MSI Spatium M580 Liquid Frozr is an M.2 SSD with a Self Contained Liquid Cooling Loop

[btarunr]

MSI Spatium M580 Liquid Frozr is easily one of the most interesting SSDs we've come across in CES 2024. Picture this—an M.2-2280 SSD that has a self-contained liquid cooler, complete with a fan, radiator, a pump-block, and coolant channels. This is both cute and a little sad. M.2 SSDs were supposed to stay out of sight and be completely cable-free, like DIMMs. This isn't MSI's fault, they have to use the fastest controllers in the market, which are built on older 12 nm foundry nodes. PCI-Express 5.0 x4 is comparable bandwidth to PCI-Express 3.0 x16, and moving this kind of data is bound to generate heat for an SSD controller. Enough banter—the Spatium M580 uses the fastest Phison E26 Max14um controller, with Micron's fastest B58R 232-layer 3D NAND flash chips that deliver 2400 MT/s per flash channel.

The combination of Phison Max14um and B58R results in sequential transfer speeds beyond the 14 GB/s mark, which is where most PCIe Gen 5 x4 drives will end up accounting for the interface+protocol overhead. The theoretical max bandwidth of Gen 5 x4 is 16 GB/s. The drive comes in capacities of up to 4 TB. As for the cooler's design, the bare drive makes contact with a copper cold-plate, which has the block+reservoir, with a tiny pump. This sends coolant through a real aluminium heat-exchanger—this is probably the smallest radiator we've ever seen. The radiator is held up, a supporting structure has a tiny 20 mm lateral-flow fan, which blows air through the radiator. We can't wait to review this thing!



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[P4-630]

No thanks...

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
This is beyond dumb and a new class of wtf e-waste

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Hi,
This is beyond dumb and a new class of wtf e-waste

it was only a matter of time before this monstrosity was created.

 

[Hxx]

They can’t be serious with this . Msi it’s too early for april fools day

 

[Canned Noodles]

The miniature AIO itself is so cool, but I hate the fact that an SSD needs it

 

[Chrispy_]

I'm going to assume that this is a single-sample prototype made as a meme for the stupidity of PCIe Gen5 SSD controllers right now.

Given that almost nothing can even take advantage of Gen5 SSDs yet, it just adds to the ridiculousness of it all - especially when there are 2-year-old Gen4 controllers out there that can reach 7200MB/s without even requiring a heat spreader.

 

[Tartaros]

We need a motherboard that's is 3 E-ATX boards in U shape and stick this SSD in it alongside the prototype cinder block 4090 from a while back.

 

[maxx2575]

I love how stupid it looks

 

[Legacy-ZA]

I love how stupid it looks

I am willin to pay $1 million! What do you mean it looks stupid? Or that it's useless? How dare you.

 

[Tomgang]

Cool idea, but in practical use. Stupid. First the cooler is to high and that will limits its use in some builds.

Also with water cooling. You risk pump failure, leaks, overtime a degrading cooling capacity do to vaperation of cooling fluid and clog ups in the cooler head fins.

So i can live with a aircooler with a fan. But water cooling is to much. Im almost glad i am only on a PCIe gen 4 ssd cooling wise.

If PCIe gen 5 needs water cooling. Imagine when PCIe gen 6 or hell of it gen 7. Phase cooling or maybe even ln2 perhaps...

 

[Assimilator]

This makes me hate humanity more than I already do.

 

[Deleted member 237269]

This makes me hate humanity more than I already do.

https://www.techpowerup.com/317611/...embraces-7-nm-with-latest-crop-of-controllers
There is still hope

 

[Onasi]

This makes me hate humanity more than I already do.

Don’t worry, I am sure someone will still buy two to run in RAID 0 in order to get some theoretical best performance and will claim that this is totally useful and based.

 

[Canned Noodles]

Don’t worry, I am sure someone will still buy two to run in RAID 0 in order to get some theoretical best performance and will claim that this is totally useful and based.

Imagine 4+ of these side-by-side in a NAS.

 

[lexluthermiester]

No thanks...

Hi,
This is beyond dumb and a new class of wtf e-waste

While I agree, there are some SSD's that produce a fair amount of heat. For anything other than those drives, this is silly..

 

[Onasi]

While I agree, there are some SSD's that produce a fair amount of heat. For anything other than those drives, this is silly..

The solution is to make controllers that produce less heat, just as the newly shown ones by Phison seem to do. It is NOT to strap increasingly elaborate and ridiculous cooling systems on top of those heat producing SSDs to the point where the whole reason for M.2 as a form factor is null and void and you might as well make those SSDs U.2.
This is like putting a supercharged V8 into a compact car without doing anything to the suspension or drivetrain or anything else and expecting it to actually run reliably. It’s silly.

 

[P4-630]

While I agree, there are some SSD's that produce a fair amount of heat. For anything other than those drives, this is silly..

I would just buy a fast enough PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSD...

 

[lexluthermiester]

I would just buy a fast enough PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSD...

My SSD's are MLC based PCIe 3.0 Enterprise drives that "only" get 2200MBps. They don't get very warm, let alone hot enough to need the silliness above.

 

[P4-630]

Where does it end?.....

I mean how fast do we need it as consumer?...

 

[Assimilator]

Where does it end?.....

I mean how fast do we need it as consumer?...

Well the thing is, we don't. 4.0 SSDs are more than good enough, that's why 5.0 SSDs haven't taken off.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Well the thing is, we don't. 4.0 SSDs are more than good enough, that's why 5.0 SSDs haven't taken off.

Oh, let's be honest, 3.0 drives are more than good enough. Most people can not saturate the PCIe 3.0 bus with even 2 lanes, let alone 4 and let alone again PCIe 4.0 or 5.0. While the performance is real, the practical need for it isn't.

 

[Guwapo77]

This isn't bad at all when compared to some of the other crazy looking SSDs out there. If I had a motherboard that supported this, I would throw it in there; however, where does it go? My current SSD is under the GPU.

 

[TheDeeGee]

All that weight on the poor M.2 slot.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Hi,
This is beyond dumb and a new class of wtf e-waste

+1000

This deserves a triple faceplam