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Intel Raptor Lake Refresh Basic Specs Leaked

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The bottom two are i3. Anyway, why create a new name for an old product... I thought the fashion for rebrands was over.
 
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These look extremely interesting and appealing; AMD is in a lot of trouble! Intel is bringing 20 cores even to the entry level, unless AMD lowers prices massively and makes their 16 core chips something like $300 I don't see why anyone would go with AMD!

Intel is better in gaming, better in applications now due to bringing a shit ton of cores and they offer the cheaper motherboard entry!

I really hope AMD lowers prices, I wish for them to have a success and catch up to Intel even further, they are still way behind in market share even today, but they have to earn it! They can't do it on old glory, they need to increase their core counts, they need to lower prices and they need to make all of their next gen cpu's with x3D technology!
 
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These look extremely interesting and appealing; AMD is in a lot of trouble! Intel is bringing 20 cores even to the entry level, unless AMD lowers prices massively and makes their 16 core chips something like $300 I don't see why anyone would go with AMD!

Intel is better in gaming, better in applications now due to bringing a shit ton of cores and they offer the cheaper motherboard entry!

I really hope AMD lowers prices, I wish for them to have a success and catch up to Intel even further, they are still way behind in market share even today, but they have to earn it! They can't do it on old glory, they need to increase their core counts, they need to lower prices and they need to make all of their next gen cpu's with x3D technology!
Their interview with TPU suggests they recognise they have a platform cost problem although they see the solution as bringing lower spec boards to market instead of lowering their chipset costs on the better boards.

They do have CPUs coming targeting the budget market I expect based on that interview.

I also think they have made a step with iGPUS recognising it wasnt the best idea to restrict the SKUs that came with it in the existing GPU market.
 
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For the budget market the most significant here is the 4 core i3 13100/F replacement at last being a 6 core i5 14100/F.

At last a BCLK locked 12400 rebadge for maybe $25's cheaper price. Such innovative marketing value.
 
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At last a BCLK locked 12400 rebadge for maybe $25's cheaper price. Such innovative marketing value.
$25 in the sub-$150 price range is substantial. For someone on a tight budget, the difference can easily mean getting a higher tier product on another part of the system. It's hard to fault Intel for improving the value they offer in a part of the market that AMD has all but abandoned.
 
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Wow everything but the i9 is moving up a tier in spec. If they don't move up a tier in price as well AMD should be worried. Even the 14100 looks strong and should stick it to the 7600. Might be time to update my old 3700X to 14700/14600. I'll update my other PC's 5800X after Arrow Lake and Zen 5 are shipping.
 
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Intel is better in gaming, better in applications now due to bringing a shit ton of cores and they offer the cheaper motherboard entry!

What the hell?

AMD dominated both consumer and enterprise market at this point. What are you on? The 5800X3D alone makes mush of the highest end Intel right now while only consuming 1/3rd of a power budget.
 
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New i5 is going to be what 12900K was and all on the same chipset. Would have taken Intel at least a decade for that to happen without strong AMD.
 
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These look extremely interesting and appealing; AMD is in a lot of trouble! Intel is bringing 20 cores even to the entry level, unless AMD lowers prices massively and makes their 16 core chips something like $300 I don't see why anyone would go with AMD!

Intel is better in gaming, better in applications now due to bringing a shit ton of cores and they offer the cheaper motherboard entry!

I really hope AMD lowers prices, I wish for them to have a success and catch up to Intel even further, they are still way behind in market share even today, but they have to earn it! They can't do it on old glory, they need to increase their core counts, they need to lower prices and they need to make all of their next gen cpu's with x3D technology!

I think this isn't so much a try to one up AMD, but perhaps more of an effort to generate enthusiasm about upgrade at all - both AMD and Intel aren't selling well, as shown here in Intel Q1 revenue report:

"Intel reports largest quarterly loss in company history

Intel reported first-quarter results on Thursday that showed a staggering 133% annual reduction in earnings per share.
Global PC shipments dropped nearly 30% in the first quarter, according to an estimate from market tracker IDC, as the entire industry is mired in a slump.

Intel's Client Computing group, which includes the chips that power the majority of desktop and laptop Windows PCs, reported $5.8 billion in revenue, down 38% on an annual basis."
 
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Intel's Client Computing group, which includes the chips that power the majority of desktop and laptop Windows PCs, reported $5.8 billion in revenue, down 38% on an annual basis."
This is quite correct but as this slide produced by Intel shows, there was still a profit of around $500 million

intel1q2023client03.png


AMD's equivalent to the CCG is the Client Segment. Like Intel there was a substantial drop in income, but unlike Intel there was a loss of around $170 million dollars on a revenue of $700 million.

amdq12023client03.png


The reason for this, and the difference in income between the two is because Intel continues to dominate the pre-built PC and Windows notebook/laptop market. The enthusiast desktop market is another matter.
 
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