Installed Windows 11 with TPM Disabled? Expect an Ugly Watermark on the Desktop

Aquinus · Feb 24, 2023

AsRock said:
Sooo ?, just ignore the water mark ?.

To remove the watermark from the desktop, first fire up Regedit, expand the HKEY_CURRENT_USER branch, find the UnsupportedHardwareNotificationCache entry and then right-click this lengthy word and change the SV2 DWORD value from 1 to 0. Next, close Regedit, restart the PC, and your lovely wallpaper will return unsullied. However, it wouldn't be totally unexpected for the watermark to return in later Windows updates.

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Chrispy_ · Feb 24, 2023

Microsoft aren't helping their abysmal Win11 adoption rates with this move.

People who bypassed the TPM requirement are knowledgeable enough to bypass this shitty watermark too, so what even is the point, FFS?!

The only outcome for this is a bunch of unnecessary busywork that does nothing apart from discourage people from Win11 and propagate anti-microsoft discussions all over the web. It's just bad PR, however you try to spin it.

TumbleGeorge · Feb 24, 2023

GotNoRice said:
Intel Pentium 4 631 + unknown Mobo (Old Dell)

What? This might be not possible to run any modern OS.

ThrashZone · Feb 24, 2023

Hi,
This was supposed to happen a year ago, yeah live with it that funny :laugh:

No problem tutorials been around since first talked about

Remove "System requirements not met" message on Desktop and Settings in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to remove the "System requirements not met" watermark on the desktop and message in Settings for your account or all users in Windows 11. When Windows 11 is installed on a device that does not meet the minimum system requirements, Windows will notify you using a...

www.elevenforum.com

Which only adds these entries to remove the watermarks
.

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\UnsupportedHardwareNotificationCache]
"SV1"=dword:00000000
"SV2"=dword:00000000

GotNoRice said:
There is no watermark, and there has never been a watermark on any release build of Windows 11. If you have any actual evidence to the contrary, please post it here.

Just look at that screenshot, it's not even running 22H2. Looking at the the build version, you can see that it was actually a Developer or Release-Preview version of 21H2 from last year.

Early last year, there were some Developer and Release-Preview builds that started showing up with the watermark. That watermark never made it to any actual release build. Later on, the watermark also disappeared from the newer Developer and Release-Preview builds.

Some actual fact checking would be nice. I mean common, it shows 21H2 right there in the screenshot, it's not like it's hidden or hard to see. Neither is the date in the bottom right of the screenshot... lol

Yeah they could of gone to the horses mouth instead of toms hellhole site :laugh:

Windows 11 on devices that don't meet minimum system requirements - Microsoft Support

Installing Windows 11 on devices that do not meet minimum system requirements is unsupported and is not recommended by Microsoft.

support.microsoft.com

Teiji · Feb 24, 2023

I still haven't seen it. Maybe the update hasn't hit my PC yet. But even if they added it, it'd makes no difference to me because my Wallpaper Engine would be on top of it anyway. lol

bearClaw5 · Feb 24, 2023

Haziza said:
People still isn't using Ghost Spectre Superlife 11?

First I've heard of it, but it looks nice. It even has the live tiles.

Operandi · Feb 24, 2023

Ketadine said:
Get Windows 11 Compact or Superlite people, with no TPM requirements and without the usual bloatware and telemetry that the standard installation has. Video here and link here.

Updated video link

I would suggest making your own installation media with a known good ISO for safety reasons with a method similar to this.

Dimitriman · Feb 24, 2023

I can't believe M$ is still pushing this TPM requirement for Windows 11. This is akin to a game studio forcing you to have a 4000 series Nvidia or 7000 series AMD GPU for their latest AAA game otherwise you can't even install the game at all...

ThrashZone · Feb 24, 2023

Dimitriman said:
I can't believe M$ is still pushing this TPM requirement for Windows 11. This is akin to a game studio forcing you to have a 4000 series Nvidia or 7000 series AMD GPU for their latest AAA game otherwise you can't even install the game at all...

