4090 Super or 4090 Ti?

[Toothless]

Like what? Never came across a single instance where the 2060 super beats 1080Ti unless you are talking about RT. and dont kid yourself, nobody uses dlss, no enthusiast or anybody that knows better at least. I own both cards and have tested them against each other many times.

Say you don't know people without saying so. This statement is entirely incorrect and you're just spreading misinformation.

 

[Deleted member 237813]

he just wants to be right even if hes double wrong. typical child.

here is the exact same happening as with the 1080ti and 2060. its the exact same situation. now look how the 6600 sometimes outperforms it by 50% while being just as fast on paper. dx 12 weakness of pascal. pascal is dead. and no you dont even need upscaling for what i said originally.

 

[mxthunder]

Wow really? now we are starting with name calling?
DLSS or not, the 2060 super is not faster than a 1080Ti.
That video is not using 1080Ti - they are using 1080 - and i dont see what 1080 non Ti vs 6600 has to do with 2060 super vs 1080Ti.
I get it. the newer architecture does better in some scenarios. that does not mean the card is overall faster than a pascal based card.

What enthusiast wants to use a technology that farts out fake frames full of artifacts? We go for higher end cards and throw raw HP at the problem, not cheater technology that looks like garbage.

 

[Deleted member 237813]

fake frames? now im fully convinced you have no clue about anything you say.

wake up call everything your gpu renders is fake. everything. raytracing while trying to simulate real life its no where near achieving it.

i also dont know what your video that you now posted has to do with anything. you simply said no one uses dlss. that sentence alone, reflect about it and come back again.

 

[Onasi]

What enthusiast wants to use a technology that farts out fake frames full of artifacts? We go for higher end cards and throw raw HP at the problem, not cheater technology that looks like garbage.

Okay, how about DLAA then? No enthusiast wants the best available AA solution either, I assume? Or what about RT and PT? Enthusiasts pay for higher end cards to max out games, right? How’s that 30 frames with RT gonna feel, good? No reason to use upscaling in such a case?

Honestly, throwing more performance at a problem is a terrible solution. It is acknowledged as terrible since, well, forever. The entire history of 3D graphics is dedicated to finding “cheats” for performance. It’s all a fake, upscaling and frame gen are just a new turn of the same wheel. If you are honestly considering only “muh real” frames to be worth your time, then I’m afraid that you’d have to be satisfied with older forward rendered games supersampled to 8K or some nonsense like that.

 

[cou60]

the rtx 2060 is not beating the 1080 ti,

the 1080 ti is on par with an Rtx 2070 super,

 

[Dragam1337]

Say you don't know people without saying so. This statement is entirely incorrect and you're just spreading misinformation.

Well he aint wrong that any high fidelity enthusiast wouldn't use dlss, unless absolutely necessary. I sure as hell wouldn't.

Okay, how about DLAA then? No enthusiast wants the best available AA solution either, I assume? Or what about RT and PT? Enthusiasts pay for higher end cards to max out games, right? How’s that 30 frames with RT gonna feel, good? No reason to use upscaling in such a case?

Honestly, throwing more performance at a problem is a terrible solution. It is acknowledged as terrible since, well, forever. The entire history of 3D graphics is dedicated to finding “cheats” for performance. It’s all a fake, upscaling and frame gen are just a new turn of the same wheel. If you are honestly considering only “muh real” frames to be worth your time, then I’m afraid that you’d have to be satisfied with older forward rendered games supersampled to 8K or some nonsense like that.

Dlaa often makes the image look completely wrong, highlighting stuff that shouldn't be highlighted etc.

The only case where i do like dlss is dsr 4x + dlss performance or better. That does result in a noticeable image upgrade over native.

 

[the54thvoid]

Wow.

I think you all should go back and read the opening post. Stop bickering about off-topic subjects.

No further warnings will be given.

 

[N/A]

The supply of 4090 is dwindling since last sept. It dissapeared with the ai related restrictions. never to fully recover. 4090 sup changes nothing 5% better perf Nvidia just discontinued it. 4090 is over and done for. Inflated prices for the richest.

 

[Deleted member 237813]

4090 readily available here. 12 models from just one shop.

 

[redeye]

I'm fed up with driver crashes on my 7900xtx and looking to either go 4080 Super or just go 4090.

Are there any rumors of a 4090 Ti or 4090 Super?

