Nintendo "Switch 2" Reportedly Showcased at Private Gamescom Event

[Deleted member 232130]

Yeah, OLED burn-in and dimming are not the same as they once were a few years ago. The tech has been improved upon. So if the NS2 does come with one, it'll be fine!

it'll be fine for maybe 3 years,than good bye full backlight (as it always happens on any oled screen).

 

[lexluthermiester]

it'll be fine for maybe 3 years,than good bye full backlight (as it always happens on any oled screen).

I have an OLED TV and it's 4 years old. It get's used a lot. There has been some dimming, but it's not as bad as you suggest. Additionally, the technology has improved greatly over the last few years.

So let's not over-react, eh?

 

[cvaldes]

use gamefly!!!! you can rent switch games super cheap 20 bucks a month, two out at a time, and they ship you your next game in que when tracking number shows you have sent back the game you currently have out, you keep each game as long as you like, just two out at a time, its such a great business model. we are lucky to have gamefly.

Lol, that's Netflix circa 2008.



Thanks for the tip, I might just try them out.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I'm mostly concerned with backwards compatibility If it has it, day 1 buy. If it doesnt, I'll wait 3-4 years and maybe pick one up on sale. My switch library is too big to walk away from.

Seriously with that? Can you possibly be more biased and lacking objectivity? Context is important, try it sometime..

It was pretty clearly either a joke or a sarcastic comment. calm down LMFAO. Nobody is gonna take away your switch.

Its sad they dont get enough flak for how poorly their exclusive titles run, the frame drops, pacing, and consistency are absolutely horrible on Switch.

So they're like every other game dev on planet earth these days?

They make a lot of great games, I own most of them and play them, but the performance is straight up embarrassing for some titles.

So you buy them anyway, why would they try harder to optimize?

 

[Bruno_O]

I have an OLED TV and it's 4 years old. It get's used a lot. There has been some dimming, but it's not as bad as you suggest. Additionally, the technology has improved greatly over the last few years.

So let's not over-react, eh?

RTINGS.com is doing a mega endurance test with OLEDs, FALD, MicroLED

OLEDs started showing burn ins / degradations after 2 months! The new white OLED from LG is better, yes, but also has issues.

Burn in is a part of OLED, it won't go away, that's why mini-LEDs and micro-LEDs screens are being developed. OLED's best use case is for watching video only, in a controlled light room, not for gaming nor PC use - not because they perform bad, but because PC/game use will accelerate and show burn ins much much sooner.

if you are happy with having that on a screen, good for you, but a lot of people aren't

>>>back to the topic, why tf they didn't release TOTK with the Switch 2? what a missed opportunity

 

[Deleted member 185088]

I hope the Switch 2's hardware is decent, I was very disappointed by the original switch, it was outdated when it launched.

I think PS4 GPU level, 8~10gb of memory and a better CPU are achievable. Resolution wise, 900p while in portable mode is good enough, and huge bump in frequencies coupled with DLSS to achieve fake 4k.

 

[Space Lynx]

OLEDs started showing burn ins / degradations after 2 months! The new white OLED from LG is better, yes, but also has issues.

the test is done in an extremely unrealistic way imo. most users vary in their content consumption.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It was pretty clearly either a joke or a sarcastic comment. calm down LMFAO. Nobody is gonna take away your switch.

That user frequently makes comments like that, and they're always serious. It's negativity that is very subjective and unnecessary.

RTINGS.com is doing a mega endurance test with OLEDs, FALD, MicroLED

OLEDs started showing burn ins / degradations after 2 months! The new white OLED from LG is better, yes, but also has issues.

You mean this test?;

Did you actually watch that video? Maybe you should. The problem is FAR more fine grained and you are making assumptions.

Burn in is a part of OLED, it won't go away, that's why mini-LEDs and micro-LEDs screens are being developed. OLED's best use case is for watching video only, in a controlled light room, not for gaming nor PC use - not because they perform bad, but because PC/game use will accelerate and show burn ins much much sooner.

if you are happy with having that on a screen, good for you, but a lot of people aren't

The OLED version of the Switch has been out for two years and I have yet to see any of them with burn-in or dimming issues. If Nintendo goes with OLED for the NS2, it'll be fine especially if they go with WOLED.

Again, let's not over-react.

>>>back to the topic

We're talking about the screen choice possibility for the Nintendo Switch 2, which is directly on topic.

 

[wolf]

DLSS could do wonders for a low power handheld, especially for docked mode. Really keen to see this and it could well be a day 1 buy if it ticks a few key boxes for me.

 

[Bruno_O]

That user frequently makes comments like that, and they're always serious. It's negativity that is very subjective and unnecessary.


You mean this test?;

Did you actually watch that video? Maybe you should. The problem is FAR more fine grained and you are making assumptions.


The OLED version of the Switch has been out for two years and I have yet to see any of them with burn-in or dimming issues. If Nintendo goes with OLED for the NS2, it'll be fine, especially if they go with WOLED.

Again, let's not over-react.


We're talking about the screen choice possibility for the Nintendo Switch 2, which is directly on topic.

yes I did and I have been following these tests for months

the cold hard fact is that OLED screens will have burn in, a gaming device where HUDs are static will accelerate that

if OLEDs were dirty cheap this could perhaps be overlooked, but paying thousands of dollars on an OLED TV and have it full of water marks in 2 years (like countless people report on TV forums, reddit) is unacceptable to a lot of people

it's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN you're getting burn ins

And the same applies to consoles / phones / laptops, if you intend on keeping them for long term. Now if you swap devices less than 2 years, there's a chance you won't see that.