Hi,
Yeah this is all about MS account users security bs because defender can't stop stupid people from getting hit with ransomware by clicking on everything in emails/.. they don't know :laugh:

But tpm is just one of five requirements for 11
TPM
CPU
GPT
UEFI only boot
Secure boot

I leap frog over all this nonsense requirements

ZoneDymo · Feb 24, 2023

ok guess I wont be switching to 11 at all then, what a weird move form MS

ThrashZone · Feb 24, 2023

Hi,
Yeah I've been using 11 for the last few weeks everyday but I use a lot of tweaks to get rid of a lot so it's doesn't even look like 11 desktop wise looks like 10 so only the settings pages belong to 11
File explorer tweaks belongs to explorer patcher and looks like win-7 old setup with preview pane on the top right which I always hated having to switch to view on 10 and 11 just to see preview pane option it's just silly senseless ms bs :kookoo:

Tomorrow · Feb 24, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah this is all about MS account users security bs because defender can't stop stupid people from getting hit with ransomware by clicking on everything in emails/.. they don't know

But tpm is just one of five requirements for 11
TPM
CPU
GPT
UEFI only boot
Secure boot

I leap frog over all this nonsense requirements

Well to be fair GPT partitions and UEFI Boot are reasonable as GPT is required for partitions larger than 2TB and motherboards from the last ~10 years should all support UEFI boot (my 2011 P67 board supported that already).

But i agree that forcing to use TPM, Secure Boot and most of all Zen+/Kaby Lake or newer CPU is just plain dumb and only hurts adoption.

trsttte · Feb 24, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah this is all about MS account users security bs because defender can't stop stupid people from getting hit with ransomware by clicking on everything in emails/.. they don't know

But tpm is just one of five requirements for 11
TPM
CPU
GPT
UEFI only boot
Secure boot

I leap frog over all this nonsense requirements

Ok, I'm gonna say something controversial, but why shouldn't they require that? The minimum requirements for Windows 11 were pretty shitty cutting a lot of recent-ish hardware but TPM, GPT, UEFI and even not-so-Secure Boot are basic modern technologies that should be common everywhere - gpt in particular is great, good riddance to mbr, same for uefi/bios. It's not like they discontinued Windows 10 or anything.

Now, this watermark and trying to close so called loopholes is dumb because anyone going that path probably knows what they're doing and are on their own, but I see the requirements for Windows 11 as meh, whatever. They're not forcing me to upgrade so what the hell do I care.

ThrashZone · Feb 24, 2023

Tomorrow said:
Well to be fair GPT partitions and UEFI Boot are reasonable as GPT is required for partitions larger than 2TB and motherboards from the last ~10 years should all support UEFI boot (my 2011 P67 board supported that already).

But i agree that forcing to use TPM, Secure Boot and most of all Zen+/Kaby Lake or newer CPU is just plain dumb and only hurts adoption.

Hi,
GPT on a storage drive is one thing
GPT on a os drive 500gb or less and all mine are 256gb is just unnecessary
UEFI only boot to I just don't need it and it's so called booger man defense features so I stick with legacy mbr.

Readlight · Feb 24, 2023

Yust get most popular Linux for your old hardware.

Tomorrow · Feb 24, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
GPT on a storage drive is one thing
GPT on a os drive 500gb or less and all mine are 256gb is just unnecessary
UEFI only boot to I just don't need it and it's so called booger man defense features so I stick with legacy mbr.

What advantages does MBR have against GPT?

There is literally zero point in using MBR for any disk regardless of it's size. And OS drive sizes have increased. Buying the fastest Gen4 or soon Gen5 for OS means getting 1TB M.2 drive since there are few 500GB options. And due to parallelism of SSD's these smaller capacities will also limit performance that is important on OS drive.

The second thing is that most people keep most of their stuff on the OS drive. Not everyone is like me who has separate drives for OS, Data, Games and Video and could live with a 256GB OS drive.

Holding on to MBR for some sort of sentimental or spite reason again MS is pointless imho.
Windows has supported GPT since Vista ~15 years ago. Time to get with the times and stop living in the past.
So unless you are using XP there is no reason to use MBR.

ThrashZone · Feb 24, 2023

Tomorrow said:
What advantages does MBR have against GPT?

There is literally zero point in using MBR for any disk regardless of it's size. And OS drive sizes have increased. Buying the fastest Gen4 or soon Gen5 for OS means getting 1TB M.2 drive since there are few 500GB options. And due to parallelism of SSD's these smaller capacities will also limit performance that is important on OS drive.

The second thing is that most people keep most of their stuff on the OS drive. Not everyone is like me who has separate drives for OS, Data, Games and Video and could live with a 256GB OS drive.

Holding on to MBR for some sort of sentimental or spite reason again MS is pointless imho.
Windows has supported GPT since Vista ~15 years ago. Time to get with the times and stop living in the past.
So unless you are using XP there is no reason to use MBR.

