on both the CPU and GPU.

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[TumbleGeorge]

Ryzen 7045 "Phoenix Point"

XXX5 is Dragon.

 

[mkppo]

Seeing how 7950X scales to 35W, at 55W that Ryzen 7045HX is going to stomp any intel, actually scratch that, any mobile CPU pretty damn hard.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

I'm really interested to see how battery life will be with Zen4 and RTX4000.

 

[BoboOOZ]

XXX5 is Dragon.

Yepp, Phoenix is the budget line, Dragon Range is the high performance line.

 

[wNotyarD]

Yepp, Phoenix is the budget line, Dragon Range is the high performance line.

I know Phoenix encompasses the 7020 series, but is a 7940HS really budget?

 

[TumbleGeorge]

I know Phoenix encompasses the 7020 series, but is a 7940HS really budget?

No, xx40 series is Phoenix, xx45 Dragon. Series with smaller third number a.k.a. xx3x or xx2x come with architectures older than ZEN 4.

 

[wNotyarD]

No xx40 series is Phoenix, xx45 Dragon. Series with smaller third number a.k.a. xx3x or xx2x come with architectures older than ZEN 4.

Then I misinterpreted AMD's CES presentation as Phoenix encompassing 7030, 7035 and 7040. My mistake then.

Edit: Googling around, it seems 7030 is Zen 3 and 7035 is Zen 3+. I would call those budget, instead of the 7040 series.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

Then I misinterpreted AMD's CES presentation as Phoenix encompassing 7030, 7035 and 7040. My mistake then.

Edit: Googling around, it seems 7030 is Zen 3 and 7035 is Zen 3+. I would call those budget, instead of the 7040 series.

Sorry, missing one comma mistranslated part of the first sentence in my answer. It has already been fixed.

 

[wNotyarD]

Sorry, missing one comma mistranslated part of the first sentence in my answer. It has already been fixed.

I understood perfectly well what you said. As I use commas all the time (more than I should, probably) I did read with them mentally

 

[BoboOOZ]

Edit: Googling around, it seems 7030 is Zen 3 and 7035 is Zen 3+. I would call those budget, instead of the 7040 series.

"Budget" was a lazy verbal shortcut, Phoenix are meant to be used as APUs, so the CPUs are not as high performance. Dragon Range is for pairing with discrete graphics only. So a Phoenix with a 4090 wouldn't make much sense.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU

Were there any concrete specs given out for this? It would be interesting to see the specs in the GPU DB.

Edit: Googling around, it seems 7030 is Zen 3 and 7035 is Zen 3+. I would call those budget, instead of the 7040 series.

The Phoenix ones are monolithic with a relatively powerful iGPU and weaker CPU, whereas the Dragon Range ones are the desktop chiplets on a BGA package for laptops. Functionally identical to Raphael, but more easily adapted to the laptop form factor, and given lower TDPs.

 

[Kapone33]

I want one of those 6000 APu laptops. We don't need a Discrete card but still give the chip a 150+ Watt power envelope. With 32GB of DDR5 6000.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Nice tease, no pricing to knock your socks off

 

[ODOGG26]

I want a top of the line Phoenix AMD Advantage.

 

[Xajel]

Yepp, Phoenix is the budget line, Dragon Range is the high performance line.

"Phoenix Point" or the 7040 is marketed by AMD as a "Premium & Thin" laptop processor. So it's definitely not a budget line.

It seems that AMD is making older-gen processors for the budget market, that's why they're having Zen2, Zen3 & Zen4 in the whole 7000 series APUs. Some of them are rebadged and some are new silicon.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

Phoenix Point" or the 7040 is marketed by AMD as a "Premium & Thin" laptop processor.

Later in time, it will be relegated to use in lower price range laptops. So far, the launch of mobile processors, um, now rather systems on a chip, has always been in premium products. It was the same story with the 6000 series.

 

[Xajel]

Later in time, it will be relegated to use in lower price range laptops. So far, the launch of mobile processors, um, now rather systems on a chip, has always been in premium products. It was the same story with the 6000 series.

AMD has always did this, the newer chips are premium, but later they will be rebadged for midrange, then lower and lower.

When Zen2 as the top range, AMD didn't have any Zen powered low power and budget CPUs, it wasn't until further in the life of Zen3 they introduced Zen1(+) as a budget architecture.

But, we're talking about this time, and in the months to come, 7040 will be a premium product, and maybe with Ryzen 8000/9000 APUs it will be rebadged as a lower tier APU.