AMD "Zen 5c" CCDs Made On More Advanced 3 nm Node Than "Zen 5"

[john_]

ust to chime in here as some can have very selective memory.

You ignore 3/4 of the post that doesn't suits you and you talk about selective memory.
Funny.

 

[chrcoluk]

You ignore 3/4 of the post that doesn't suits you and you talk about selective memory.
Funny.

I will be quite frank, and I dont say this stuff often.

I have read all your posts in this thread, and they are typed in a way as if you have a point to prove. You have been rude to multiple members in pursuit of that mission. Normally I dont give posters like you even a reply, and you wasnt even grateful for that.

What do you want from the discussion?

 

[john_]

I will be quite frank, and I dont say this stuff often.

I have read all your posts in this thread, and they are typed in a way as if you have a point to prove. You have been rude to multiple members in pursuit of that mission. Normally I dont give posters like you even a reply, and you wasnt even grateful for that.

Oh, now we try lies and baseless accusations in the form of a personal attack. It gets better I guess.

Are you going to keep doing that? Does it really work?
I mean, does it work to accuse the other person for what you are doing or what you are about to do? It is a standard practice by people who don't have arguments, but does it really work?

What do you want from the discussion?

You rush in here and start throwing insults. Again you use the same tactic. You ask the other person the question you should be answering.

 

[mkppo]

That is what I like to call them since they are not full Zen cores. Since they are not even real yet. I can call them whatever I want. You are again moving the goal posts though.

Not to mention, for many server workloads that actually need a bucket ton of cores and can scale across them, having two different ISA's like intel e/p core does is a major drawback. The Zen4c cores circumvents this issue altogether. Sure, with windows scheduler and a ton of e-cores the consumer side is better suited for this configuration and mostly works fine but server workloads are a different matter. Intel id also having pretty hard time cramming those P cores in large quantities, due to both power as well as area.

Also, the 4c cores are stupid small for their performance. Keep in mind that regular zen4 is already pretty small by modern high performance chip standards. To reduce that by close to 40% is pretty wild.

It makes sense for AMD to fab the 5c cores at a lower node. Since mobile designs are being manufactured on the smallest nodes, they're well suited for the power/frequency area where the c cores operate at.