Will the 40 series Supers impact the price of normal retail 4090 at all? I see the best new price now as $1600 USD, which is 4090 MSRP.

really?. the 4090 is a the best GPU (gaming) you can pay for, it is certified as the fastest gpu you can buy for gaming. Nvidia NEVER reduces prices, the 4080super price reduction is a “ snowball chance in hell” kind of a event.



the best never gets a price reduction, (WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR, IS PAR FOR THE COURSE WITH THE FASTEST… sorry for the caps. AMD priced the 7900xtx at what it is because AMD has a margin of 45%, and Nvidia has a margin of 70%. the 4080super price makes the margon more like AMD’s it this specific item)

instead figure out why you hate the 7900xtx… is because of the FOMO of the DLSS and other Nvidia “features”.

i bought a ps4pro because i want to think i was “pro”. i will never be “pro”. (in any case, the PS5 is better, lol. and i have one) ps5 is more expensive than a ps4pro. (although the ps5pro will be the same price as the original price of the ps5… just like the ps4pro was to the ps4)

set the voltage on the 7900xtx to full, and if it is still crashing RMA it. sounds like you want the 7900xtx to be a 4090. and are expecting overclocks to make it what you want.

just spend the extra 1000 dollars
(a crashing 7900xtx does not have much resale value… 600 dollars.
i think you are overstating the “badness” of the 7900xtx, because you are not going to sell the 7900xtx for 600 dollars…

 

[Deleted member 237813]

if it is really the gpu that is crashing then its faulty. its that simple. if you sell that you are an asshole unless you say its damaged of course.

i dont know what people do so that they get crashes all da around then i see the pcs from a clients with pirated games, more programms that no one ever needs than i can count, multiple software that do the same and is then wondering why software conflicts.

if you want to be sure, reinstall windows and leave amd settings alone if its crashing the gpu is faulty.

Windows has a bad habit that it downloads drivers in the back ground before you install the amd driver. so download the amd driver, uninstall the existing installed amd driver turn off your pc, unplug your pc from the internet and the turn it on and install the amd drivers OFFLINE so windows cant put its legs beetween, then plug in back internet. voila

this is how i fixed a lot of amd issues from people if it really is a software issue or windows driver conflicts.

 

[AnotherReader]

it doesnt matter what you agree or not. and the 1080ti is a better overclocker because of the powerlimit on huge cards. plenty of new games where the 2060 smokes it. not to mention dlss and proper dx 12 support which is the reason. pascal is dead unless you play old games, turing does everything better.

It isn't just the power headroom; Turing Super SKUs were also clocked higher than Pascal so they had smaller gains from overclocking. In any case, some recent games bear out your point; Hogwarts from the Techspot review that I linked to in an earlier post shows the 2060 Super matching the 1080 Ti. It's still a far cry from beating the 1080 Ti though. Of course, Turing has a more modern feature set and perhaps in the future, the 2060 Super may outpace the 1080 Ti, but I don't think there's any game out there where it does that now.

 

[Deleted member 237813]

pascal, turing or ampere operate all in the same range. 2.1ghz being the limit on 98% of the cards. just lock ada to 2ghz you will be surprised . terrible gaming arch. just like intel did with their monolithic chips, much helps much. but the 4090 hit a freaking wall. will be interesting to see how they improve the performance on the 5090 if much at all. i dont expect more than lousy 30%.

plenty of games out there, watch the damn video that applies exactly to the 1080ti and 2060 too

 

[R-T-B]

Sure...

Let's see in 1 year, where you post timestamped pictures of running a test for burnin - it will 100% have it, even if you are too blind to notice it... they all get it eventually.

My 2019 B9 is still waiting for this to happen... hasn't done it to date.

I really think you are overblowing this. I could load up a perfect grey image right now and have no burn in spots apparent. And I've been using this documented on TPU for 5 years now...

Full brightness can be pretty murderous on an OLED

I've heard this but ironically its all I've ever ran and mine seems to be doing better than yours.

EDIT: Wait... this topic has nothing to do with OLEDs... where am I?

Wow.

I think you all should go back and read the opening post. Stop bickering about off-topic subjects.

No further warnings will be given.

I have no idea how I got drawn in here, sorry, but stopping. To go back to the original subject does the 4090 ti even exist or isn't that just a theoretical? If so, buy whats available is what I say.

 

[Deleted member 237813]

people are still concerned because of that bur in bs? lol its like with the nvidia adapter. you hear a few bad storeis and think its shit but you enver hear form the millions who have no issue at all and yes both sell millions of gpus i na quarter.( maybe not right now but still since its been the lowet since like ever no surpise with these prices most people care for value and its just not there in any class.....) they still sell at least a million in a quarter nvidia probably more.

the thing i wann say is you will hear a lot of negative voices because people complain about it but you will not hear all the people who have no issues at all because they are enjoying it . its called loud minority especially on the internet.

 

[the54thvoid]

Okay - I've locked the thread. As a warning to everyone involved, when a thread is created, it is to discuss that topic. While we allow things to meander a little, this thread was hijacked over and over with off-topic bullshit. I left a warning and still things went off topic. While some of you think you were having a laugh, keeping a thread steered away from the topic in the title isn't helpful to the community. Thread titles draw people to them, not the nonsense content held within.

For the same behaviour in future, expect warning points and reply bans.