Graph Provides Valuable Insights to Ryzen User Upgrade Patterns Based on AMD Chipset Sales Share

[Kapone33]

Huh, the whole design of the ccx and how it limits certain core counts, high latency with dual ccx designs, and how screws up v-cache models with 2ccx, leading to asymmetric ccx and causes scheduling issues. This is why Zen 6 is total redesign and with new I/O chiplet will address all the shortcomings of Zen.

What it sounds like you are saying is that a 5800X is faster than a 5950X in feel. That is not true. The 5950X is the snappiest CPU you can buy on AM4.

 

[Geofrancis]

Huh, the whole design of the ccx and how it limits certain core counts, high latency with dual ccx designs, and how screws up v-cache models with 2ccx, leading to asymmetric ccx and causes scheduling issues. This is why Zen 6 is total redesign and with new I/O chiplet will address all the shortcomings of Zen.

your describing an issue that only effects the 7950x3d and 7900x3d even then its only in some applications. Even that situation is miles better than intel and its Ecores since worse case its going to perform like a non 3d chip.

 

[Avro Arrow]

What really puzzles me here is how low ASRock's sales numbers seem to be. My last two motherboards have both been ASRock (X370 Killer SLI, X570 Pro4) and I've been extremely impressed with them. Right now, the best value AM5 boards that I've looked at have all been ASRock. Their X670E PG Lightning would definitely get my dollar if I were to build an AM5 system today. Most people don't seem to realise that they're not really gaining anything by getting an AORUS, Tomahawk, Taichi (yes, I know that Taichi is ASRock) or Strix motherboard. The chipset is what makes a motherboard valuable, not the brand.

The ASUS ROG Strix B650-A Gaming Wifi and Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX Ice both cost $240.
The ASRock X670E PG Lightning costs $230.

Thanks, but I'll take the superior chipset for $10 less because that's going to give me a much richer feature set. Motherboards don't really contribute to system performance. They either work or they don't so consumers are only screwing themselves by being brand-wh0res.

 

[trparky]

@Avro Arrow, but you’re always going to pay more for an ITX board.

 

[Avro Arrow]

@Avro Arrow, but you’re always going to pay more for an ITX board.

@trparky Heh, you're right. I didn't notice that the AORUS was an ITX board. I'm at work when I do this and sometimes I rush faster than I should. It doesn't change the truth in what I was saying but thanks for pointing that out just the same. I've fixed it now.

Your avatar pic reminded me of a hilarious cellular storefront in China:

 

[trparky]

I wouldn't say that $220 is a bad price for a decent motherboard, it's when it gets to be $300 or more I start saying that things are getting crazy. I have the standard black version of the Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX and it has a good VRM assembly so that'll help with future chip support if I so choose to want to drop in a upgrade/replacement of my current 7700X. Plus, it comes with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth so you're going to pay for that.

I didn't mind paying a little more this time around I was specifically looking to buy a motherboard with onboard Bluetooth with a good external antenna since I use Bluetooth headphones exclusively and those tiny USB adapters weren't cutting it, as in if I stepped away from my computer the audio would start cutting in and out.