Half-Life: Alyx Mod Enables Full Campaign Experience Sans VR

kanecvr · Apr 12, 2023

Sithaer said:
Theres an other issue with VR other than the cost, some ppl get kind of sick from it and feel uncomfortable while using it. 'including me, tried my friend's old Vive and I had to take it off after just a few mins'
I did get kinda pissed off about Alyx when it was announced that its VR only as HL 2 was my first ever day 1 bought game as a school kid and I was looking for something new ever since HL 2 and then I couldn't play it thanks to that decision.

some of us wear glasses... good luck using a VR headseat with glasses on.

Sithaer · Apr 12, 2023

kanecvr said:
and of us wear glasses... good luck using a VR headseat with glasses on.

I did not want to mention that cause I heard that new VR headsets are better suited for glasses users but in fact I wear glasses all the time since I have terrible eyes at this point. :oops:

'tho I can see close/read papers just fine but anything further than 1 meter is a blur to me..'

A Computer Guy · Apr 13, 2023

Sithaer said:
Theres an other issue with VR other than the cost, some ppl get kind of sick from it and feel uncomfortable while using it. 'including me, tried my friend's old Vive and I had to take it off after just a few mins'
I did get kinda pissed off about Alyx when it was announced that its VR only as HL 2 was my first ever day 1 bought game as a school kid and I was looking for something new ever since HL 2 and then I couldn't play it thanks to that decision.

I can't even watch 3D movies without getting really sick so I just stay away from the VR stuff too however I can be just fine on a sailing boat with monster waves just fine.

RandomWan · Apr 17, 2023

kanecvr said:
some of us wear glasses... good luck using a VR headseat with glasses on.

There's solutions for that.

Chrispy_ said:
You and I have differing opinions. Neither of us is right or wrong, but the games you just mentioned are a niche market with insignificantly small player numbers.

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Statistically-speaking, if you filled every single one of the 80,000 seats in an Olympic stadium with randomly-selected Steam players, there's a high probability that you'd get one single person who has logged any time with either of these two games.

Also, Onward seems to be getting review-bombed right now for being visually downgraded to run on lower-end hardware, truly helping VR's cause right there...

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You're making an objective statement about FPS not working in VR. It obviously works and there are thousands of players playing FPS titles in VR. If you don't like it, fine, but it works.

Chrispy_ · Apr 17, 2023

RandomWan said:
You're making an objective statement about FPS not working in VR. It obviously works and there are thousands of players playing FPS titles in VR. If you don't like it, fine, but it works.

It works for you, it doesn't work for me.
That's not objective, it's subjective - which is why I made it clear it's my subjective opinion, and not an objective fact. That's basic etiquette there that you shouldn't be pedantic over if you don't even understand the difference.

It's socially aceptable to disagree with someone's opinion; Everyone has different preferences and there is no right or wrong. It's not okay to say that someone's personal preference is wrong unless that preference violates laws/ethics/morals.

RandomWan · Apr 18, 2023

Chrispy_ said:
It works for you, it doesn't work for me.
That's not objective, it's subjective - which is why I made it clear it's my subjective opinion, and not an objective fact. That's basic etiquette there that you shouldn't be pedantic over if you don't even understand the difference.

It's socially aceptable to disagree with someone's opinion; Everyone has different preferences and there is no right or wrong. It's not okay to say that someone's personal preference is wrong unless that preference violates laws/ethics/morals.

Except you didn't highlight that it doesn't work for you personally. You made the definitive statement that FPS in VR doesn't work. That's not subjective.

Chrispy_ · Apr 18, 2023

RandomWan said:
Except you didn't highlight that it doesn't work for you personally. You made the definitive statement that FPS in VR doesn't work. That's not subjective.

Semantics. Clearly it's my opinion, I wrote it and all of my post is about my own experience.
Interpret it how you choose, I'm not going to get pedantic, upset, or offended over that.

If you think I was wrong to write my opinion as a statement rather than add a specific disclaimer that this was all "only my own opinion", then fine, I was wrong. Personally, I feel that if someone is saying something without citing sources, links, or evidence then it is only opinion by default. That, too, is only my opinion.

Regardless of how you interpret my original post, it changes nothing - not my opinion, nor the meaning/intent of it.

kanecvr · Apr 20, 2023

RandomWan said:
There's solutions for that.

None of them any good.

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