Hi,
No there is just no compelling reason for me to switch os's to these trivial gpt/ boot features
Frankly ms does this gpt crap to be able to create more useless system reserved partitions because ms is to stupid to make one large enough to reuse.
But what ever man if you get 1 perk for doing it good for you I don't have any 2tb or larger drives I stick with 1tb to limit loss if one dies.

trsttte · Feb 24, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
GPT on a storage drive is one thing
GPT on a os drive 500gb or less and all mine are 256gb is just unnecessary
UEFI only boot to I just don't need it and it's so called booger man defense features so I stick with legacy mbr.

GPT is not just about partition size, it also does error checks and keeps a backup of partition tables for example. It's just a better format all around. The same happens with UEFI, it's more than just pretty graphics and features, there's a lot of extra stuff in the background that improves on the basics provided by the old BIOS format

lemonadesoda · Feb 24, 2023

Lycanwolfen said:
Microsoft needs to be sued again from the government on their practices again like in 1998 when they got sued and had to change it so the USER of there system have a choice of what they want to do with their OS. 3rd parties need to get another lawsuit against them and win. Every Company today I see we are back to the same old BS of trying to take away control from the USER.

This will happen, but only after a lot of pain for us end users.

The EU will force MS to change their practices again. But they will wait so they can FINE them and make money, rather than prohibiting it now and forcing the correction now.

As for M$, this is all Psyops getting us ready for WinOS as a service, ie monthly billing just like MS Office 365.

trsttte · Feb 24, 2023

Lycanwolfen said:
Microsoft needs to be sued again from the government on their practices again like in 1998 when they got sued and had to change it so the USER of there system have a choice of what they want to do with their OS. 3rd parties need to get another lawsuit against them and win. Every Company today I see we are back to the same old BS of trying to take away control from the USER.

lemonadesoda said:
This will happen, but only after a lot of pain for us end users.

The EU will force MS to change their practices again. But they will wait so they can FINE them and make money, rather than prohibiting it now and forcing the correction now.

True but how will anyone be able to sue Microsoft for anything when Apple and Google are doing much worse in their respective corners? What aboutism is a terrible non-argument but is currently a very good shield for Microsoft

ThrashZone · Feb 24, 2023

trsttte said:
GPT is not just about partition size, it also does error checks and keeps a backup of partition tables for example. It's just a better format all around. The same happens with UEFI, it's more than just pretty graphics and features, there's a lot of extra stuff in the background that improves on the basics provided by the old BIOS format

Hi,
All my installs are upgrades that work perfectly well for years
So if something isn't broken I don't go out of my why to fix it
Even though mbr2gpt isn't rocket science it just adds nothing for my installs
Same goes for clean installing with all features which 2 builds are more than capable of doing only x99 has a tpm and cpu issue with 11 requirements.

Tomorrow · Feb 24, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
No there is just no compelling reason for me to switch os's to these trivial gpt/ boot features
Frankly ms does this gpt crap to be able to create more useless system reserved partitions because ms is to stupid to make one large enough to reuse.
But what ever man if you get 1 perk for doing it good for you I don't have any 2tb or larger drives I stick with 1tb to limit loss if one dies.

Unless you have XP there is no need to switch OS to use GPT.

ThrashZone · Feb 24, 2023

Tomorrow said:
Unless you have XP there is no need to switch OS to use GPT.

Hi,
There you go you make my point :laugh:

R-T-B · Feb 24, 2023

caroline! said:
TPM is one of the things that shouldn't exist in the world of computers.

Others are IME, PSP, Intel's firmware locks...

TPM gets boogeymanned too much. It's not remotely in the same category as the IME and PSP. It's just a hardware key storage device. It doesn't run code or anything like that at all.

Forcing users to use it however is pretty bad.

ThrashZone said:
All my installs are upgrades that work perfectly well for years
So if something isn't broken I don't go out of my why to fix it
Even though mbr2gpt isn't rocket science it just adds nothing for my installs

"Why do a backup of my HDD, it's working fine?"

It's not entirely the same, but it kind of has the same vibe, tbh.

Mussels · Feb 25, 2023

This has been around for a while and is one registry setting change to remove

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Installed Windows 11 with TPM Disabled? Expect an Ugly Watermark on the Desktop

Aquinus

Resident Wat-man

Chrispy_

TumbleGeorge

ThrashZone

Remove "System requirements not met" message on Desktop and Settings in Windows 11

Windows 11 on devices that don't meet minimum system requirements - Microsoft Support

Teiji

bearClaw5

Operandi

Dimitriman

ThrashZone

ZoneDymo

ThrashZone

Tomorrow

trsttte

ThrashZone

Readlight

Tomorrow

ThrashZone

trsttte

lemonadesoda

trsttte

ThrashZone

Tomorrow

ThrashZone

R-T-B

Mussels

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