>> the topic is Switch 2, not OLED technology and its pros/cons. Want to talk about battery chemistry now? The Switch has a battery too you know

 

[Deleted member 232130]

Everything is explained in this video.

 

[Wye]

Evolution of this:

It maybe happened.
It doesn't look possible.
It almost certainly didn't happened.
It didn't happened.
We have proof it didn't happened.
Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.
TechPowerUp: lets post it anyway.
Comments section: reactions to the new "Switch 2".

/facepalm

 

[colossusrageblack]

I have an OLED TV and it's 4 years old. It get's used a lot. There has been some dimming, but it's not as bad as you suggest. Additionally, the technology has improved greatly over the last few years.

So let's not over-react, eh?

Don't bother with these people. Only those who don't have OLED panels are the ones screaming about burn-in.

 

[HisDivineOrder]

Nintendo is the one that decides if I'll be buying the next gen Switch or not by deciding if they are supporting backward compatibility. If it can't play old Switch titles, I'll be skipping this. If it can play my physical titles I own, then I'll probably get it to replace my launch Switch.

If they choose poorly, then I'll just switch completely to my Steam Deck where games I buy will work gen to gen for-nearly-ever.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Don't bother with these people. Only those who don't have OLED panels are the ones screaming about burn-in.

While that's fair, it has been a problem for OLED screens in the early generations. And while some type will still have some degree of problems, those problems are getting less common and less pronounced. The R&D engineers at Nintendo not stupid. They will choose a type of screen for the next gen system that will last the user decades or more.

Nintendo is the one that decides if I'll be buying the next gen Switch or not by deciding if they are supporting backward compatibility.

They will. They would be overwhelmingly stupid not to.

 

[KrazyT]

Pffff, these OLED thing ...

I have a VITA Oled ans a LCD Switch ... honestly, can tell the difference ...

I'll go even further, i wonder if one can see difference between all these tech'

 

[lexluthermiester]

Pffff, these OLED thing ...

I have a VITA Oled ans a LCD Switch ... honestly, can tell the difference ...

I'll go even further, i wonder if one can see difference between all these tech'

In all honesty, I don't actually care much. A quality IPS panel would be excellent IMPO.

 

[rv8000]

I'm mostly concerned with backwards compatibility If it has it, day 1 buy. If it doesnt, I'll wait 3-4 years and maybe pick one up on sale. My switch library is too big to walk away from.

It was pretty clearly either a joke or a sarcastic comment. calm down LMFAO. Nobody is gonna take away your switch.


So they're like every other game dev on planet earth these days?

So you buy them anyway, why would they try harder to optimize?

PC games tend to get patched at the very least, the only games I have that run poorly are Breath of the Wild, Links Awakening, and PM Violet (game freak wont fix the memory leak so you end up with sub 20fps after a few minutes of gameplay).

Two were gifts. Any other titles I own run fine.

 

[Kapone33]

Of course. It's your money after all.

However you're not really saving any money unless you buy both. You'll pay what the going price is when the OLED unit is available.

If you sit out for a couple of years waiting for an OLED model, you'll just watch people play new titles on the new hardware. If you don't care about FOMO, that's not a problem. No one here cares if you play Mario Kart 11 when it comes out or three years after launch. Even Nintendo is happy to take your delayed dollars. They don't expect all of their hardware console sales to happen in the first month.

That said, the Switch console hardware isn't that expensive. In fact, today's Switch prices are very competitive with previous generations when adjusted for inflation:

The launch price of every major game console, from NES to Nintendo Switch

What did each game console cost when it launched? Here are prices for every major console released since NES, including how much they would cost with inflation.

www.digitaltrends.com

Nintendo doesn't make big margins on their consoles anyhow. They make fatter margins on software titles, peripherals, merch and other tie-ins.

Ocarina of Time was $59.99 MSRP at its 1998 launch. That's about $113 in today's dollars. So The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom at $70 MSRP (even with the $10 increase in MSRP) is about 38% cheaper. Factoring in inflation (which one must), gaming is cheaper today than it ever was.

And Nintendo is less about the hardware anyhow. It's really about platform exclusive software: Zelda, Mario et al.

(Disclaimer: I am the happy owner of a Switch OLED. I did not own the original LCD model.)

Was the latest Zelda a boxed Game or just a Digital Key? I do not have any ill will towards Nintemdo. My SNES kept me out of the Arcades. I now have one of those Grey market Drives that has just about everything that Nintendo has made and my Daughter has a blast playing Super Mario with that but I am enjoying Flashback on the 3DO. One of my nieces has the first Switch and she plays that all day with her,

Nintendo are great at Gaming but it is also why I am pumped about more Japanese Games as as good as Nintendo is they are not in my top 5 Japanese Game makers. You see the PS made Konami, Capcom, NAMCO, Squaresoft and ENIX made me forget all about Nintendo.

I will probably get one of these for my Daughter as well as Nintendo is a necessity when you are in Grade school.

While that's fair, it has been a problem for OLED screens in the early generations. And while some type will still have some degree of problems, those problems are getting less common and less pronounced. The R&D engineers at Nintendo not stupid. They will choose a type of screen for the next gen system that will last the user decades or more.


They will. They would be overwhelmingly stupid not to.

The only issue I have with OLED is power draw.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The only issue I have with OLED is power draw.

That can be a problem if not done properly. The current Switch OLED versions seems to be ok as battery life is about the same compared to the IPS version.

 

[Kapone33]

That can be a problem if not done properly. The current Switch OLED versions seems to be ok as battery life is about the same compared to the IPS version.

For me it was when I was deciding between the FV43U and the 49" that was OLED. I saw the Power draw was like 3 times for OLED vs MINI LED.